Mrs RNP has been done again for speeding this morning - now up to 9 points. Including the two driving awareness courses completed.
I'm continuously telling her to slow down if she's driving but I'm banging my head against a brick wall.
She's a going at a million miles an hour type person and always busy with loads on the go which translates to her driving as well.
She's adamant she's a good driver and I'm Captain slow and overly cautious (0points) but the government clearly disagrees with her!
How do you change someone's mind/point of view when multiple points/awareness courses havnt even with the threat from the inevitable 12 month ban?
As a sticking plaster we are looking at phone GPS apps that will signify speed limit changes. Any other ideas? Training?
Get her a bike
Get her a 1981 Austin mini-Metro.
I tried my best to speed in mine. Never managed it.
As a sticking plaster we are looking at phone GPS apps that will signify speed limit changes.
Hint: there are handy reminders alongside every road. If she's not seeing them then what else is she missing?
How much has your insurance increased? Is there no financial incentive for her to moderate her behaviour? Will there be once she gets another three points - or has an accident that affects her ability to earn?
Unfortunately, other than refusing to get in a car with her driving if she continues to speed and / or refusing to allow your children to get in the car with her (if you have them) it's may just be a case of waiting until she gets banned / ends up in court / has a serious accident and finally wakes up to the fact.
Unfortunately some people just won't be told / accept that their driving isn't perfect as they are under the impression that they are indestructible and the best drivers ever until the inevitable happens. If a couple of speed awareness courses haven't changed her driving I doubt much else will as from what I understand they can be quite graphic.
Does she drive a Focus ST ?
Is she in the RAF?
9pts puts her into a fairly serious position in some ways - insurance premiums will go up I would have thought and one more ticket of any sort equals a ban. If she hasn't changed her behaviour yet then she won't until she is banned.
Refuse to allow the kids or yourself in the car with her driving? Just wait until she is banned then laugh at her as she has to get the bus? Warn the police about her so she does get caught again?
People generally don't change habits until they believe it's something they need to do
2speeding fines in her MX5, sold that and bought her a Volvo estate with the least powerful engine they do in it in an effort to slow her down- result 3speeding fines!
I think we are heading to the inevitable 12points/ban and loss of job.
I have the CoPilot satnav app on my phone, you can set it to give an audible alert at selected levels below, at or above the speed limit. I guess that or similar might help, but given that she's on 9 points already, possibly not.
Have you had an grown-up chat about the day-to-day consequences of her being banned from driving rather than just the vague 'it'll be a really bad thing'
Years ago, when I was a young, aggressive, hard-riding, motorcycle road tester, I spent a couple of years with 9 points on my licence. I got very good at not breaking the speed limit in stupid places mostly because I was acutely aware that being nicked would mean losing my job.
I wasn't bothered about the fines or the technicalities of breaking the law, but the likely consequences were an effective disincentive to getting done again. I guess that's not much help if she simply doesn't care about losing a serious amount of independence, being reliant on you to do all the driving etc, not to mention the insurance loading, but you could at least flag up what being banned means in a practical sense if you haven't already.
Mostly obvious I know.
<b>50cc moped. </b>
Is it a base model premium car, or something middle of the road, spec'd up to its eyeballs?
What if she kills a kid?
or has an accident that affects her ability to earn?
Or more importantly has an accident that ****s someone else’s life up...
I had to read the subject again as I first read it as Habitual spending wife and thought i might be able to contribute.
Should be three strikes and your out. Forget having a license for 5 years if you cant control your inability to stay legal.
What are the financial consequences to you/your family if she does lose her job? (I'm assuming from your statement that a driving licence is a requirement for said employment). Spell it out to her: no holidays; won't be able to afford the mortgage so will have to move to a cheaper house; that sort of thing. Buy her some driving lessons for her birthday - OK, maybe not 😐
Oh, nine points and two speed awareness courses means she's already been caught speeding five times.
no pudding?
time to call Jonv to the thread?
Is she speeding wilfully or obliviously?
I think we are heading to the inevitable 12points/ban and loss of job.
Don't tell her this, but if a ban would mean certain loss of job, that could fall under "unnecessary hardship" and she'll just get a mahoosive fine instead.
Let her loose the licence...
It will be your fault...
You will be expected to sort out the problem...
It will be your fault...
Ohh forgot to say it will be your fault...
I’d be firing up Word and getting her down the magistrates court to find out about her 2 year ban and massive fine...
I’m sure she’ll see the funny side eventually!
This is like one of those drink problems threads 🙁 . I'm not sure there is anything you can do to prevent it but rather just prepare to help them through the loss of job etc. It's crap really. The app might help but I woukdnt put money on it, it might just delay the inevitable. I would be using the app and also doing the driving at every possible opportunity just to put that day off
Yeah, just a little longer and she’ll get a ban no doubt. Better that she’s off the road anyway, she sounds like a proper tool.
someone called........
Still waiting to see what my heavy right footed spouse is in for. Unless she's not letting on however, this is her first.
Tough tits.
(someone had to say it)
I see no reason for speeding in any shape nor reason for.
Get her off the road if she can’t drive safely.. by the looks of it it will fairly soon.
My car has a function to limit the speed on it, yes you have to set it and change it as the limits change, but I quite like being able to slap in the limit (+x% if I'm feeling cheeky) and then not look at the speedo until the next limit change...
0 points on my license in a decade of driving so far...
Or more importantly has an accident that **** someone else’s life up…
I'd not disagree with the fact that's more important but it's unlikely to be a massive disincentive to a habitual speeder.
