Ricciardo out with a broken hand. Lawson to step in.
Albon looking impressive in FP sessions, Maclaren looking quick too, upgrades seem to working at all tracks.
Looking forward to seeing Liam Lawson, be good to see him in the second Red Bull instead of Checo.
Expecting lots of Orange this weekend
SO will the race be worth watching or just a two hour procession followed by the Dutch national anthem?
Think there will be some interesting battle's going on, but from second position down the rest of the field.
And yes the Dutch national anthem will be played.
Yawn. Snooze time 🙂
As much as I like Danny Ric I feel it's time for him to move to another series. He's not shown great pace since his comeback (certainly not enough to be alongside Max). And he forgot rule No.1 of crashing a car - 'take your hands off the steering wheel!'.
Good luck to Liam Lawson - the top team may need you quicker than you thought! Yuki, Checo, Ricciardo are all just OK drivers.
I don't think many people with real knowledge of drivers' abilities would lump Riciardo in with Perez and Tsunoda
Sergeant has made a mess of that Williams!
Leclerc has binned it now
Nice work by Albon 👍
I don’t think many people with real knowledge of drivers’ abilities would lump Riciardo in with Perez and Tsunoda
No comparision in his prime - but he’s lost something and I can’t see what Red Bull will gain by swapping him for Perez.
They want a clear number 2 and Perez is filling that role.
They want a clear number 2 and Perez is filling that role.
I think they would prefer him to be closer to MV in case something goes wrong and act as a buffer. Ronnie Peterson was the best number 2 driver, he finished the race on Mario Andretti's gearbox.
Checo being put back in his box - Red Bull don’t want anyone who can actually race Max.
So race stopped because those on inters were aquaplaning when full wets were needed?
No because a car was in the direct firing line of a 200kmph aquaplaning straight.
The progressive elimination of any form of jeopardy has killed this sport (responding Big Dean rather than Kryton)
So you would like to go back to the days when drivers were killed regularly? Its hard to remember now but a deaths each season was considered normal
Alex did a good job again.
Did Mercedes hire any Ferrari strategists? 🤔
Jeopardy doesn’t need to involve death but we’re getting to the point where unless conditions are perfect they don’t race. The very best racers always shone when it was wet because it served as a leveller.
No because a car was in the direct firing line of a 200kmph aquaplaning straight.
Yeah I did spot the stranded car after i'd posted. The barrier was damaged/ disturbed and you needed the race stopping to protect the crew to fix it which was fair enough.
But I am a little fed up with stoppages unless it's marginal for inters.
Am I imagining it or was there a time when you had to go to wets? (Or was that just for starts?).
It was mentioned in the spa commentary "I don't know why we have wets, no one uses them as the teams & drivers moan and delay the start till you can use inters","if you can use inters it's not a wet race".
I also want to punch the stupid mascot that got air time, it's not the NFL.
Perhaps am just grumpy but it didn't seem a good race.
Even allowing for the Red Bull dominance, for all their efforts on technical specs, the use of street circuits and short courses and this seeming need to keep re-setting races is killing F1 as a sporting spectacle.
Am I imagining it or was there a time when you had to go to wets? (Or was that just for starts?).
It's mandatory to use wets for a safety car restart except for this race they amended the rules to let them start on inters as the pitlane is so tight that it couldn't cope with 20 cars following the safety car into the pitlane to switch to inters.
Chris medland reporting that logan sergeant lost power steering/hydraulics before his crash. Shame, a wasted weekend after he did well to get into Q3.
Did Mercedes hire any Ferrari strategists?
nah, they were still there, forgetting to mention to the pit crew to bring out tyres for pit stops…
this seeming need to keep re-setting races is killing F1 as a sporting spectacle.
i agree. though if the race hadn’t been red flagged on sunday there would have been a pileup.
the american audience likes a restart. let’s just hope they don’t all start crashing on the restart like they often do in indy cars. that said, i like indy cars. when the race goes well, it is very entertaining
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Odd for RaceFans website - they're not normally first with F1 news.
Not even the gossip-mongers that are PlanetF1 are reporting it. 🙂
It also says Canada though which was a couple of months ago!
Can someone please explain why Pirelli are required to make a full wet if they are never allowed to race when it would be used.
Not even the gossip-mongers that are PlanetF1 are reporting it.
Yeah, PlanetF1 love a bit of gossip!
https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-rumour-agreements-separation-sergio-perez-red-bull/
chrismac
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Can someone please explain why Pirelli are required to make a full wet if they are never allowed to race when it would be used.
So that they don't crash under the safety car.
Everyone hates the full wet tyre as it's uniformly slower in all conditions in which the intermediate might be usable, even if only for a portion of the lap. It also creates even more spray than the inters and makes it almost impossible for the drivers to see. This is part of the reason we don't see full wet racing anymore.
I thought 'wets' were now known as 'SC Tyres'
These cars aren't well suited to wet racing at all. Too much spray sent upwards. Plus increasing the diameter of the tyre to avoid aquaplaning on the plank reduces the downforce from the floor.
One thing I think that could help is using track sweepers like in indycar whenever there is a red flag period, so that they don't go back out straight into standing water.
Extreme Wets are so 1990's! 🙂
It's Super Intermediates now...
Yeah, PlanetF1 love a bit of gossip!
sounds more like Ralph making shit up to get internet space
LOL - Aston have got the feelers out for next season! Remember where you heard the Lewis to Aston theory first!!*... 🤣🤣🤣
...or it could be Leclerc to Aston and Lewis in red. I'd so love to see him in red. Do it Lewis, do it! 🙂
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*see previous page!
Does anyone really want Leclerc at the moment? He seems to be unable to find the limit and stay at it. The sheer number of crashes this year must be causing headaches at Ferrari.
[i] He seems to be unable to find the limit and stay at it. The sheer number of crashes this year must be causing headaches at Ferrari.[/i]
He regularly finds the limit. Just behind him on the left normally.
I think the rest of the team are quite relieved as it takes the attention off their 'inspired' strategy decisions.
Ferrari take note, that's how you do a one-off livery for the Italian GP
Teams always seem to make a big thing about these one off liveries but they're usually just a bit meh.
The only one I can think of that I'd want to see again was...
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They're all a ruddy mess in this era. Even that Gulf one was a bit of a mess - the matt paint didn't help either.
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Full MemberTeams always seem to make a big thing about these one off liveries but they’re usually just a bit meh.
The only one I can think of that I’d want to see again was…
Wasn't keen on that myself, the blue looked white on tv and the orange looked flat as a fart. Shame because it looked great in the photos when they announced it.
I'm obsessed with the Alfa though, gonna have to post another pic 😍
Teams always seem to make a big thing about these one off liveries but they’re usually just a bit meh
Agreed, trying to think of a single properly good one. I remember when RB announced the white Honda livery they were going to run . . . and then ruined that too
New F2 car for 2024 - rear wing styled by 12 yr old winner of MaxPower crayoning competition. 🤦♂️
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It looks good on the whole, the rear wing is a bit interesting.
Here's the theory behind it:
Can't say I'm a huge fan of increasing how effective DRS is.
