What an utter load of rollocks!
their biggest claim to fame in F1 came from sticking their name on someone else’s engine
TBF, the Ford-Cosworth collaboration worked really well. Building F1 engines needs a specialist department with its own facilities. Ford did an excellent job of branding with Cosworth, with high performance Fords using Cosworth developed engines. The Cosworth name just became associated with Ford performance cars, like AMG with Merc or Schnitzer with BMW. Merc initially used Ilmor to build its F1 engines, then took over the project. The Chevy Indycar engine is built by Ilmor. The Honda and Renault engines both got spun off into independent divisions (Mugen and Mecacrome/Supertec) and then taken back. Mugen is owned by the son of Soichiro Honda. Mechachrome built Renault engines right from the start, the only change was whether Renault was paying to put its name on the rocker covers.
How's the Ford branding going to work with Red Bull using Honda engines still next year? They are still using a Honda engine aren't they?
How’s the Ford branding going to work with Red Bull using Honda engines still next year? They are still using a Honda engine aren’t they?
It's for 2026
Sigh - Williams go for another 'livery launch' on last year's car and the livery isn't really that different to the 2022 car, just with added 'Gulf' stickers. Dullest pre-season ever so far.
TBH I think they'd get more media & fan interest in these if they ran a one off livery for the first test then did the full reveal of the 2023 look on the 2023 car between the test and the first race, though I expect logistics would make that tricky.
I see Horner's off on one already, talking about everything bad about their "handicap" and how they are having to deal with it, and big 'ol Mercedes and Ferrari will beat the up
Poor cheating bastards Red Bull.
Williams go for another ‘livery launch’ on last year’s car and the livery isn’t really that different to the 2022 car, just with added ‘Gulf’ stickers. Dullest pre-season ever so far.
I really don't understand why people even bother to follow the launches. No team is going to show their real car until the first test, this is just a sponsor event to show off the stickers on a mock up of a generic car.
I see Horner’s off on one already, talking about everything bad about their “handicap” and how they are having to deal with it, and big ‘ol Mercedes and Ferrari will beat the up
It'll be fun seeing Horner combust if Mercedes are a second a lap faster in the first test. And that they really did know where they had gone wrong with last years car!
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-significant-handicap-aero-testing/10428302/
And this seasons aero testing allocation...
No team is going to show their real car until the first test,
I’m not even sure you see the real car then. Merc didn’t show it’s no sidepod design until the second test
Round of applause for whoever came up with the Duracell logo placement.
They did that last season too! Seems no one noticed though! 🤣
So the "handicap" is actually an attempt to correct for their advantage gained by cheating? Not sure I'm feeling that sympathetic tbh
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Yay - a different livery on a car that is visibly different to last year's car. Yes it will have some different bits on when it rolls out for testing, but it's a start.
I thought the 'blade' roll hoops were banned this year? After Zhou's Silverstone crash.
Not banned, just a few extra design specs compared to 2022:
Why Alfa Romeo has kept its blade roll hoop on 2023 F1 car (motorsport.com)
That alfa looks amazingly cool from above
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Ive never really seen the point of these launch events. They must cost a fortune to make a set of panels that wont ever see a track and paint it just to show briefly. I bet the only bits that stay the same are the wheels, steering wheel and seat
The show cars get trotted off all round the world for different events. Especially the sort of events where an F1 car might impress, but noone is looking too closely
Aye - and you can buy this one!… 🤣🤣
You’d need a big space to hang it!
All I need is EUR75,001 and this could be my fourth Alfa Romeo. The missus is keen to have a go.
You’d need a big space to hang it!
mount it upside down on the ceiling. obviously, you’d need high ceilings or you’d cut your scalp on the wing
mount it upside down on the ceiling. obviously, you’d need high ceilings or you’d cut your scalp on the wing
If it was going fast enough you wouldn't need to mount it
If it was going fast enough you wouldn’t need to mount it
Exactly. Just put a conveyer belt on the ceiling and the car's downforce will be enough to keep it in place.
What a mess
Mohammed Ben Sulayem to step back from direct Formula 1 involvement - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/64572992
What a mess
Mohammed Ben Sulayem to step back from direct Formula 1 involvement - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/64572992
Yesterdays news! 🤣
Todays WTF news…
https://the-race.com/formula-1/initial-contact-made-over-possible-mclaren-honda-f1-reunion/
What a mess
Mohammed Ben Sulayem to step back from direct Formula 1 involvement
Believe the phrase is “back in your box”
The FIAs roll is about rules and regulations not commercial agreements
Wow, Honda are almost at Alonso levels of bad career decisions and timings!
Alfa Romeo out at Barcelona today for a shakedown
https://twitter.com/alfaromeof1/status/1623987384714162177
Unsurprisingly, the sides of the floor on that Sauber (Alfa) are completely different to those on the launch renders... I quite liked the gappy blunt-toothed look of the render, woudl never be effective in teh real world though!
I'm sure Alonso gave a cheeky wink at the end of that comment.
Expecting him to completely destroy Lance this season.
Red Bull caught pretending to be the new kid in school... 🙂
https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-mercedes-audi-stop-red-bull/
Seems everyone is copying Red Bull sidepods - McLaren now. Be interesting to see if Ferrari and Merc stick to their concepts…
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mclaren-launches-mcl60-f1-2023-car/
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1625181907985088527/photo/1
Yes was going to comment on the convergence we seem to be seeing - it'll be interesting to see what they all look like on the last day of testing. It's a tough call for merc - a change to rbr/ferrari style sidepods leaves them with a lot of learning to do but it's proven to be effective, whereas they've had a painful year learning about their current concept but it didn't deliver race winning pace (yeah OK) let alone title contention. But if they have learnt what wasn't working and can fix it...
Another Red Bull clone! 😴😴😴
https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/13/first-pictures-aston-martin-reveals-genuine-amr23/
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