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If it makes anyone feel better, I'm having to think a bit about this. That Eb kinda forces you to do something a little different. Quite a few options I think. Can't wait to hear what people are up to.
I have Ableton and Adobe CC (so have media converter). Wavs, MP3 and M4A are all fine. I did get the odd wav sourced from an apple product which was a pain though.
Got it into logic, so will have a play over the weekend, looking forward to it 🙂
Watched the Paul Davids vid. Wow, Chris Buck.
Yeah, the guy is incredible. In another life he would absolutely be a Clapton / Brian May character. He needs a band* and a stage though! Or perhaps Youtube is doing fine for him.
*I've heard Buck and Evans. They're not really my thing.
Had a couple of plays over the track now and getting there but it's not an 'easy' jam. The last STW Rock jam track I did didn't get a great response as a few struggled with the major key and it only modulated between B and A where the relative minor pentatonic worked easily over both.
Ended up with only 2 contributors (plus myself), linked below if interested. Credits to grievoustim, stratobiker, guitarhero in order of appearance. Appreciate it maybe just wasn't that great 😉
https://soundcloud.com/barry-dodds/stw-rock-jam-final
Excellent. And double excellent to stratobiker for slide and wah on there.
Can't seem to download it from SoundCloud anymore?
It downloaded for me directly off the link on the Soundcloud picture on this page, Bob
Thanks for that. I'll give it a play over the weekend. Don't think I've actually recorded any guitar for literally a decade, but I'll have a go...
Struggling but enjoying it. Going for a ride my exercise now via loop to Tesco and on my return I’ll let my fingers warm up and start putting stuff down on silicon.
Its really hard distilling it down to 16 bars, its like every note has to count 🙂
I am by no means a great player but I am thinking to myself that bits OK but not brilliant. Then I think is that bit a bit too similar to the other bit.
Its a lot of fun.
Production on backing track is nice. @AdamT, how did you record it?
Also listening to the last jam, I now feel quite intimidated 😀
It's recorded using a scarlet 2i4. I DI'd the guitar and bass straight into Ableton and use Guitar Rig for the guitar & bass effects. The drums are a simple pattern from Addictive drums. The keyboard is a standard instrument in Ableton too. I threw it in quickly with hardly any takes to be honest. I may tart it up a bit for the final version.
Does your 2i4 have pad on the inputs, both my guitars have pretty high gain humbuckers and I found even with the gain all the way down it would clip the input stage of the scarlet. I only have the 2i2 though.
Yep. Part of the reason I got the 2i4 is for the pad feature. I have an active bass, so wanted this feature in order to cope with that as an input
@AdamT can you expand on the need for the pad with an active bass? I got a steinberg interface at Xmas (Steinberg UR22 MkII Audio Interface), and when I’ve used it to record my active bass it sounds flat.
Some active basses have a pretty high output and wasn't sure if a non Pad input would be ok. In the end it would probably have been ok, but wanted the flexibility and other features too.
Thanks, I think I’ll exchange it for a Behringer model that has pad options too 👍
I have a Behringer UMC202HD, it was relatively cheap but has lots of features, including pad buttons for each input, and good pre-amps
@oldtennisshoes If its sounding flat(I am guessing you don't mean out of tune 🙂 ) it could be impedance matching. Make sure you have the input set to an instrument and not a microphone.
@AdamT how do you want us to send the stems to you?
Send stuff to my email is probably easiest.
adam AT titley DOT org.
Email sent with stem, let me know if you need it changed in any way.
Cheers
Bazzer
PS it sounds weird listening to it without the backing track 🙂
Right, so @Bazzer is in. How about the others get theirs in by say, Wednesday and I can whack it all together?
Will do.
So you just want the guitar soloed without the track and you'll just line it up? Will you fix all my dodgy timing too? 🙂
ooooh! Got any autotune as well? 🙂
(I'm assuming a stereo stem from the start of the first bar to the end of the solo will be OK. This is the first time I've ever done this and spent an informative 45 minutes learning about stems this morning. I'm putting a little delay on there as I tend to play against it but will not print any reverb to tape. Can I leave on a short echo tail of under half a second that you can fade or cut?).
I do have some auto tune and I can fix a bit of dodgy timing too. 😀. I'm trying to leave it mostly raw, but might do the odd fix-up (for cash).
Yes please to soloed pieces. Should just be a case of lining it up, adjust levels and add a bit of light compression & EQ
@eddiebaby, yes, you can leave an echo tail if you like. I'll pop the stems in on individual tracks so in theory they can overlap. If the take starts bang on the beat that's great, but I can easily crop a bit off the front if it's too long.
Edit: I just put my own take in now too. I figured I didn't want to be influenced by the other parts coming in. Who knew 16 bars would take so much thought.
