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Ghost do still sell the bike that came with these wheels - Lector FS SF Pro - so spare parts surely exist somewhere.
Wheels are called Ghost/Saint Jump Carbon Wheelset, 26 mm, 12x148 mm, CL, MS
https://www.wheelsports.de/Ghost-LECTOR-FS-PRO-Mid
https://www.klbikes.de/lector-fs-sf-pro-2025
The rear hub quickly stripped out the ring in the hub the ratchet mounts to
Was there any other damage? Could you have the replaced the inner ring?
I found a set of carbon mtb wheels by lightcarbon which are very similar to these. Slight weight discrepancies due to 'Weight (+/-3%)'.
88MB-MC932-1423
- 36t ratchet hub (but not dt dwiss)
- very similar weight, hub body shape and rim profile
- same freehub body etc.
LIGHTCARBON.COM Page 12
Do the internals look the same as the pairs purchased by some in here?
These are now down to £325 a set (Microspline) - £292.50 with the BCR10 code above. LINK
I don't need these. But I'm really tempted for a spare set to put some nice fast, light tyres on.
I don't need these. But I'm really tempted for a spare set to put some nice fast, light tyres on.
Same here, but I'd need new cassette and discs too.. so holding out, so far..
You've both got more restraint than me. Order two sets previously for the kids new bikes, saving 750g over their stock wheelsets (1500g vs 2250g 😲). Quality felt decent: even spoke tension, nicely true, nicely finished off rims etc.
Ended up buying another set for my own use 😀
I've just bought a new bike, not sure I can smuggle a pair of wheels in as well!
Was wondering how many of these they have left, over 12months since they originally appeared... 61 pairs according to the website! 😀
Still tempted at under £300 even if just to move the rims onto something better hub wise.
Just an update if anyone is playing around with freehubs (sorry I never checked back on this thread regarding the different freehubs)...
My split ring linked above worked for a while, but my bike (Stage Evo) has quite a flexy back end and the rear axle comes lose occasionally (going to try some loctite on it next) so I've been tightening up my axle quite tight every few rides, anyway I started getting the issue where the cranks keep rotating when you stop pedalling, like when you forget to put the little spacer back on the axle to space the freehub away from the hub shell bearing.
I think because the ring is a split ring the added torque of the axle is pushing it apart a bit more, and making the freehub move closer in towards the bearing, and creating the issue.
Anyway after lots of faffing I ended up making a 2mm wide spacer out of a spare big spacer from another XD freehub I had lying around.
Dimensions are as follows:
Spacer ID 15mm (to go over the axle)
Spcare OD 20mm max (the rachets have to be able to fit over the top of it, the existing spacer is 19mm)
Thickness 2mm (1.8-2.2mm is fine)
I thought this might be useful for anyone.
Still loving these wheels and the 370ln XD freehub on my dt e1900 wheelset seems to work fine, yes the hub shells are different comparing the Ghost hub to the e1900 370ln hub, the dt has no seal in the body and is narrower ID, the Ghost has a seal in (that the stock XD freehub just pushes into, without a seal on the freehub), however comparing the 2 hubs and the 2 freehubs back to back there's little difference in drag between the 2 when switching them about, however I can't say the sealing will be as good with the Ghost & DT combo as the Dt wheel and freehub. Kind of expected to faff with wheels this cheap though..
Oh BTW when I emailed Ghost a couple of months ago they replied back (quilckly, friendly) that these wheels were never meant to be sold separtely so they couldn't offer any spare parts or advice on them... Not very helpeful...!
OP here, I went with a safe (and cheaper) option in the end. I bought a pair of alloy xc wide Hunt wheels, they've been everything I was looking for.
I think you'd have better luck with the 350 ratchet parts as the seal is on the hub shell for those which would remove the need to the spacer. I finally succumbed to ordering a set (for the rims!) and will try my spare 350 XD and HG freehubs once they have arrived. They were also selling DT SP boost 350 hubs for £80 and my plan is to swap the rear to the DT hub and both wheels to allow nipples (after weighing the parts). Hope is to end up with a 1400g set of wheels 😀 (if my hunch about the rim weights are correct).
That's a shame @stevelol, thanks for doing the faffing and reporting back.
I bought three sets 😆 all sub-£300, fitted to mini-a11y's new bikes and my Tallboy. Yet to turn a wheel as only fitted last night: 744g saving over their stock wheel sets (1,492g vs 2,236g). Using the standard MS freehub on all as a DT XD driver (with no guarantee of longevity when bodging onto the Ghost hub) was close to the cost of a new SLX cassette.
I'm not the hub wrecker in my group (hi @big_scot_nanny!) but worst case if they shit themselves I'll rebuild onto something else.
