Well this shakes things up a bit.. Craig Charles taking over from Keaveny in afternoons, Iggy moving to the weekends, BUT 2 hours less RadMac...
Weekday afternoons is a bit of a weird time for Craig Charles IMO, but maybe I struggle associating him with anything other than his party sets. I enjoyed it when he sat in for Keaveny (? - or was it the morning show) a while back. Thankfully the F&S show is staying, had me worried for a second.
Iggy on Sunday afternoon is weird too, definitely better on Friday evening.
Weekday RadMac is a big miss for me. Less weekend RadMac is not good.
Hang on, better check with @brant whether Craig Charles is black enough given he's not even female...
Weekday afternoons is a bit of a weird time for Craig Charles IMO, but maybe I struggle associating him with anything other than his party sets. I enjoyed it when he sat in for Keaveny (? – or was it the morning show) a while back
He sat in for Lamacq during first lockdown. It worked well and he genuinely seemed to be enjoying himself the whole time, unlike Keveney whose schtick seems to be that he'd rather be anywhere else (or perhaps he'd just rather be anywhere else). Most DJs have a mainstream radio best before date. It's not unusual. The ones that stay sounding fresh for decades are a rarity.
Iggy's show will work equally well on a Sunday afternoon (its a pre record anyway and it's on Sounds so nothing to stop you listening a week later on Friday night if that's what floats your boat)
Don't understand what's going on with RadMac, but perhaps the love for them here isn't reflected in audience figures. I can understand them not wanting an early start on weekends but I still rate them as probably the best, and most knowledgable, broadcasters on the station = a shame they couldn't have kept going until 11 each day.
I love the CC F&S Show, and like CC generally, but six days a week?
I hope he manages to stay fresh and focused for his Saturday evening belters.
I wonder with RadMac if it by their request? Radcliffe had his cancer diagnosis and recovery and in current times, maybe they want to scale back.
If sex and colour don't matter a jot, why are the BBC prioritising both of those over ability and experience?
And it's not just the BBC.
... middle-aged middle class white guys being such a discriminated against and disempowered group? Bait, Shirley?
He sat in for Lamacq during first lockdown
That was what I was thinking of. Yeah, I thought he was really good. Wasn't sure how well his personality would translate from party set to drivetime DJ, but worked really well.
Craig Charles has stood in for Steve Wright on R2 a number of times, he was good. I'm not sure 5 days a week and twice on a Saturday will be a good thing though.
Just switched 6 on for the first time this week.
Second song to come on- Chez Longue
Back to Spotify..
Just switched 6 on for the first time this week.
Second song to come on- Chez Longue
Why do people still act surprised about hearing songs on the playlist a lot?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5JDPyPdDGs3yCLdtPhGgWM7/bbc-radio-6-music-playlist
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio/entries/df07a250-5626-37a8-b374-57c15f0f6f31
I'm well aware of the playlist. Even before I was aware of how explicitly it's defined, I could tell which times of day were subject to it. Maybe I'm imagining it, but sometimes I think you can hear a note of frustration in some DJs' voices at having to play a playlist track, again.
Interesting to read that blog about it. I still can't see the point in it, and don't think it really offers any strong arguments in favour of it TBH. When I hear a new track I like on the radio, it more often than not gets ruined by being completely overplayed.
Why do people still act surprised about hearing songs on the playlist a lot?
I'm not surprised I'm just bored and disappointed by it. Even if you like a song on Monday morning you'll be bloody sick of it by Friday afternoon.
Well I hope at least we get a daily trunk of punk.
I’m finding the best way to listen at the moment is on Sounds on delay. I usually start listening to Chris Hawkins’ 5 am show at 7 and carry on through the morning. Gives me the option of fast forwarding anything I don’t want to hear.
Won’t work for everyone though I know.
I was very 6 Music until a few years ago, it's mostly Radcliffes fault for introducing me to WFMU (Great station in a very random way) once ween'd off R6 I found NTS, love this station, Weatherall's monthly residency was my highlight, I still listen back to his old shows on Mixcloud now, David Holmes, Fourtet, Erol Alkan do a decent job of filling the space left
Charlie Bones in the morning has pretty much got me through WFH lockdown, and has also introduced me to Limmy 'shes turned the we'ans against me!'
I lasted about 10 minutes of Cairney this morning. It has to be pretty bad for me to actively turn the radio off, but I find her annoying beyond belief. And she's on for FOUR HOURS this morning. Will investigate some of the other recommendations after my meeting this morning.
