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putting up a ‘proper’ fence in place of a wire fence with driven stake supports will always involve digging and placing concrete over your side of the boundary,
Lots of useful advice on this thread, except for that. Why on earth will it always involve using your land. He could have bolted post supports on to his block wall.
The suspense is killing me.
I bet he asked where the postcrete came from...
TBH, I am very glad this is resolved, it was giving me anxiety by proxy.
Lots of useful advice on this thread, except for that. Why on earth will it always involve using your land. He could have bolted post supports on to his block wall.
Agreed, or asked to split the boundary with a shared foundation, but even then you can refuse.
Note - I would be treating the centre of the existing block wall as the boundary.
OP, offer a mutual party wall agreement. Cheap from internet or lawyer. 100 quid and get it all agreed.
Does his dog still have all its sausages?
Did he admit to being wrong and employ the Edinburgh de-fence?
Oh, very good.
Did he admit to being wrong and employ the Edinburgh de-fence?
nice Post.
I like a nice pun as much as the next person, but a boundary has to be drawn somewhere.
Did you say that you'd hoof him in the slats?
nice Post.
I see what you did there...
Come on im interested.
Is the OP now pushing up daisies fence posts
This threads starting to divide us.
Sorry for taking it off the rails but the neighbours dad was being a total arris.
Some of these puns are a bit "hit and miss".
neighbours dad was being a total arris
Well that is quite offencive
Beaten to it
I can cedar you all really nailed it with these inventive fence pun posts, you're breaking boundaries.
I suppose hammering frozen sausage into a dog's bum could be described as "ring fencing"
What a let-down; huge build-up and then...phuuut.
Poops, I really thought you were better than this.
Is disappoint.
Didn’t poopscoop say he as an ex copper? I reckon he sent his mates round to poopscoops with a jumped up search warrant and poor old poops is currently in the clink getting a cavity search. How long can he be held without charge? 24 hrs? He will be back posting tomorrow on his release and by that time the fence will be back up.
It’s a double bluff, the neighbour has buried him under the patio.
Sorry only time for a quick update.
The fence reappeared today! Again, I only noticed from looking out the bedroom window and doing a double take.lol When I last looked last night it was neatly piled up in their garden. By morning the fence fairies has been!
It was put back up either just before dawn or just after daybreak. I'm not kidding.
There have been some modifications to it though...
What is his answer to the question "why are you repeatedly trying to build your fence in my garden?"
The man's a bully.
Was the post removed because you took a fence?
There have been some modifications to it though…
Tell me you took a sledgehammer to it, Falling Down style...
Wait, so you had words with this guy and he took the new fence down and then he put it up again overnight? Sweet jésus, that guy needs a serious talking to!
Can you take it down in such a way that he can't put it back up? Or maybe hire someone to do the moving and then charge him?
chainsaw.@the knees*
* The fences knees ...... how ever tempted you are.
Time to go full Michael Douglas/Falling Down....
This is not Israel/ Palestine told via the medium of gardens again, is it?
It was put back up either just before dawn or just after daybreak. I’m not kidding
Detrimental manoeuvres in the dark.
IGMC (that’s for @cougar and his kestrel)
This is not Israel/ Palestine told via the medium of gardens again, is it?
Sounds more like US/Mexico to me! 😉
I have to say posts like this are my favourite...
More info required. whats actually happened?
The new fence is looking good
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It was put back up either just before dawn or just after daybreak. I’m not kidding
You know you said you weren't looking at moving in the near future? Well...
I think this needs a Panel to make a judgement. It’s a border-line decision knot to be taken lightly, perhaps engage that famous domestic boundary lawyer, Ron Seal.
The OP lives at Mar a Lago and this photo of his neighbour has now emerged.
Ok, still brief I'm afraid.
Had a "chat" with neighbour and "builder dad" that went on 30 minutes or so and also covered a few other "historic" issues that have occurred over the part few years as a result of the renovations (or updates on a 30's mid terrace into a mini Versailles depending upon perspective).
I initially apologised (hold on...) as I wanted to see the expression on their faces. Sure enough they quickly glanced at each other with a fleeting glance of smugness before I went on to say that my apology was for letting them get away with so much in the past that I had obviously lead them to think things like this were acceptable when they were most definitely not.
I then went a little volatile (for me) and went on to give them 2 parallel versions of the future as I put it. In one normality was restored and a situation flourished whereby both sides treated each other with respect. (That's unlikely to happen...see the end of this post.)
