Forum search & shortcuts

God only knows
 

[Closed] God only knows

Posts: 0
Free Member
 

do you think it's better than the original?

No, not even near. It's a rare cover version that is better than the original


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 2:20 pm
Posts: 293
Free Member
 

British Broadcorpsing Castration

WTF are you on about this time?


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 2:25 pm
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

It's just noise.
🙂

It really doesn't matter.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 3:11 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Not sure what the "thing is" there... They've both been shat all over

A day spent on heroin.

WTF are you on about this time?

Quoting Clive James.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 3:19 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 3:26 pm
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]A day spent on heroin.[/i]

Ah. That explains your post.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 3:30 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

What you on about?


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 3:34 pm
Posts: 12
Free Member
 

Maybe there's a place for getting old great songs on TV like this so that younger people hear them

But there's always music from the baby boomers on TV. Couple that with other officially sanctioned blandness, most kids are plenty exposed to the acceptable canon of "old" music.

Now, there's no denying the simple beauty of the original God Only Knows, but that was absolutely execrable.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 3:54 pm
Posts: 30656
Free Member
 

Just watched it.

Seemed a bit of a backslapathon, but has Dave Grohl in it, so gets a pass.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 4:07 pm
Posts: 6
Free Member
 

Difficult to get upset about.

Ageing people grumbling about how everything from the 1960s is unsurpassable is one of the most depressing things about today.

🙂


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 4:23 pm
Posts: 2944
Free Member
 

You mean stuff like this? (I am only 32 by the way)

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 4:25 pm
Posts: 5182
Free Member
 

Ageing people grumbling about how everything from the 1960s is unsurpassable is one of the most depressing things about today.

Nonsense, can't stand most sixties music, but will appreciate music with musical merit from whatever era. Even if there is true raw passion in it and no musicianship I'll admire it. Especially that! Yet this self-promoting circle-jerk of bland shite actually makes 60s poppy shit sound shittier for having inspired it! Can't knock them for raising worthy cash along with their look-at-me meters though. GrrrAARGH! I thought I liked Paloma Faith. Having word with self.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 7:53 pm
Posts: 9242
Full Member
 

Mr Woppit - Member
This other thing is just a weepy bit of nonsense based on a ridiculous premise by a writer of pretty little pop songs.

And this is where you are totally wrong!

Pretty pop songs being incredibly hard to write and Brian having a huge amount more musical talent than Lou Reed - who incidentally though I also still think amazing either with or without the Velvet Underground. Brian Wilson was a musical genius with an ear and pen for harmony and melody which is pretty much unmatched in popular music. Who cares if the core premise of the song is naive and gauche. It is still an absolute masterpiece.


 
Posted : 08/10/2014 9:39 pm
Posts: 66129
Full Member
 

Quite liked it. Don't hate it anyway. Not an improvement on the original but then I got the original scratched into my soul a long time ago so I'm ok with other things being less brilliant, you know? And I didn't know David Coulthard can play violin!

But yeah, it kind of falls apart completely for a moment when Brian May turns up, and too many of the artists only get to say "God Only Knows". Poor ol Jake Bugg just gets La La La. Perfect Day worked better because everyone got something to get their teeth into. Dave Grohl might as well have stayed in bed. Maybe just not the right choice of song for this sort of thing.

Some good individual performances though, interesting the ones that are actually recognisable.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 12:31 am
Posts: 34016
Full Member
 

Northwind - Member
Quite liked it. Don't hate it anyway. Not an improvement on the original but then I got the original scratched into my soul a long time ago so I'm ok with other things being less brilliant, you know? And I didn't know David Coulthard can play violin!

But yeah, it kind of falls apart completely for a moment when Brian May turns up, and too many of the artists only get to say "God Only Knows". Poor ol Jake Bugg just gets La La La. Perfect Day worked better because everyone got something to get their teeth into. Dave Grohl might as well have stayed in bed. Maybe just not the right choice of song for this sort of thing.

Some good individual performances though, interesting the ones that are actually recognisable.