Maybe I’m imagining it, but sometimes I think you can hear a note of frustration in some DJs’ voices at having to play a playlist track, again.
Huey in particular. He dislikes the new Sault track so much he played the instrumental last weekend
Fully agree on getting tired of stuff too but every station with a playlist is the same. Though not a problem if you’re in the majority who listen less frequently/ for less time.
I listened to NTS earlier and the scouse presenter (MAKKKA?) said FFS live on air / line. I was horrified and now feel sullied.
Huey in particular. He dislikes the new Sault track so much he played the instrumental last weekend
Hmm. I thought Sault were great when I first came across them, but now I get the feeling they’re just playing the same track over and over and just changing the words.
I listened to NTS earlier and the scouse presenter (MAKKKA?) said FFS live on air / line. I was horrified and now feel sullied.
Yeah, they don't have too many rules, at times the one DJ will just play on in the hope the next person arrives in the next 15-20 minutes...the swearings not big or clever but it's mostly run by under 30s and half the time it's just like them speaking to their mates, there's no cut off. The contents usually ok though and I'm not playing it out to granny in the living room
Giles Peterson's Worldwide radio is my other go to when NTS gets a bit too grime.
If Keaveney's gone then I've gone.
Don't understand the hate.... he was the best thing on six.
I've found it unlistenable today, Gemma cairney is really annoying and the music in particular has been toss
I've nothing to turn it over to so just turned it down.
I'm too much of a miserable middle aged man to not be annoyed when the DJ whoops about people going to latitude festival or plays a PJ Harvey song and goes 'sing it PJ!!!!'
I might just have it put whale music or headspace on instead, might get some work done then
TBF the fact that latitude is happening is quite exciting, in normal times I would not be seen dead there, but at the moment I am rather jealous.
Yeah latitude going ahead is great and I hope it all goes well, it's more the DJ being so giddy about that and other stuff. But that's DJing I guess
That's why SK was such a breath of stale air
Just playing 'sugar kane' so all is forgiven
Switched the radio on in the kitchen this morning as per, even though it was just gone 7.30, so into the Cairney zone. Heard about 5 seconds of Chaise Longue, switched it off again. Too much for Monday morning. I'm now on WFMU again - had it on last week and the early morning show (8-11 our time) was great. All got a bit weird when the DJ came on at 11 and I felt like I was in Grand Theft Auto.
Laziness is the basic problem. I want to just switch the radio on and have something to listen to, not find a device, find a stream to listen to, and plug it into a speaker of some sort.
Chooooooon.
Have to say I've been listening to 6 Music a lot less of late, but just tuned in to SK's show this afternoon and heard Katy J Pearson's "Take back the radio" for the first time. Utterly brilliant. Going to give it a go again now, hoping there are a few more "what was that..?" moments
katy j pearson's great, i might buy her album. Its on 'Heavenly' records so even better. I loved her last single, 'miracle'
im enjoying the 'Goat' song just cos nice to hear some wah wah guitar fret****ery on the radio
he played an extended version of 'cold sweat' this afternoon which was particularly enjoyable.
im enjoying the ‘Goat’ song just cos nice to hear some wah wah guitar fret****ery on the radio
Yeah the Goat track was great, got the bass off the wall hanger to play along with that one (it's been a while)! Had also forgotten what a good song "Cosmic Girl" is by Jamiroquai (Stuart Zender, great bassplayer...)...Funky Frank's Friday Floorfillers. I might miss SK after all
There's been a new head of Radio 6 since last August (Samantha Moy), which is why we have been seeing all the changes. She started her career at Kiss FM, which goes a long way to explaining the thinking behind all the new DJs
Ravers standing in for Lamacq this week has been brilliant and I like Lamacq.
Quite happy to listen to 6m all day, except for SK, when I switch to R4 for the Archers and Gardener's World. Horses for courses.
Oh and I though Gemma Cairney was great too.
Are any of these 'stations' that people are recommending actual analogue/DAB? Ie, not internet?
I only really listen to 6M as I have a DAB/Analogue radio at work. Its the best I've found so far. Sure, if I had an interpipe I could listen to my own preferred micro-niche genre of dance music with no talking/adverts for 24 hours a day. But until then...
Non-internet recommendations? NO ADS, and waffle to the bare minimum.
Ego fm... Sun Station. Or Soul, but Sun is pretty good. No news. No talking.