I've realised that junior has all our recording kit up in Paris but I'm sure I'll find some way of recording it. Been skiing since Friday and got into a cold house so bopping around while noodling seemed a good idea. Would this fit with your ideas Adam? It's a mix of penta and notes borrowed from the chord sequence.
Edit: just seen your thing about not wanting to be influenced. DON4T WATCH MY VID IF YOU DON4T WANT TO BE INFLUENCED 🙂
Chill @Edukator I'd already done all of my bits. I might indulge myself a bass solo or breakdown! 👍
Just put my Line6 DT25 combos in the classifieds as I'm moving on soonish and won't have space for it alongside my other amp. A great amp and if you have a Line6 FX with the L6 Link system it is no brainer to have a valve poweramp that reconfigures automatically as you change presets.
The ad and a more of a description is here:
https://singletrackworld.com/classifieds/advert/line6-dt25-1x12-valve-combo/
Right, tune done. Hope I've recorded it right. I lay down (is the right muso term?) a messy, random, first take kind of thing and then I don't reckon I'll better it... 🙂
I'll get it emailed over!
One more go at mine in the morning and then I'm done too.
I've polished and rolled it in glitter but it is still (to quote Blackadder Goes Forth) "… a bit dungy."
Me too. I just plugged the headphone out on the Mustang amp into the computer and used the Windows recorder. This meant I couldn't hear the amp when playing which is a bit odd, it's hard to know how hard to hit the strings without hearing the amp. It sounds very clean, the tone not the playing, and it's horribly compressed, all of the dynamic range that's on the vid above has gone. There's the full 40s worth rather than the 30s on the vid, it took a bit more noodling to work out how to end it. Mine's the "supermarket music" bit.
I was going to say it would be interesting to hear how people recorded their takes, but I am a geek.
I used an Ibanez RG521 Genesis on the neck pickup coil tapped. Into a Line 6 Helix with the standard Country Chorus patch but with the gain on the amp turned down a bit. That was straight into logic pro X on macbook via USB so the helix was used as the audio interface. I did record a dry signal simultaneously too and played around with guitar rig 6 on that, but preferred the Helix sound.
I have re-recorded it with the same patch with a short 300ms delay added and I not sure which one I prefer. I might end up sending that to Adam 🙂
I should really have a go at recording one of my tube amps. The mics I've got in the house are my phone and a Shure voice mic, both of which saturate well before the tubes do. I'll have a go when Madame goes out with the mic on the opposite side of the room to the cab.
Had hoped to have a go last weekend but a large IKEA delivery put paid to that. Guess it's tonight or never, so will put it in Logic, cycle record a few takes, jam along and see what comes out. Will probably use my new HX Stomp into Apogee Element > Mac > Logic, etc.
Guitar > Tuner > MojoMojo > THR10ii > GarageBand on iPad Mini
I'll just leave this here:
I like the cartoon. It's pretty true! In the same was as I'm confused about being a roadie/mtber I'm also confused about guitarist/bassist. I guess if there's a good guitarist in the room I'm a bassist and vica versa. I might already have put a bit of a bass solo in the track already though, so I guess you found me out!? 😀
What would you recommend for someone who is a bit bass curious @AdamT, would not want to spend a fortune, but would want something that its actually an instrument and not a toy 🙂
After a bit of research I got an Ibanez sr305. I'm probably not the best person to ask though. I also got a 2nd hand Warwick rockbass streamer 5 string fretless which I absolutely love. I'm sure there are others who can contribute here.
Edit: the Ibanez appears to have gone up a bit since I got mine. Get something 2nd hand would be my suggestion
@AdamT I'm confused as to my roadie/guitarist status. I always think I'd be better off carrying amps than plugging them in...
Some musicians get worse treatment from Larsen and his copyists...
HAPPY SOUNDCHECK DAY!!!!! 12.1.21
A couple of things that came up on my feed whilst I'm putting off hitting the send button on my track.
Rabea is a great guitarist and I love his bluesier side. A nice live studio recording in one take with the band at the end of the summer last year.
And now a reminder that not ALL the late 60s output was epic
@bazzer - I got a Cort PJ bass, which played great and sounded good too. Something like this: https://rguitars.co.uk/products/cort-action-bass-pj-open-pore-walnut
It was only my natural upgrade fever that saw me get a used Warwick Corvette, but the Cort was a great bass for a curious guitarist/basserist. Note that a Jazz style bass will have a skinny nut that won't feel too alien to a guitarist, and a Precision is a nice baseball bat thickness. I now prefer the latter, though the Jazz is a great bass too.
Anyway, have a look at the Corts before you get all fancy...
Ha! I think Chipps only sent me 8 bars (once through the chords @chipps?) So I decided to funk around and chop it all up for the second run through. I love messing around with this stuff. Hope you approve Chipps?
