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Who said the tags are fine?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:19 am
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<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12.8px; background-color: #eeeeee;">Who said the tags are fine?</span>

Just testing

Nope, still don't know how to make this work.

Can we go back to the old forum until this one has been tested. And when it does come back I think a server upgrade is going to be needed (along with an SSL certificate for the site).


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:22 am
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Is anyone else getting dead threads on the main forum page? Showing up in a pinkish colour but lead to 'page not found' errors. I'm curious about the tricky machining job! The number of replies even seems to be creeping up too.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:23 am
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Me.

They keep getting longer.

Maybe they disappear for everyone if one person deletes them


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:23 am
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Threads can be bumped on the classifieds now, if you have something unsold from the last few weeks 😀


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:27 am
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Is anyone else getting dead threads on the main forum page? Showing up in a pinkish colour but lead to ‘page not found’ errors. I’m curious about the tricky machining job! The number of replies even seems to be creeping up too.

Me too 🙁


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:28 am
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I love the lack of colour on a desktop.

If I narrow the window too far though I end up with the dreaded mobile green. It really is an awkward colour.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:31 am
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The dead threads look perhaps like threads pending approval... Once approval (or something) happens they get a proper URL rather than DB ID URL.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:35 am
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G'ah wheres my post gone now???????????


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:37 am
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Posting in Android/mobile view.

If my sentences are too long the text box scrolls left ..

... and then I can't get it back to hit the ...

... submit button.

Temporary fix is to rotate the phone to landscape mode.

. then back to portrait


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:38 am
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I sent a post about images making a post disappear and lo and behold it disappeared even though I didn't post the image.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:38 am
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Hows about this one.

If you post an image it disappers e.g.

farm5.staticflickr.com/4665/28091246979_bb75f794e0_b.jpg


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:40 am
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Putting https:// at the front of the image link.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:41 am
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Although the thread thinks its been updated but the post count remains the same.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:41 am
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sorry if I've missed it. is there an explanation anywhere of the new features , what the different colour posts mean and so on.

lots of broken links in the for sale section, can one report those?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:43 am
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Posted : 25/01/2018 10:48 am
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Why didn’t they get somebody to beta-test the forums before going live? It’s hard to imagine anyone saying “yes, the user experience is markedly improved. You’ve clearly spent a lot of time considering how people interact with something as basic as a forum, then making sure that those interactions are the simplest to achieve.” Sorry guys, it’s not a good job. What was the thinking behind, for example, getting rid of the ‘threads replied to’ page? Why would users not want to refer to that?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:49 am
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Does this work?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:52 am
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Apparently it does. How about this


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:53 am
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Sorry guys, it’s not a good job. What was the thinking behind, for example, getting rid of the ‘threads replied to’ page? Why would users not want to refer to that?

^This


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:53 am
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New trail featues


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:54 am
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Okay this is weird. Either someones fixed something regarding the images or I'm doing the same thing as I was 10 mins ago.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:55 am
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Why didn’t they get somebody to beta-test the forums before going live?

That's not how modern development works. Everyone's a beta tester and everything is in beta, until the next release which will be a beta.

Allows constant changes and excusable bugs 😀

p.s. is this how the quote works now? Still have to copy the bit I want to quote then hit blockquote button and paste it in there? Not seeing a button to just quote reply.

Ah, and all the 'span' / 'div' etc in the quotes, I think is if you copy from the page it will copy the HTML also and it's pasting it into the edit box. Paste it as plain text, which may require pasting into a text editor first and copy from that. So even more awkward than before.

And yeah green doesn't appear on the desktop. I find it quite bland by comparison 😉


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:56 am
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The postcount shown in the list of topics doesn't match the number in the thread.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:58 am
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What was the thinking behind, for example, getting rid of the ‘threads replied to’ page? Why would users not want to refer to that?

That's a problem I have too...

Replies created - great, I can see my own post but not get to the thread I posted in

Topics Engaged In - This doesn't work at all. There's topics I've never opened in there

As much as I'm sure STW Towers worked hard, it's either incredibly buggy or you've missed something in working out how users interact with the forums.

Also, you need to do some mod_rewrite work as some links to account pages could easily be redirected to their new equivalent.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 10:59 am
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Can you please just turn it off until it works?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:02 am
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two words

ROLL BACK

Roll Back


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:03 am
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The silence is deafening..........