Pretty much my feelings, really. I think there's a bit of 'too many cooks' going on, sadly. May's guitar can be too intrusive, it may have been better to have a more sympathetic guitarist, like Knopfler, who has done some lovely soundtrack work, and the bint dangling from a balloon near the end was a bit squawky.
Loved the trumpet bit by the girl in the cage, nice touch, that.
Nice to see a representative from 6Music sitting on the edge of a balcony as well, not sure if she was actually singing, although she can.
I was actually watching it on my telly while writing this, rather than my pad, so got a better view, and sound, and I don't mind it at all, really; there are far worse covers out there by far.
And the original song is one of the most perfect pop songs ever written, despite what some on here might like to think.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 1:13 am
 10
Posts: 1506
Full Member
 

Maybe just not the right choice of song for this sort of thing

I think this, it's a passable homage but ultimately feels a little soulless.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 1:51 am
Posts: 3193
Free Member
 

Music buy committee.

Although, as per Jamie:

has Dave Grohl in it, so gets a pass

[img] [/img]

I am unable to criticise Sir Dave of Grohl


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 4:22 am
Posts: 45
Free Member
 

So what's more fun/better? Newly written songs, such as Do They Know It's Christmas?, or covers like this? Perfect Day was quite fun I thought.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:12 am
 MSP
Posts: 15842
Free Member
Topic starter
 

So what's more fun/better?

Nothing wrong with the song, just a completely crap composition that completely misses the soul of the song.

But they could have been a bit more original, instead of just trawling the 60's why not something by the Jam or Nirvana or a hundred great groups that came after the 60's. They have done the 60's, now do something else, and something that the performers understand at least musically, on perfect day 90% of the performers seemed to get the song on this they are just trying to show their "talent"and ****ing up the overall effect.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:20 am
Posts: 28593
Free Member
 

Having taken another look at Perfect Day, I notice it had some bloody awful warbling by Lesley Garrett on it, plus Bono, obviously, so I'm mystified why I liked it at the time.

Perhaps I'm just older and grumpier now.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:24 am
 MSP
Posts: 15842
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Yeah, the Lesley Garrett was the low point, but this time round it's a collection of Lesley Garrett's with very few of the better balanced performances.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:29 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

awful warbling by Lesley Garrett

I'm no hater of opera, but God Only Knows why people insist on opera singers singing on pop records. It's worked once and once only


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:29 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

The title of the piece is, of course, a notable oxymoron.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:29 am
Posts: 66129
Full Member
 

MSP - Member

But they could have been a bit more original, instead of just trawling the 60's why not something by the Jam or Nirvana

I'm not sure that word means what you think it means 😆


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:00 am
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

mudshark - Member

So what's more fun/better?

'Better' doesn't apply to music.
It's just noise, you either like it or you don't.

Your taste doesn't make you a better person.

martinhutch - Member

Having taken another look at Perfect Day, I notice it had some bloody awful warbling by Lesley Garrett on it, plus Bono, obviously, so I'm mystified why I liked it at the time.

Perhaps you weren't as much of a snob back then?
😀


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:08 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]Your taste doesn't make you a better person.[/i]

You try so hard to be un-snobbish! In your heart you know the BBC things are piles of steaming excrement 😉


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:13 am
Posts: 28593
Free Member
 

That's true. Contact with the STW massive over time has increased my feelings of superiority. 🙂


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:15 am
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

DezB - Member

You try so hard to be un-snobbish!

Just let it go Dez, free your mind and musical tranquility will follow.
🙂

If you need to get to a Music Snobs Anonymous meeting, just let me know.
I take my responsibilities as a sponsor very seriously. 😀


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:20 am
 MSP
Posts: 15842
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I'm not sure that word means what you think it means

I'm sure you don't understand context.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:20 am
Posts: 13291
Free Member
 

I liked some of it and TBH I am not that bothered if it works or doesn't work as a complete song/cover.
A long time ago Yello brought out an album ([url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_%28Yello_album%29 ]One Second[/url])that turned me on to the notion of small perfect sounds. How many times do you hear a perfect intro ,then the rest of the song/tune just doesn't deliver ,or the part of it doesn't quite work and almost spoils the whole thing ?
For me,those little perfect moments of sound are fantastic,even if they are trapped in something bland.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:33 am
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

Couldn't agree more.

