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Indeed, I had not considered that in my rejection of Theology. I take it back.

As an aside surfing that wiki I found this wiki [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion ]irreligion[/url].
We are the 6th most irreligious country in the world with an average of 52% being irreligious. That is heartening.
USA is the 32nd with 19.5% being irreligious, which is scary..


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 10:57 am
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I guess I was asking for trouble posting it..

This is not aimed at you as such toys19 - but it's a strange and sad feeling being on the receiving end of the atheist sneering.. often I've been doing the sneering myself in the past, and worse

I didn't realise quite how agnostic I was either until this morning

And yes, in case you were wondering, I was probably already more than a bit tense.. baby yunki has been behaving in ways very much [i]not[/i] in accordance with the Geneva convention again lately


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 10:57 am
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I'm not sure I desrved to be insulted though?

Although, you probably [u]deserved[/u] it.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 10:59 am
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This is not aimed at you as such toys19 - but it's a strange and sad feeling being on the receiving end of the atheist sneering..

Oh for goodness sake.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:01 am
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Just so we're clear,

I'm not sneering because I'm an atheist. I'm sneering because it was sentimental twaddle designed to appeal to emotion. IMHO.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:02 am
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what does that mean lifer..?

are you in a mood..?

cougar - sentimental twaddle

ahhh.. so this is all fear led then..?

the athiests are worried about this piece of writing and getting defensive..?

so it's a powerful bit of twaddle..?


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:03 am
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loum, thats jsut a symptom of my typlexia...
ynki, lack of sleep?
For the record, I was not sneering, it might have come across as such so apologies, but I do like to examine that which is in front of me, can't help it. To be honest, it was the easiest dismantling of a piece of twaddle I've done in a long time.

The point of vigorous discussion is to learn, I learned that theology is not all bad, if it can be used to kick religion then happy days. I also learned about irreligion, which has proven more useful.
I don't know what you learned but I hope you can make a positive out of it.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:03 am
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Sorry I'm late - just noticed this was for me. Erm....

Babies in the womb have no language and cannot talk.

But, you know... thanks anyway.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:09 am
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I've learned that the term 'freethought' is incredibly ironic.. 😀


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:10 am
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No mood here just bored with the 'woe is me' hyperbole* (as I've already mentioned).

What do atheists have to fear? We own the future.

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I've learned that the term 'freethought' is incredibly ironic..


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:11 am
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What do atheists have to fear? We own the future.

logic and reason certainly seem to be the en vogue default religious standpoint

the 'woe is me' hyperbole*

lifer I don't really know what you're going on about, is the bathos confusing you..?


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:18 am
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😆

This has the makings of one of the greats

Please keep it up


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:19 am
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I can only keep going til baby wakes up and starts whingeing again.. but I'll do my best


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:21 am
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not philosophy!?

given the obvious spin on plato and beyond someone I think must be having the proverbial giraffe.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:23 am
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"I can only keep going til baby wakes up and starts whingeing again"

Thats not whingeing... thats singing.

The light, the light it's beautiful,
Mum you're wonderful and loving
This Dad fella ain't bad either.

😆


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:32 am
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An illustration of what? Its religous propaganda.

I chose not to read it like that, but I could see how you might (and it may well have been intended that way).

It just points out that in some situations, you may think you know everything, but only because you don't have the facility to perceive anything else.

It could be considered an illustration of the Dunning-Kruger effect.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:34 am
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It just points out that in some situations, you may think you know everything, but only because you don't have the facility to perceive anything else.

This is the greatest slur on any scientist. It is patently untrue, and if you know science , you know it is in true.
The dunning kruger thing is a pathetic insult.

I [u]think[/u] it was Einstein who said " As the pool of light gets bigger, so the circumference of darkness around it expands"

The one thing I know is that I know very little.
We can dismantle science if you want, there are some great ways to show its limitations, but the OP's original paragraph is not a good way to do it.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:37 am
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is the bathos confusing you..?

Nope, missed it, please highlight. And as for:

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"the 'woe is me' hyperbole*"

lifer I don't really know what you're going on about

How about:

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why are folk afraid to think abstractly..?

there's some on here that get their knickers in a real twist about it.. even if it's other folk doing it..

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sorry that it made some angry

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incur the jeering wraith of the disciples of anal

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but it's a strange and sad feeling being on the receiving end of the atheist sneering.. often I've been doing the sneering myself in the past, and worse

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I've learned that the term 'freethought' is incredibly ironic..

You don't think there's any hyperbole in there? Given that all that has happened is people have said that a passage you've copied from facebook is rubbish/not the amazingly deep sentiment you thought it was.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:44 am
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It just points out that in some situations, you may think you know everything, but only because you don't have the facility to perceive anything else.

More "God of the gaps" Molly?


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:46 am
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i didn't think it was amazingly deep you cretin 😆


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:47 am
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yunki, try not to be insulting.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:48 am
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Then why the butt hurt?