I also went a different direction due to no info on spare parts availability. Went for some DT 350 hubs from sportandleisure - will learn how to build my first wheel.
I think you'd have better luck with the 350 ratchet parts as the seal is on the hub shell for those which would remove the need to the spacer. I finally succumbed to ordering a set (for the rims!) and will try my spare 350 XD and HG freehubs once they have arrived. They were also selling DT SP boost 350 hubs for £80 and my plan is to swap the rear to the DT hub and both wheels to allow nipples (after weighing the parts). Hope is to end up with a 1400g set of wheels 😀 (if my hunch about the rim weights are correct).
Thanks for the tip about the 350 freehub, will check it out.
Also what your planning seems like a huge faff to save about 50g! Also a perk of these wheels imo is that they come with brass nipples so you've 0 chance of getting galvanic corrosion happening between the carbon and aluminium nipples..
Owning these wheels has kind of ruined me for all other wheelsets, I was perfectly happy with hope hubs and 471 rims and have been for years, however now I'm thinking the investment of about a grand into a set of proper carbon wheels with a lifetime warranty would be worth it, going from a 2kg wheelset to 1450g is pretty amazing. Although I didn't really notice much of a benefit on my Stumpjumper, that's built heavily with a coil, o-chain and inserts though.
Yes it'll be a bit of a faff but I have the nipples already and the hub swap is so there is consistency across the fleet. Makes it much easier to stay on top of the maintainance and means easy parts swapping in case of breakages. They are likely to go on my daughter's race bike so weight saving at the outer edge is worthwhile.
Where are due to arrive today so will test the freehub fit.
Right wheels are here. DT freehubs are not compatible. The sealing arrangement is different so the DT (350) freehub drags. The ratchet rings are also a different inside diameter (DT ones have smaller ID so bigger contact area). The rims look really nice though. Bearings on the rear are notchy out of the box.
Pulled the rear wheel apart last night. Weights are;
Complete with valve and tape 831g
Valve 4.5g
Tape 9g
Raw complete wheel 817.5g
Rim 341.5g
Rear Hub 280.5g
Spokes and nipples 195.5g (calculated not weighed)
They had washers under the nipples. Based on those spoke and rim numbers I get an estimated 130g for the front hub. Rear hub is a bit porky, at DT 350 (newer version) is 234g. Spoke calc is giving an estimate of 1387g (645g/742g)with DT 350 hubs and squorx nipples using DT comp race spokes. I'm hoping to reuse the pillar spokes which are comparable with CX rays for weight so hopefully be around 1360g rebuilt (less if I can find a SH DT 240 hub from a wheelsets at 95g).
Summary, nice light rims, bit of fat in the hub but at least that's in the middle where it doesn't matter.
Superb info, thanks for sharing 👍
I've ridden mine a few times now and happy. 88kg on a Tallboy running chunky tyres and a lack of rider finesse. Initially planned to replace the rear hub for something I'm more familiar with, but I don't think that's necessary*. Unless it dies at least. Knowing the rims are light with the hub being the relatively heavy bit is encouraging.
* but then last night I made use of a 15% code on eBay to buy a pair of Pro5s for <£250 😀 (187g and 318g apparently - hub reliability over weight for me, and I prefer Hope > DT hubs).
No problem. I'll add spoke lengths and same details for the front wheel when I strip that.
All our bikes are now on DT hubs now as I have all the tools and makes repairs and spares so much easier. I've a rather nice set of silver,/black DT hubs that are destined for these rims.
Front wheel;
Raw complete wheel 659g
Rim 395.5g
Front Hub 153.5g
Spokes 143g
Spoke lengths appear to be a mix of 300mm and 302mm (14 of each on each wheel).
Rim ERD 591mm (measured as per DT spoke calc). Rim is offset, I think by about 2mm though getting mix numbers when measuring that.
Rim ERD 591mm (measured as per DT spoke calc). Rim is offset, I think by about 2mm though getting mix numbers when measuring that.
How sure are you about that ERD? I ask as coincidentally I unlaced my wheels this morning in anticipation of rebuilding onto Pro5s. Used the two-spokes-in-opposing-spoke-holes method to measure ERD and have it at 593mm, taking the nipple washers into consideration.
I agree about the 2mm or so offset - I can't decide if it's 2mm or 3mm offset.
I've got both wheels in bits now so will weigh things are post up later. Waylaid by family stuff.
Confident, I've a set of old spokes setup for measuring ERD. I measured without washers. Will redo it later with the stock washers. I think it was actually 591.5 which with washers would be inline with what you have.
