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I think 'we're' considering holding America's coat again while they **** around a bit in a desert
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/uk-military-iran-attack-nuclear
Idiots the lot of them.....
sighhhh
why is it that we seem to have been at war pretty much since i can remember, yet the only time the uk has actually been attacked was when 4 lads from leeds/bradford blew themselves up on the tube, i think we should nuke the norh east
Excellent, we have far too much cash sloshing about in the public purse, best blow it on something, lets go bombing!!!!
firstly Leeds isnt North East - its the midlands.
Dont they say war is profitable? I think thats your answer.
possible explanation right here....
Mates who have served in Iraq and the 'stan seem to think it's only a matter of time.
Although as I found out from the BBC that Bin Laden had been topped before they were told out there, their info may not be that reliable.
No, Bradford is beautiful!
Leeds is ok but not as nice as Bradford.
I truly hope that Cameron has the balls to tell the US to go **** themselves. I doubt he has, but I shall continue to hope.
Dear god no! it's a bit like picking a fight with the smallest bloke in the bar (or loosley affiliated group of farmers in the desert) for an easy target, getting you're arse kicked then going back for seconds off his much bigger nuclear armed brother!
Its not going to go off in Iran. They're armed up to the teeth. Its one thing to invade a country who you know for damn sure doesn't have WMD (though you pretend they do). Its another thing altogether going after one that definitely does.
If America goes near Iran, I'm-a-dinner-jacket will immediately level Tel Aviv, The Israelis will promptly nuke Tehran in retaliation, and then the whole middle east will disappear in an enormous mushroom cloud.
Actually.... I was going to conclude that the Americans wouldn't contemplate this, but thinking about it, it'd make the planet a **** of a lot safer for the rest of us!
Leeds is ok but not as nice as Bradford.
Praise doesn't come much higher than that 😉
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Its another thing altogether going after one that definitely does.
Yep. You just nuke it.
We might not have to.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8864696/Benjamin-Netanyahu-seeks-cabinet-support-for-Israeli-strike-on-Iran.html
Good God. Let's pray that there are some in the Israeli government who aren't homicidal maniacs. 😯
I was in Bradford at the weekend. It's a shole with some nice arcitecture. I saw a young asian man wearing a t-shirt saying "we have your country, you can keep your queen"
Leeds isn't much better.
I know one thing for sure, it wasn't in the midlands
Hasnt Bradford already been bombed? Looks that way.
and then the whole middle east will disappear in an enormous mushroom cloud.
That would solve hell of a lot of the worlds current problems
They obviously don't want to play ball!! Israel also seemingly has a palm already hovering over the launch button! I can't see any "nice" outcome to this whatsoever because im sure if the us send a single missile onto Iranian soil they're gonna react big time, and with all they supposedly have or haven't got!!!
I saw a young asian man wearing a t-shirt saying "we have your country, you can keep your queen"
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Excellent. Where can I get such a wondrous garment?
That would solve hell of a lot of the worlds current problems
Can't help thinking that as Britain and the USA seem to have caused most of the upheaval and war going on atm, not to mention causing the deaths of possibly millions as a result of their aggressive actions against other nations, that nuking these nations would praps solve an awful lot more problems...
If nukes start getting thrown around in the middle east all our lives will go down hill very quickly, its ridiculous to think that there would be no massive world wide impact.
not to mention causing the deaths of possibly millions as a result of their aggressive actions against other nations,
certainly millions since 1990. No doubt at all
If nukes start getting thrown around in the middle east all our lives will go down hill very quickly, its ridiculous to think that there would be no massive world wide impact.
It would be a side-show to the euro collapse.
How do you figure that?certainly millions since 1990. No doubt at all
From the realistic figures produced by respected international organisations.
Millions have died in Iraq alone - thats in the two wars and the period of sanctions.
Then there is the many who have died in Afghanistan and now libya
How do you figure that?
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/iraq ]
[/url]Finally, they point out that more recent data confirm their findings and even suggest a higher figure. The British polling firm Opinion Research Business (ORB) asked 1,720 Iraqi adults last summer if they had lost family members by violence since 2003; 16% had lost one, and 5% two. Using the 2005 census total of 4,050,597 households in Iraq, this suggests 1,220,580 deaths since the invasion. Accounting for a standard margin of error, ORB says, "We believe the range is a [b]minimum of 733,158 to a maximum of 1,446,063[/b]."
Then you've got stuff like deformities in children born in Iraq as a consequence of the use of depleted uranium tipped missiles and stuff, not to mention the amount of serious injuries and permanent disabilities.
Of course it must also be remembered that hundreds of thousands if not more died as a result of violent action during Saddam's regime, but nowhere near on the same scale, not that it makes it any better.