I liked the Perfect Day cover for all the litte touches in it, the timing changes, vocal contrasts etc.
And the subversion of the original delighted me, as it annoyed the snobs.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:41 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]Just let it go Dez, free your mind and musical tranquility will follow.[/i]

I just can't. I have to exercise my right to be offended!


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:41 am
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

DezB - Member

I just can't. I have to exercise my right to be offended!

I had it bad.
No synths, no drum machines, no suits etc.
I was frothing at each fresh platitude spouted by the NME, angry at the ignorance of others, stifled by the rules I'd imposed on myself.

Then I realised that I was never going to get laid at that rate, 'cos chicks think snobs are sad, so wisened up sharpish.
🙂
The last 30 years have been a lot easier than the first 15.

Alternatively, imagine a whiny teenager sat at the dinner table seething with injustice at the indignity of being served fish.
Fish that his loving parents have paid for.

That's you that is.
😀


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:54 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

I love fish


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:57 am
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

ALL fish?

😀

I do miss it now and then.
When drunk I can still sometimes be coaxed into a lusty rendition of 'See I TOLD you Oasis were shite at the time'.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 11:02 am
Posts: 45
Free Member
 

Nah, just the fingers


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 11:05 am
Posts: 5759
Full Member
 

Just saw this - I thought the BBC version of Perfect Day was bland & soulless, this version of God Only Knows however has upped the blandness, removed more soul & then massively overproduced so they've managed to remove any uniqueness or individuality of any of the performers involved.

It's the musical equivalent of a Ford Focus.


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 9:15 pm
Posts: 7
Free Member
 

To be fair, trying to cover a Beach Boys song and come out of it looking better than the original is not a sensible thing to try and achieve - you're going to lose...

I love the original but this was too bland - everyone just repeated the same line. Not sure why Dave Grohl felt the need to clench his fist for emotional effect?


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:44 pm
Posts: 66129
Full Member
 

brooess - Member

Not sure why Dave Grohl felt the need to clench his fist for emotional effect?

I think that was him realising he'd wasted an entire day just to say "God only knows". Next scene was him punching the director


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 10:54 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

The original is brilliant .....

This version is truly dreadful......


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 11:01 pm
Posts: 5559
Free Member
 

Your taste doesn't make you a better person

It is your absence of it that makes me the better person


 
Posted : 09/10/2014 11:04 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I don't particularly like this version or the original.

Your taste doesn't make you a better person

It is your absence of it that makes me the better person

I do like that though :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 1:20 am
Posts: 1014
Free Member
 

The original is truly sublime, a genius at his peak.

This version could never, ever match that original, singular point in time. I don't hate it, but wouldn't be upset if I never hear it again...

Can't help but think its a bit of a waste of the TV licence payers money... 😉

As for perfect day, that was much worse. I always thought the BBC failed to understand the songs original meaning (as woppit pointed out, spending the day on smack).

As for Brian May having vastly more musical talent than Lou Reed, away and shite. Lou's guitar playing (with the velvets any ways) is way more original than Brian's. I can listen to Lou's 'subway' sound all day, Brian has me rapidly searching for the off switch. But then I'm a fan of minimalist (and repetitive) music.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 6:20 am
Posts: 293
Free Member
 

What did Jake Bugg actualy do? 😆

The way some were frothing on here I thought it was going to be a true car crash but it is just what you expect from the Beeb now, safe and a bit dull. Lavish production of not much at all.

As has been said daft song to try and cover as the original was so brilliant, good to see Brian Wilson is still functioning.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 7:39 am
Posts: 45
Free Member
 

According to the Independent an Iron Maiden track was planned, now that would have interested me.

The original concept was to produce an orchestral version of Iron Maiden’s 'Phantom of the Opera', a seven-minute epic from the heavy metal band’s self-titled 1980 album.

Somehow it’s “Haunt me, you taunt me, you torture me back at your lair” lyric did not exactly lend itself to Jamie Cullum’s croon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/how-pharrell-williams-won-pole-position-on-bbcs-god-only-knows-allstar-video-9782844.html


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:08 am
Page 2 / 3