In more of a coincidence the spokes are nearly correct for my DT hubs. The 302mm are 2mm longer than ideal (based on calc without washers). Just trying to decide what nipples and washers to use. Have loads of silver squorx which go well with the silver hubs. Could use sapim washers which add 2mm.
What are you doing with the spokes that came out?
I'll check mine again - was using the same method (two cut down spokes of known length, measuring the gap between). I've rarely bothered measuring manually myself in the past so there could be user error!
The washers that were fitted look very similar to Sapim HM washers.
What are you doing with the spokes that came out?
Keeping as spares. I fitted 2 pairs of these wheels to the kids new bikes (saved 750g over their stock wheelsets 😮 ) so a supply of spare spokes and hub parts is good to have. Hopefully by having spares I'll never need them, whereas if I didn't have spares I can guess what would happen...
592mm with stock washers. Are the HM's that thin, thought they were more like 1mm thick.
Good call, I'm giving the hubs to a club parent for the same same reason.
I think the stock spokes might be the wing 21 version (
Not the easiest to measure W but I get 1.3mm for D2. That fits with the weights quoted by Pillar. Going to try building back up with the DT front hub this weekend to see how they look with slightly long spokes. I compared the weight of 28 Sapim J bend D-lights I have in the correct length and there is not much in it. If I can't reuse the stock spokes will order new d-lights.
@a11y What's your view of the spoke hole stagger? Tried lacing tonight and did not get the expected space at the valve making me think there is no spoke hole stagger on the rims. It would be good to know which spoke hole.on.your other set goes which way relative to the valve.
Have worked it out from the pictures above. Now laced with correct valve orientation. Built weight 643g so modest saving over stock but decent savings over her current wheels.
@nixie strangely I had lacing issues too. Started with the front wheel, I got the usual space at the valve but wasn’t happy with how the spokes were exiting the rim holes - almost like there was some angle on the inner surface of the spoke holes leading to the spokes not exiting the rim holes centrally. I unlaced then relaced with the first spoke going to the opposite side of the hub, basically replicating the original lacing pattern exactly. Much happier. Only have both wheels loosely laced up, not done a proper tension yet.
I went with ERD 592 and all seems good with recommended spoke lengths. Mine will be slightly heavier than standard with my Pro5s and ACI Alpina DB spokes (2.0/1.7/2.0).
I also used 592 for calcs. The longer spokes are a bit long but are still within the nipple (squorx, threaded all the way to the end) so I think they will be fine. Not perfect but will work. Your pictures above were invaluable working out what the original lacing pattern was.
I've got the front tensioned up now, rear will have to wait till after I build a temporary rear for daughters bike as first race is this weekend so don't want to risk taking her current wheel apart for the hub without knowing I have one she can use!
Finished mine last night. Nice rims to build with, easy to get even tension. Near-identical spoke tension across DS and NDS both front and rear, I guess due to the rim offset. With ACI Alpina J-bends, Sapim brass nipples and HM washers mine are now:
Front = 732g (+65g)
Rear = 856g (+31g)
The extra weight being the hubs and my choice of spokes. I'd have been slightly lighter staying Centerlock rather than 6-bolt hubs, just personal preference. Won't be riding them until the trails dry out as I can't be bothered swapping my winter tyres over for just a few weeks (wishful thinking!) - I'll fit my faster-rolling summer tyres instead and wait...
That's not a bad gain for the extra reliability.
I tend to go for centrelock now even when using 6 bolt rotors as centrelock + ashima adapter + 6 bolt rotor is bizarrely lighter than 6 bolt hub and 6 (even ti) bolts. Also means I have the option of centrelock rotors and fitting even 6 bolt rotors is quicker.
Finally got my set finished. 1425g built which I'm happy with. I think the combination of the silver/black hubs, silver nipples and black/grey/silver rims looks very smart together.
Down to £300 now. Can't find any codes that work, though. Still struggling to resist...
Yeap had noticed that. Considering a second set to rebuild onto my lightweight dt hubs. The ghost rims are 100g lighter each than my current xr391s. The wheelsets already only weighs 1476g, 200g off that would be crazy light at 1276gish and 2mm wider.
Also not found a code that works.
I have a pair of E1900s at the moment, I'd keep those for heavier duty riding and use the Ghosts for more XC stuff with some lighter tyres I reckon.
I'll report back if it doesn't work out... I'm using my rebuilt-onto-Pro5s Ghost rim wheelset for general trail riding. Admittedly, that's on a 140/120mm Tallboy but I'm not a skinny XC whippet and it'll be fairly chunky trail use. Currently a Conti Xynotal/CrossKing combo with a rear Cushcore insert. Most riding buddies are on 140-160mm travel bikes where I use my Tallboy for the same terrain.
Hopefully I'm not being overly ambitious using such lightweight rims like this 😀