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:49 am
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it's really hard not to be insulting..

I'm not very bright and I'm being baited, if y'all were in my front room, literally instead of by proxy, I imagine that I would be Mr Pokey Eyerson by now.. 😳

I posted a nice twee thing hoping for a few folk to get around and warm themselves over the pathos and a bandload of bootboys jump in for a ****fest

it's irritating


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:50 am
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Well you are being baited, I dunno if you are not very bright, I would say what you posted originally is not bright, but we all make mistakes..

Your perception of me/us is a bit sad, I just didn't think it was very sentimental, was flawed, and pretty lame. I know you did not create it.

Do you mean bathos or pathos, they mean different things?


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:55 am
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I know I know very little. I certainly dont know how to pronounce hyperbole


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:55 am
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the athiests are worried about this piece of writing and getting defensive..?

Personally I am terrified about those talking womb babies

PS very funny so far Yunki


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:57 am
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That's how I read it yunki - twee, but in a good way. Nothing to get worked up about.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 11:57 am
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The dunning kruger thing is a pathetic insult.

I think you are taking my posts here personally, they were not intended to be so.

I was not accusing you of displaying the DK effect. I was pointing out that DK could be considered an inevitable consequence of our position as human beings.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:00 pm
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toys19 - bathos, pathos..?

as I typed it

bathos in the first post, pathos in the second


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:01 pm
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I posted a nice twee thing hoping for a few folk to get around and warm themselves over the pathos

Oh. I thought you were trying to get in touch.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:02 pm
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I like it also Yunki,
Saw it for what it was....
Not a reason to act smart assy and rude.
Think the mod/cougar could have been clearer and stopped the baiting/thread bashing sooner.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:02 pm
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molgripos, fair enough

galactus Think the mod/cougar could have been clearer and stopped the baiting/thread bashing sooner.

I don't think so, you can't post twaddle and not expect to have to accountfor yourself. Forum is about discussion you know. As far as I can see the bashing/insults mostly came from Yunki.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:04 pm
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yeah sorry woppit..

my tongue in cheek has become foot in mouth I think


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:06 pm
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The reason why some don't see it as twee is that it isn't [i]actually[/i] about babies. Recast it as two men in a condemned cell talking about what happens when they are let out and I don't see the winsomeness.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:06 pm
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Recast it as two men in a condemned cell talking about what happens when they are let out

nope.. you're right

I would have still loved it for exactly the same reasons.. but I may have seen that it could stir up some negativity amongst certain extremist forum members.. ('scuse the hyperbole lifer, I'm starting to think it's just part of my natural pattern of discourse 😳 )

I think maybe my teething baby is playing havoc with my hormones and blinding my foresight.. it was just too cute for me OK..?
I will endeavour to wake up colder and more analytical tomorrow morning..


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:10 pm
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I may have seen that it could stir up some negativity amongst certain extremist forum members..

Dude, ANYTHING can stir up some negativity amongst certain extremist forum members.

Overtaking, for example. 😉


 
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As far as I can see the bashing/insults mostly came from Yunki.

+1, eg:

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but I may have seen that it could stir up some negativity amongst certain extremist forum members..


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:14 pm
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As far as I can see the bashing/insults mostly came from Yunki.

Well you are being baited, I dunno if you are not very bright

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Posted : 22/04/2013 12:18 pm
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but I may have seen that it could stir up some negativity amongst certain extremist forum members.. ('scuse the hyperbole lifer, I'm starting to think it's just part of my natural pattern of discourse )

I cannot see any of us being neagtive this came from you yunki:

you are philistines

oh piss off you mumpy eejut..

you sound more like a petulant wee boy this morning... that can't spell

there's some on here that get their knickers in a real twist about it.

the sneering few.

you cretin

I've given up half way downt he 2nd page.

And

I dunno if you are nto very bright

Is a selective misquote, I was pointing out that I did not agree with your own assertiont hat you were thick. I was being respectful and non judegmental, despite you throwing insults.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:21 pm
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I posted a nice twee thing hoping for a few folk to get around and warm themselves over the pathos and a bandload of bootboys jump in for a ****fest
but you have been here a long time and you should have expected this.

Not saying it's right, but it was kinda inevitable

<edit> oh and I'm sure things will improve with the nipper soon and you get more sleep, good luck.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:23 pm
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oh for goodness sakes

I've already admitted that I have been insulting
continually

do you want a little prize..?

you've admitted that I was being baited

I think we're all even now then..?

you asked what I had learned from this 'discussion'..?

I am yunki - I am agnostic, insulting and cannot abide obtuseness

If all you've got left (lifer, toys19) is personal attacks then I believe, according to tradition, that I have won

I just wish I knew what it was that I'd won.. 😀


 
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I am yunki - I cannot abide obtuseness

Yet you're agnostic?


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 12:28 pm
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don't be obtuse


 
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😆


 
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😀


 
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