Tell her she will probably have to re-take her test (theory and practical) after her inevitable ban arrives.
Get her a driving test theory book, wrap it up nicely and give it to her on a special occasion in front of friends and family.
Or get yourself banned from driving - she may slow down if you are not availablle as fallback chauffeur!
Sell her car and tell her she can have another one when she learns to act like an adult. Until then it’s the bus, train or a shitty moped.
Throw yourself in front of her car. Your inevitable death will be a lesson about the dangers of excess speed.
Sobriety, that sounds like a stupid idea. Just how well are you paying attention to the road as you **** around with the limit settings? Badly I'd imagine. This also indicates a lack of awareness of what your doing if you cannot keep the car to a speed without help.
RNP, might she benefit from exploring her need for speed in a controlled environment? I.e. on track. Maybe that would help her get it out of her system.
Ah, thought this was about drugs. I'm out!
The weird thing about speeding is that it doesn't really get you anywhere quicker. Once you count in getting stuck behind other cars, junctions, traffic lights, stopping at the shops or motorway services, finding a parking place blah blah blah.. You're maybe home 20 seconds earlier?
Even on a clear, empty, non stop straight piece of road 60 miles long @ 60mph = 60 minutes
Go @ 70 (10 mph faster) and you arrive 8:30 earlier
80mph = 15 minutes earlier
And that's ideal conditions.... which never happen in real life.
So, you can save maybe 10 minutes or less for going 20 mph over the speed limit.
New patio time.....
Could you have the ECU in the Volvo tweaked to reduce the power output. Like remapping, but making it slower rather than faster.
Do it bit-by-bit over a few weeks so she won't notice.
I have always been a habitual speeder of the speed limit plus 10 mph ( outside of 30 / 40 limits) plus outright fast driving in appropriate places. I got 6 pts a couple of years ago. Now I no longer speed at all. I rely on using hire cars and 9pts stops you hiring
One interesting aspect of this is driving becomes a lot less stressful especially on the A9 - no longer searchging for overtakes and constantly being slowed by other vehicles - simply set the cruise control to the speed limit and cruise.
Perhaps yo could sell the idea of not speeding on these grounds? was the speeding in 30 limits or open roads -to me morally thats a huge difference. If it was in urban limits I would refuse to ever get in a car with her driving
9 points and two speed awareness courses means in the eyes of the court, when she inevitably kills someone, she'll probably end up in jail.
Take out a spark plug, less cylinders working the slower she'll go....... Simples
So it might be you returning from a ride, and the missus is going too fast and wipes you out round the corner from home ?
Let her get banned - one more she'll be in bother. She might just kill someone
This sounds terrible, but if she won’t be told then let her get banned. My BIL got a ticket a few years ago, from a fixed camera about half a mile away from his house, on a road he uses every single day.
then he got another, from a fixed camera, on a road he uses every single day.
then a third, you’ve guessed it, from a fixed camera, on a road he uses every single day.
luckily, his mother, who controls the purse strings, was able to point out the reality of getting on a bus to go to work and he appears to have slowed down.
so, you either need to tell her, or the government will.
at the very least, if she could calm it in town and past cameras, that would be a start.
best of luck, i sincerely hope you succeed.
@yourguitarhero - true. There's very little difference in normal driving conditions. Last Friday I had to go up to Staveley nr Kendal for a meeting. Heading up the A65 there was a lot of traffic including farm vehicles so in some places where the NSL applies I was doing 20mph. Skipton to Staveley took 1hr15. The drive back was virtually clear and I was at or over the NSL for most of the non-restricted sections. That journey took 1hr10. Five minutes difference yet if I hadn't noted the times and you'd asked me I'd have said the difference was nearer to 15mins.
She doesnt speed in built up areas which is kinda the annoying thing as she can do it - its more when the road almost encourages you to- ie non residential wide A roads, town bypasses, dual carriageways with lower limits etc. She knows the speed limits for the roads as theyve all been local roads she's been done on by the mobile vans each time but each one has been 1 or 2mph above the allowed limits.
Great with cyclists on the roads - plenty of patience and leaves a huge gap when overtaking them as she knows I commute by bike everyday.
Just need her to bloody slow down.
Hide her car keys for a week and under no circumstances let her have them or let her use your car.It will give her a taste of things to come if she doesn't change her ways.Or get someone to ring her at work and tell her your child has been hit by a speeding driver.
Get her a log-in for this place. The first time she comes on to whine about her bad luck getting pinged again will be a bit of a eye-opener.
'Disable' her car for a week or two before you get it 'fixed'. The realities of losing her precious freedom for an extended period might just wake her up to the consequences of a ban, even if she's too pig-headed, even after two speed awareness courses, to realise the danger she is to others.
obriety, that sounds like a stupid idea. Just how well are you paying attention to the road as you **** around with the limit settings? Badly I’d imagine. This also indicates a lack of awareness of what your doing if you cannot keep the car to a speed without help
They’re great. Work just the same as cruise control. An up down button on a stalk that you use to increase decrease the speed plus on/off. Glance at your speedo (as you should be doing regularly, hit the set button as your speed drops to the limit. Another tap when the limit goes up. Then you can focus on whats going on around you and not your speedo safe in the knowledge that you’re not driving above the limit.
I use cruise most of the time in 20 - 40 limits. If you need to be driving less than the limit a tap of the brake disengages, when conditions clear you just tap resume.
