What people seem to be missing here is you have to frack where the bloody shale gas is. You cant just drill down stick a bloody tap in and start pumping it out FFS. Its to do with geology innit! The biggest reserves might just be in Oxfordshire or Buckinghamshire.
I will absolutely guarantee no suitable reserves will be found under any London politicians house.
Nah, best reserves will be under poor people's houses. They always are. Funny that isn't it?
you have to frack where the bloody shale gas is
You don't [i]have[/i] to frack anywhere...
I will absolutely guarantee no suitable reserves will be found under any London politicians house.Nah, best reserves will be under poor people's houses. They always are. Funny that isn't it?
Not surprising. Best = cheapest to extract, rich people tend to cost a lot to fight.
Nah, best reserves will be under poor people's houses. They always are. Funny that isn't it?
I take you have never been to Balcombe in West Sussex then? A more posh Tory heartland you would struggle to find, i think the locals may feel a little betrayed!
You don't grasp the seriousness of the domestic energy security problem. Who here does not rely on the russian gas to heat their homes and to cook? like any deep extraction process, it can be done while minimising risk and disruption to life on the surface. Nimbys will change their minds when there is no heating, they cant drive anywhere, and the lights go out. None of This solves our medium to long term climate change problem though. It's a stopgap but a necessary one IMO.
It's unfortunate this this has turned into a stupid north south political football.
Who here does not rely on the russian gas to heat their homes and to cook?
So what ?
People need to use less energy. That's what really needs to happen. Couple of wooly jumpers, walking places, not firing up seventeen tellys.
Do all that and we won't need russian gas or iraqi oil.
Oh. Sorry, I see the problem now, we live in a country full of selfish, stupid people.
[i]It's unfortunate this this has turned into a stupid north south political football. [/i]
I've seen the official fracking map. It isn't focused on the south. I could be wildly off course and I accept that, but on an island that is a mere few hundred miles high, I'm struggling to accept that all the UK's oil, coal, nuclear, gas and poo is north of Birmingham. Really?
It's all basically a backfire. "Let's burn less fossil fuels" was the idea, but "because it's *ing up the planet" was hard to sell to a certain flavour of total *, who didn't really care if the world goes on fire after they're dead.
So a second front was opened up, "because we'll run out soon". That worked for a bit, but then unfortunately the sort of total **** who ignored the first reason, saw the loophole in the second reason and started extracting gas and oil from wherever it could be found- blowing up rocks, scavenging tar sands, drilling in wilderness and pushing to dig up the antartic... They'd stick an nodding donkey on their son's head if there was baby oil in there.
(and name him Derek)
So, instead of cutting down on fossil burning, we're going to end up burning even more, and making even more of a mess while we do it. Hurrah!
MrSmith.... google "ecosystem services" read, have a think and then get back to us.
Y'know what, A_A, we might just have found something we agree on
Y'know what, A_A, we might just have found something we agree on
OMGZ...who'd have though such a man can think like me....the great zokes.
The thing that really pisses me off about this is the tax break stupid George has given the fracking companies, if we really need the gas and it is the only way then reluctantly i would say we should do it but there should be green taxes on it and the money earmarked for investment into green energy sources. Does anyone actually believe for one minute that giving these companies a tax break will lower household energy bills at all? Just more profits for the same old people and no doubt a healthy donation to the Tories 2015 re-election fund 🙄
Looks like its all OK he actually meant the NW so we’re saved.
Ah that's ok then. I take it you mean the bit between the lakes and Birmingham.
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I will absolutely guarantee no suitable reserves will be found under any London politicians house.
wanna bet? - landowners stand to make squillions, and fortunately, gas extraction requires fewer of those noisy, grubby, workers.
roughly: coal = work for workers, gas = money for landowners.
there's something about the tories that makes me want to [s]join a union[/s] build a guilotine and join the revolution.
Bowland would be more precise.
I thought most of this shale gas stuff was centred around Blackpool? And to be fair you'd be hard pushed to make Blackpool look any more apocalyptic
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NE or NW the supposed low population levels and remoteness would probably be a heaving cosmopolitan metropolis compare to the parts of the states currently being fracked.
This is just one of those Mr Toad moments and the UK government is currently going poop poop as the fracking juggernaut roles by. I mean pumping water at high pressure into the ground that has quite a lot of geological fault lines and is riddled with mines is never going to end well.
This I learnt at Teesside university.
You went to Teesside uni and learnt something!!!!
Looks like its all OK he actually meant the NW so we’re saved.
thank dear god
If there's shale gas under Bucks they can use the HS2 construction sites. At least the locals might get something out of it (unlike HS2).
I mean whats the worst that could happen......
They find Shale Gas in the SE...
At least the locals might get something out of it (unlike HS2).
Surely the satisfaction of knowing they are helping re-balance this great nations economy, so its less south east-centric, and the engine of growth, and the dynamic spirit of free enterprise can once again return to the provincial cities of the north, is reward enough in itself?
they can't frack in the south! its full of pricks and the gas will escape 😆
equally, its the north, nobody cares about the north apart from northerners so frack it all, frack it all i say!
Surely the satisfaction of knowing they are helping re-balance this great nations economy, so its less south east-centric, and the engine of growth, and the dynamic spirit of free enterprise can once again return to the provincial cities of the north, is reward enough in itself?
Really?
Struth, if I'd known there was anything in it for Northerners I'd have campaigned against it! I just thought it was to allow the rich Southerners quick access to the NW so the can lord it over the peasants and still get back in time for afternoon tea and medals.
ff - Only kidding. Its actually so rich southerners can buy up all the property in the Peak District, and get to their second homes really, really quickly at the weekend
I have a strange stirring in my loins. I think this'll be the stw thread to end them all!
I have a strange stirring in my loins.
Fracking does that.
Ahh go frack yourself. It's a great word
Actually, I re-read the report. This helpful image tells us where they *know* shale gas is but also where they think it might be. Where's that bottom circle? It's hard to tell. Looks like it might be round a large city of some description. FRACK AWAY BABY!
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What's needed is less people.