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:04 am
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p.s. is this how the quote works now? Still have to copy the bit I want to quote then hit blockquote button and paste it in there? Not seeing a button to just quote reply.

What blockquote button? I don't see any buttons at all other than "preview" which doesn't do anything and "submit" which does what you'd expect. Now, it's entirely possible my "shitty script blocker" is killing it but that in itself is a problem.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:04 am
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I'm assuming what's happened is:
-They had BBPress version-OLD
-This was manipulated a lot to do what they wanted (BBPress version-STW)
It meant they couldn't update to BBPress version-OLD.1, or newer versions.

Now they wanted to clean everything up and move to a new version.

Sooooo
You get new functions for free (and presumably security too), but some of the stw-customisations have been lost.

In time, they'll add back in some of the customisations and work through the bugs.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:06 am
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Think the image thing may be filesize related, although that doesn't make much sense as surely its just a link though to the host site. Anyway, if I post 2 photos it fails, if I post one it seems to cope. Make of that what you will, I'm off to do some work.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:10 am
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I don’t see any buttons at all other than “preview” which doesn’t do anything and “submit” which does what you’d expect. Now, it’s entirely possible my “shitty script blocker” is killing it but that in itself is a problem.

Nah it's not, just disabled all my plugins and it's still not showing any buttons.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:13 am
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Pretty much that AlexSimon I’m not sure on the exact details but that kind of sums it up.

Features and tweaks will come this isn’t the final product.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:14 am
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‘All your tag are belong to us’? Who wrote that?

😉

Why is everyone having this quote problem?

I'm not, because the only way I have of quoting is manually adding the tags myself (not only do I have no buttons apart from "preview", the update also borked STW Extender Tools, which is how I usually quote - have to admit I'm tempted just to fix the latter for the time being as I don't hold much hope of them fixing their software any time soon).

Obviously it’s ST’s forum, but whatever the motivation behind the changes, at the moment they’re impacting pretty significantly on the user experience and people don’t always enjoy being unofficial beta testers.

Indeed - as I mentioned earlier I have a rollout next week involving similar tech to this forum. Except it's not being rolled out live - the existing system is being kept and it will be run in parallel and sandboxed for a week or so. That's kind of standard practice for software updates when they're business critical things...


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:15 am
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ahhh man, whats happened to the forum, bring back the old one, this is way too complex, loads of bugs 🙁


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:17 am
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[i]Sooooo

You get new functions for free (and presumably security too), but some of the stw-customisations have been lost.

In time, they’ll add back in some of the customisations and work through the bugs.[/i]

So, nobody documented the changes, so they couldn't implement them before going live with the new version? Or they can't find the documentation? Or... jeez, I dunno. But even BBPRESS.NEW version should keep the linked videos, surely?!


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:18 am
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Sooooo
You get new functions for free (and presumably security too), but some of the stw-customisations have been lost.

But wouldn't you make sure the STW customisations you had done before were implemented in the new forum before going live?

Presumably the customisations were done to tailor the site to the users - so why dump them.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:18 am
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This thread cracks me up. Still, at least Mark doesn't seem to be wasting his time reading it.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:21 am
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I’m assuming what’s happened is:
-They had BBPress version-OLD
-This was manipulated a lot to do what they wanted (BBPress version-STW)
It meant they couldn’t update to BBPress version-OLD.1, or newer versions.

Now they wanted to clean everything up and move to a new version.

Sooooo
You get new functions for free (and presumably security too), but some of the stw-customisations have been lost.

In time, they’ll add back in some of the customisations and work through the bugs.

Which is a good thing and well overdue (hopefully with the new version they won't feel so much need to customise everything because they're "different to everybody else"). However there are other ways of rolling out updates.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:24 am
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<span style="color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">So, nobody documented the changes, so they couldn’t implement them before going live with the new version? Or they can’t find the documentation? Or… jeez, I dunno. But even </span><span class="skimlinks-unlinked" style="background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">BBPRESS.NEW</span><span style="color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"> version should keep the linked videos, surely?!
</span>

Some are also disabled for the moment.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:28 am
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Oh FFS!

🙂


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:29 am
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I dunno, Drac. You're showing off the ease of use of the forum fantastically


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:31 am
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So, when do we think we'll be through testing then?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:31 am
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It's 9 years since the Great Hack. Maybe this will be fixed by 2027?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 11:33 am
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So, when do we think we’ll be through testing then?

The day before the next version of BBPress is released?


 
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