In the other I "hit" the daughter with a constant dribble of paperwork raising boundary disputes and anything else that might have merit, not enough to constitute harassment or such and not even being bothered if I can win the oundary dispute (for instance) but more than enough to make it notifiable to a seller and to do my absolute damnedest to hit the daughter with a significant financial loss when she sells it. Doubling down, i asked them if I had been the absolute epitomy of a considerate neighbour in the past particularly given some other facts I've not given here (they affirmed I had) then pointed out that I am routinely up till 5am and there are many hobbies that I would relish undertaking during those hours. Low level noise,yes, but more than enough to be an unfortunate irritant. In effect, I told them, they were working making me into a reflection of them as neighbours.
I referred to this option as one shared by a "family member" that had referred to it as the "fight bastard with bastard" option. That's the one point he almost lost his relative composure... "I don't like being called that", he said between.his teeth.
There was more to the discussion and I'll start another thread on that but it's worth a different thread as its about potential planning regulation breaches etc, though I think I'm getting optimistic on that one... but pictures and thread to follow soon.
Back to the fence, after being given loads of excuses about why the boundary line was right, including the presence of a dead rose bush stump... don't ask) and why the posts absolutely HAD to be on our land.... The whole fence was removed within about 30 minutes by him and his daughter.
The next day was when I discovered it had then been erected again BUT on his own land and with the posts now facing INTO their garden too.
Now... Here is the quandary that needs a new thread. The fence was only one battle and the massive enlargement of a small balcony all our terraces have has been going on since his daughter moved in. Delayed by Covid admittedly but still on going for over a calendar year when when excluding the pandemic. It is going to directly affect us as they are planning to further build up a wall to give them (and us I guess) some privacy... BUT it will be right next to the only windows in our living room. The windows face SE with their wall (they might use a fence panel) directly to the South a matter of a few feet from the windows. For much of the afternoon (particularly in non summer months with a lower sun) it will hugely impact and direct sunlight entering the room.
That's my main battle. The fence was just a skirmish along the way.
I let the horse partially bolt on this one as, much of it is already built, I was simply taken in by various "compromises" he suggested. Utterly dumb I know. I'll get picks and start another thread on that soon. He assures me it is all done to the "letter of the law." Given his record though... I'm wondering.
In the meantime, anyone want to point me in the direction of who the hell I contact at the council to see if I have a leg to stand on???
I'm also concurring going full fight bastard with bastard anyway if only because I am certain he only moved the gene in an attempt to buy him and his daughter more time to get the balcony etc finished. It had occurred to me that as well as tresspass he has omitted to replace the (admittedly shonky) wheel inn.fence that belonged to us... I'm guessing that could constitute criminal damage and theft too...? I don't care what they're will be no prosecution.for it, it's a crime reference number of nothing else.
You can all blame Cougar for potentially making me mote militant.😉 His fight bastard with bastard comment really stuck in my head.
Edit: Ran out of time to correct last paragraph or so of many predictive errors.
"I’m also considering going full fight bastard with bastard anyway if only because I am certain he only moved the fence in an attempt to buy him and his daughter more time to get the balcony etc finished. It has occurred to me that as well as trespass he has omitted to replace the (admittedly shonky) chain link fence that belonged to us… I’m guessing that could constitute criminal damage and theft too…? I don’t care that there will be no prosecution for it (bloody doubt it anyway)but it’s a crime reference number if nothing else.
You can all blame Cougar for potentially making me more militant.😉 His fight bastard with bastard comment really stuck in my head. Unfortunately I think I took good advice too late."
To add:
For those that think me amazingly tolerant/gullible ive seldom met people like this. No really. I tend to assume most people in life are fundamentally ok and I'm glad to be proven right most of the time. I made a bad error of judgment on this one though.
That said, if this whole concrete balcony/ wall thing turns out to be to the "letter of the law" then at least I will know I couldn't have prevented it anyway. We'll see.
Page 12 "daylight and sunlight" yes it's Scotland but I'm sure similar will be doon sooth.
It has occurred to me that as well as trespass he has omitted to replace the (admittedly shonky) chain link fence that belonged to us
Do you actually want it though (isn't there a wooden fence there in it's place now)? One of my neighbours (newly moved in) replaced a wooden fence I'd put up a few years ago with one about a foot taller, seemed a waste of money to me and it irked me a bit they hadn't at least asked me about it first but at the end of the day I had a slightly newer fence (of at least the same quality) on the boundary line and at no expense to me so I just let it go.
Sounds like the balcony thing is definitely an issue (I thought there were laws about blocking sunlight but I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will come along shortly). But if you're thinking about reporting the chain link fence as a way to get back at him I'm not sure that's the right way to go (and not a good use of police time), if you genuinely want the old fence back to re-purpose then fair enough (although have you asked the neighbour where it is?).