Making a large part the worlds oil fields radioactive and unusable for god knows how make years would solve the worlds problems how exactly?That would solve hell of a lot of the worlds current problems
No one is going to nuke anyone, and neither will they go to war with Iran imo. 1 they can't afford it, and 2 Iran will fight back.
In fairness, there's only been one war, it's just split up into 2 parts for easy viewing purposes. Sanctions(A Blockade) is an act of war.thats in the two wars and the period of sanctions.
Elf - you forget as well all the victims of disease and those who led shorter lives as a result of the destruction of water supplies and hospitals. child mortality is tripled, life expectancy decreased.
The lancet study found 1.5 million extra deaths up to 1990 -2004 and the child mortality and life expectancy is still much worse than it was under Saddam
bloody septic tanks they cant go s month without startin on someone who the **** is the only country to use atomic bombs "oh the americans, who decides who can cant have bombs the americans they are the worst most hypocrytical country out there
You will need to deduct how many people would have lost lives to violence had the US not invaded.
I should think with several million people turning up to protest against invasion in London (of which I would be one) it would be fairly easy to, uh, implement a "regime change" here in the UK. They couldn't shoot everyone.
Iran must be full of nutters. We should avoid talking to them lest we become mayd as well
God wants us to nuke them, Israel said so.
Thankfully we've got ways of bringing about regime change in the UK that don't involve anyone getting shot.I should think with several million people turning up to protest against invasion in London (of which I would be one) it would be fairly easy to, uh, implement a "regime change" here in the UK. They couldn't shoot everyone.
Thankfully we've got ways of bringing about regime change in the UK that don't involve anyone getting shot.
Oh yes, the good old democratic process! Thank **** for that, gives me a semi-lob on whenever I think about it.
We should avoid talking to them lest we become mayd as well
[i]Mayd[/i].
pfft, the pathetic posturing of mahmoud deserves a slap
just as soon as the chinese have bailed europe out of its financial mess, the yanks will be sat on their own, twiddling their thumbs and wondering what to do so they look big again.
the only fly in the ointment might be russia, i wouldnt like to guess where they are on this
Making a large part the worlds oil fields radioactive and unusable for god knows how make years would solve the worlds problems how exactly?
How long were Hiroshima and Nagasaki unusable?
Again its all about oil.
2006 Iran created the kish bourse agreement, In doing this they refused to sell oil to any country that wanted to pay in U.s Dollars
By December 2007, Iran reported to have converted all of its oil export payments to non-dollar currencies.
Poor little America is missing out big time, and feels the need to take what it sees as theirs.
The similarities to the gulf war are frightening,
11 mths before the gulf invasion, France, Germany Italy And Greece all agreed to pay MR Hussain in Euro,s
again America could not let this happen. (Que. invasion under the Vail of weapons mass destruction )
They may only be 2 known nuclear Missiles in Iran, but you can bet that if the USA invade or conduct air strikes then at least 1 is aimed at Israel.
Israel on the other hand have many missiles, they will have made this very clear to America.
Im sure if Israel feels its going to be taken out by mr dinnerjaket, they may just pop a few over the pond for good measures. ( or at least let it slip in a memo )
America wants irans oil and large reserves of cash sitting around the world. Like in Iraq they'll rape the economy under the pretense of bringing democracy and keeping order in the world. They can't fix their own economy so they might as well steal someone else's. Obama is such a ****ing disappointment, the only change he's brought is in skin color with the same bullshit underneath it.
Now Iran isn't without it's problems but ffs the average age of population is 26. the previous generation was taken out by Americas last foray, curtesy of the proxy war they fought using a certain Mr S Hussain.
Time will fix everything, Iran's leaders won't live forever and once all these kids who like jeans, pop music and iPods grow up things are bound to change.
A war will certainly make things worse. Enough of our soldiers have died for nothing as it is.
Oil oil oil, Iran's power will toil.
America waging war shocker, and britain being dragged in again by our elected politicians..
if you wanna look at it like that, everyone dies for nothing really
why is it that we seem to have been at war pretty much since i can remember, yet the only time the uk has actually been attacked was when 4 lads from leeds/bradford blew themselves up on the tube
Does that not rather suggest the wars have been succesful then?
I regard it as my government's duty to protect me. If taking out the nuclear weapons of a rogue state is the way to do it, then fair enough. I don't have a problem with that.
Does that not rather suggest the wars have been succesful then?
No, I think it much rather suggests that the whole 'threat of terrorism' thing was concocted in order provide a convenient excuse to erode civil liberties and the ability of citizens to try to act against their government, possibly.
Oh look, that's what's happened. How strange....
If taking out the nuclear weapons of a rogue state is the way to do it, then fair enough. I don't have a problem with that.
Just like they took all the weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq?
Oh! What was that? There were none?