[Closed] German GP - who's watching?

Nah, but I'm going there in a week or so with our formula student team 🙂

Watching via free wifi on laptop in pub 😉

Nah, but I'm going there in a week or so with our formula student team

Do you race on the F1 circuit with Formula Student?

I think they use the start straight for the acceleration tests, but a much smaller circuit with tighter corners for most of it.
I don't really know much of the details, I'm just there to make sure not too many of our students get electrocuted by our electric car 🙂

Well as far as i'm concerned, that's team orders, which are banned.

oh well that's my sweeper in the bin 👿

Team orders are expressly forbidden and the FIA will surely have to penali... Oh no wait, it's Ferrari.

I think massa's chain slipped as he was making a break

How can they possibly get away with that?

I know they likely will, but how?

With a bit of luck, one of alonso's toys might get stuck in his airbox, he's thrown enough out!

Team orders are suppposed to be banned what is going on absolute bullshit I hope someone logs a complaint although does not seem it will happen.

What was that? Seriously ferrari?

That's an uneasy silence 😯

Don't worry the FIA (Ferrari's International Assistance) will have some cock and bull story already lined up and ready to say why they didn't cheat. Absolute joke. Eddie Jordan said it right at the beginning - if Alonso wants the win, it's up to HIM to win it - not the crew with "team orders" coming into play.

Massa was 'fuel' saving wasn't he? 😐

Team orders is slowing a fazt3er driver to allow a slower one to pass. This was the slower driver allowing the faster one to pass to keep him out of the clutches of Vettel.

No issue at all

Your anti alonso bias is showing

well the faster driver should pass the slower [i]legally [/i] i.e. within the rules

TJ rules say he must pass without team assistance! Rightly or wrongly.

Blimey, I agree with Eddie !

TJ - your talking shitte! You clearly hear Massa's engineer say sorry! You hear him being told what to do and everyone is saying it was team orders! I'm not anti Alonso - I'm anti cheating.

TJ, i'm getting a feeling you have nothing constructive to add when it comes to formula one. No one has blamed Alonso for this.

I stand by what I say. Its not cheating, it will not be found to be such. No complaint will be upheld.

If it was Hamilton wanting past his teammate you wouldn't be complaining.

Domenicalli obviously having a very difficult phone call there to someone

Shame the Ferraris couldn't have battled it out, but with Vettel just behind to capitalise on any mistakes, the fact that battling would not have been good for either car's engine/gearbox etc, and that Alonso has a much more realistic chance of winning the Driver's championship, the Ferrari [i]team[/i] did the best thing they could. Let's face it, Alonso is far better than Massa, and Ferrari's only chance of the Driver's WC. The 1-2 was pretty safe, but might not have been had the two Ferrari's battled it out for the win.

It's not about what Eddie Jordan thinks is right or wrong; he's never been in the position Ferrari have, so his opinion is irrelevant. Of course, it's not [i]sporting[/i], but considering what teams invest in the sport, then the win and WC is what it's all about. Very very tough on Massa, who [i]deserved[/i] the win, but then it's up to him to be better than Alonso over a season. On results so far, he's clearly some way behind. It's Alonso who's driving that team forward, so maybe he deserves the odd break now and then. It's about time he had a bit of good luck anyway.

I expect there will be a shitstorm erupting over this, but Ferrari will probably come out of this ok. It could of course backfire on them, but this is a sport where risks have to be taken. Red Bull allowed their drivers to race, and they took each other out. The team suffered. Ferrari have at least got the 1-2 and the vital points today.

Your so wrong TJ, if I'd want Hamilton get past a team mate I'd want see him do it fair and square and in the past he has done so! And who says' we are all Hamilton fans?

TJ - you're such a knob, FMs fastest lap was within 1/10th of FA.

I would love FM to just lean over and strangle Alonso while he's talking.

I bet he's tempted. 🙂

Funny how Massa's not wanting answer the questions hey. His comment being "a good job for the team" says it all and boy does he look happy - not.

I bet you that Ferrari are not censured in any way

Guys - your bias is so clear its funny. Hamilton can do no wrong, Ferrari and Alonso no right

Farrari did nothing wrong at all - within the rules.

TJ, and then you have to bring in Hamilton. Once in a while it'd help your cause if you balanced your arguments but you are coming off as a broken record. It stopped being interesting a while back.

Elfinsafety

So what you are saying is that it is ok to cheat?

Bias to Hamilton??? No ones mentioned Hamilton!!! It's funny how only you, Alonso and the boss of Ferrari are saying they didn't cheat! Have you some Spanish blood in you that your not telling us of 😉

TandemJeremy - Member

Farrari did nothing wrong at all - within the rules.

So that's why Massa is unwilling to answer questions in the after-race interview huh?

Ron Smedley talks more bullshit than a politician! Utter utter crap Ron.

Massa is well pissed off and rightly so

I bring in Hamilton because it shows the double standards on here. He has been censured so many times for dangerous driving and causing accidents but in the eyes of STW he is conspired against.

So when there is no complaint upheld and Ferrari are not censured will you then believe they did no wrong?

It's not about bias its about millions of people wanting to see a motor race where winning is done fairly and within the rules. Ferrari has gone down in my estimation as a result of this - Massa's words clearly show he clearly disagreed with this.

TJ you seem to have a 'thing' sorry bias about Hamilton, do you have a white pointy hat and a burning crucifix to hand?

He has been censured so many times for dangerous driving and causing accidents but in the eyes of STW he is conspired against.

Like Schuey in his heyday? 😉

So what you are saying is that it is ok to cheat?

If Ferrari have been proven to have cheated, then I'm sure the FIA will penalise them appropriately. The same way they did to McLaren over Spygate and Lewis in Melbourne 2009, and Renault for Singapore 2008.

The crucial fact is, that at no point did Ferrari tell Massa to let Alonso by. In my opinion, what happened today is no more 'cheating' than a team having a double diffuser or an F-duct...

Both Ferraris should be kicked out - but hey who's in charge of the FIA? Oh yes the man responsible for all of Schui's 'overtaking' moves!!!

TJ - team orders were banned due to Ferraris disgraceful show at the Austrian GP with Schuey and Rubbens. We all knew they went on, we know it's a stupid rule now but the rule exists now! It wasn't thought through well when it was implemented and it needs sorting properly but today was a clear show of team orders and you can't deny that.

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at no point "did Ferrari tell Massa to let Alonso by"

*chuckles*

Tell me ur not naive enough to believe ferrari wouldn't have a pre planned code for this eventuality?, something like. Oh I dunno, how about "he is faster than you...do you understand" or similar

And TJ hammy bashing even though he had nothing to do with it? well I can try to look shocked but it would be as convincing as smedleys performance

tails - spot on!

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=48918

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http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=48918

and for something more important.

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