I like Gemma cairney too. I didn't really like her one off shows, somehow I thought she came across as a bit try-hard. But in the breakfast slot she seems like a genuine cheery soul and that's what I need as I struggle towards consciousness at 8am. I'm a fan now.
I wasn't sure about Jamz Supernova at first either, as some of the current generation of soulful RnB gets a bit dull. But now I find my Saturdays grind to a halt around 2pm as I find various excuses to sit in the living room and listen to the rest of her show. The other week she played about 40 straight minutes of Baltimore Club music. On national radio in the middle of the day. That's the kind of nonsense I am very much here for 😀
Who is this ‘Jez Longe’? Is he Keavenys replacement?
Anyway, 6music just sounds waaay too nice at the moment. Not always a bad thing, but on most dab radios, it can sound like elevator muzak. Very polite. And the sunday vibe on 6msic feels like ‘Bagpuss’.
Now and again, they play some rowdy tunes. But it mostly sounds like a tick-box of punk cliches: mockney; poorly played instruments; hysterical, over-zealous and out of tune vocals.
When the punks got to grips with their instruments, they channelled that aggression, and heavy metal (and goth) came into being.
We’re missing a big chunk of music history by denying airplay to the likes of napalm death, carcass, and amebix.
Not only that, but the royalties accrued by a band are in part calculated by the amount of airtime they receive.
So, by feathering the nest for the (cartel?) of artists who’ve had already received a fair slice of the pie (Bowie, Bowie, Bowie, the Rolling Stones, and Nick Lowe), 6music are crowding-out other, more deserving artists from their hard-earned investment.
The bbc used to run tv adverts about how they were bringing in lots of fresh talent, but it’s still the same bunch of presenters on 6music.
I’d rather 6music played more up-and-coming artists and got their weekday daytime presenters to hone their recommendations.
As for bbc radio services, they used to run tv adverts about how great the switch to DAB transmissions would be (more stations to choose from).
But, like the mobile phone companies, they are only transmitting on their own masts.
So, the signal on your radio is fine until you start listening to a dab station on a mobile device (whether a portable dab player, or in your car), as he radio signal can vary according to your proximity to the dab mast.
If all the dab stations got together (a cartel?), and agree to transmit each others stations, the benefits for the listener would be tremendous. There’s more than enough bandwidth for this to become feasible.
I was going to email this suggestion to OFCOM, but they only correspond by telephone, and the ‘cap’ where my tooth used to be has fallen out, so…
Speaking of bandwidth, if theres enough of it, why is bbc ‘radio1dance’ not yet available on dab?
As someone who tries to play a musical instrument, I think that the bbc needs another dab station that plays an DJ-free selection of music that encourages people to pick up their guitar, use, synth, clarinet and play along. Kind of like the ‘rag-time’ of yore, but minus the actual printed copy.
Just like the trades unions were the conveyor belt to global communism, the bbc owes it to the music industry by sowing the seeds of the next generation of artists by encouraging us all to articulate our skills on our musical instruments. And these artists make a tonne of money for UK PLC.
So, music like the cures ‘killing an Arab’, ‘seedy films’ by soft cell, and loads of heavy metal (for the guitar solos).
Jazz too, and the classical music without the pomp. Keep it lean and keep it moving.
They could even call the station ‘7music. For players’.
Pretentious, Moi?
You are over thinking it
Correction: ‘tin-pan alley’ instead of ‘ragtime’🤪
And the sunday vibe on 6msic feels like ‘Bagpuss’.
listen to radmac on a weekend and you would probably hear that actually 😁
@zippykona thank you for this!! I'm getting too old for daytime 6 Music..
Try this https://radio.nme.com/
Listening to nme 1 and apart from the lottery advert and the occasional hippity hop pity song it’s not annoyed me.
did anyone hear the final Shaun K show today? I was pretty moved by it, especially his last chat with Matt Everitt on Thursday and then his final address just now, he pretty much revealed that he'd been forced to go I think - I can't remember the exact words and it wasn't delivered in a DLT bitter tirade at all. Hes a class act after all. It was pretty emotional
given the continued employment of Liz Kershaw I thought BBC radio jocks were unsackable; they just get shunted and shunted into minor slots or dodgy times until they get the hint. Perhaps thats what happened with SK
Im a huge huge fan of Shaun K, and im in good company given the outpouring of affection for SK. I'll genuinely miss him and my weekdays will definitely be different now.
