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Err, when he rammed Hamilton in Italy 2021
Wasn’t really thinking of when he just rammed someone off the track
Not really seeing the problem. . .
“Will.i.am is now conducting an orchestra on the grid before the drivers are introduced on the grid by LL Cool J. That's F1 in 2023.”
What a crock of s……
This is why I’m glad they put a differentiator in from the build up show and the race on the coverage. Particularly for the ‘Mercian rounds.
Also, you can normally tell just how much of a shit Americans really give about a sporting event, based on the cost of the military hardware involved in the fly past. There wasn’t one…
…can you imagine what Vegas is going to be like! 😱😱
Verstappen on hards - this could be a good crash!
This circuit really is up there with fine finest US car park circuits of the past!!! 😴😴😴
I question how Verstappen - with 2/3rds of the aero dev - can be that much faster than everybody. Kinda defies belief now.
Better catering - feeds the brain!
I don’t think I’ve ever been more disappointed in F1. Sad days for the sport.
Seems to be more action here than in Baku, but yeah, street circuits are shit. Doesnt matter what the layout is, because they are used for racing once a year, it’s one line, so it’s only possible to overtake on the straights on DRS. Fingers crossed for a dingdong when MV catches SP after his stop, and comes off second 😈
I question how Verstappen – with 2/3rds of the aero dev – can be that much faster than everybody. Kinda defies belief now.
Is that from the cheating the budget cap limit? If it wass that won't effect it at all for quite some time, if at all IMHO.
The thing is RB have a great car and base to work from, its locked into development path that will just motor on and on. It's something that won't change until the new rule change now IMHO. They know the base of it inside out and know what every single bit will do when it's put on the car.
Yep. RB will have known MVs strategy was the faster of the two. Urgh.
Jeez, McLaren had a weekend to forget out there.
RB will have known MVs strategy was the faster of the two
I heard it explained twice that Perez had to go out on the Medium at the start because those around him were too.
Well - what can you say.
Hope Liberty are satisfied with the show.
I heard it explained twice that Perez had to go out on the Medium at the start because those around him were too.
DRS would have seen to them fairly quickly.
I heard it explained twice that Perez had to go out on the Medium at the start because those around him were too.
Yet is was different for a Verstappen because…?
Hope Liberty are satisfied with the show.
The did have ll cool j, William and women in lycra at the start.
apart from the predictable 1-2 i quite enjoyed it, Maggo was doing a great job. Shame it's all drs though.
Wonder what Piastri's thinking right now watching Gasly and Ocon in the top 10 from his p19. I know he had a long brake pedal but that car is shit.
Wonder what Piastri’s thinking right now watching Gasly and Ocon in the top 10 from his p19. I know he had a long brake pedal but that car is shit.
Probably similar to what Ocon and Gasly were thinking last race? Or in Australia?
RickDraper
Probably similar to what Ocon and Gasly were thinking last race? Or in Australia?
Can you show your working there?
Perez stitched up
The only reason that Verstappen wasn't on pole was Leclec's crash. He was 1/2 second faster than Perez and a second faster than everyone else all weekend. RB didn't really need to "stitch anything up"
From what i got from the race was as Max was trying to catch up to Checco
Max receievd loads of info on what lap he will catch Checco, on, what the gap to Checco will be after his pitstop, what condition Perez's tyres were in etc..
Yet as far as i can remember Checco recieved no info on what was happening with Max, how far away he was, what lap he would catch Checco etc...
Maybe we just didnt hear Checco's radio or Redbull wanted to keep him in the dark? or i just fell asleep and missed it!
I'm pretty confident if you listen to the full radios (they're usually posted on YouTube), Perez will have got updates. More made-up nonsense.
As above, Perez was in the lead, he didn't require the same type of info, the reality is that Verstappen was just the fastest and had a good race. It's been the same setup in F1 since it began in terms of drivers though, you have your drivers in order, the only time that order changes is if their performances point to this, and Verstappen is still the fastest by a good margin.
More
made-up nonsense.
Anthony Davidson confirmed it just before the final overtake.
He confirmed RB manipulated the result by not keeping one of their drivers updated with key info? Or observed that one of the radios was quieter? Radios are two-way AFAIK. If Perez needed some info, he would have asked.
Can you show your working there?
Well Australia double DNF for Alpine, Baku 14th and 15th. Hardly a massive difference between the two teams is it.
The only reason that Verstappen wasn’t on pole was Leclec’s crash. He was 1/2 second faster than Perez and a second faster than everyone else all weekend. RB didn’t really need to “stitch anything up”
All true, but nonetheless it seemed interesting to start Perez on the mediums given that even if he had lost a place at the start, the RB has such a pace advantage that he’d be back in the lead by the first shot at DRS at the lates, and—more notably—that Verstappen was pretty much nailed-on to be in P2 at the stops. The inevitable result would be Perez in front on hards and Verstappen behind on mediums with no cars between them, and that was only ever going to end one way. I concede from the team’s point of view they took the safest strategy overall, but from Perez’s side of the garage it gave him the mucky end of the stick.
Yet as far as i can remember Checco recieved no info on what was happening with Max, how far away he was, what lap he would catch Checco etc…
So how come when Verstappen put in the fastest lap just before his stop, Perez responded by beating it on the next lap? At the end of the day, Perez just wasn’t on a winning strategy unless they put Verstappen on the same one. I don’t think there was much he could have done in the circumstances. Nice bit of defending when Max did catch him, though.
Everyones forgetting about the SC risk.
It was a street circuit, so that risk was high.
Had one been use in the first 10 laps Checco could have switched to the hards, but Max wouldnt have been able to make the mediums last for the rest of the race, which would have pushed him onto a 2 stop race.
Max and Red Bull have so much pace over everyone else, that he can start anywhere and win.
Its a bit embarrassing for the rest of the grid.
Just watched the highlights on YouTube, some nice overtakes, but all assisted by DRS.
As for the strategy, certainly suited MV better than Checo. But starting on pole Checo would have been hindered by starting on the hard.
Just watched the highlights on YouTube, some nice overtakes,
Sadly mostly by Verstappen.
Alonso looks like the happiest man on the planet at the moment.
Alonso looks like the happiest man on the planet at the moment.
4 podiums from 6 races shows it's not just one line lucky race things are really coming together for him.
The did have ll cool j, William and women in lycra at the start.
I did think 'oh are grid girls acceptable again?' things really seem to be going backwards in America at the moment.
RickDraper
Well Australia double DNF for Alpine, Baku 14th and 15th. Hardly a massive difference between the two teams is it.
- Australia double DNF was driver error, nothing to do with the pace of the car
- Baku was an oil leak and subsequent driver error for Gasly due to lack of practice, Ocon had a setup mistake they needed to correct meaning he started from the pit, followed by a gamble on tyres which didn't pay off.
The Alpine though seems a fundamentally decent car and the upgrades are bringing good improvements.
Besides neither Gasly or Ocon had the opportunity to drive for mclaren! Piastri did however have the chance to drive for Alpine, but pied them off for Macca 🤦🏻♂️
Mclaren are underdelivering (again). What's that now, 8 out of the last 10 seasons? This is Mclaren for Senna's sake. They should be racing for wins not 17th.
That said I am hopeful Andrea Stella will get it turned around. He seems pretty sensible. But the car just isn't working at the moment.
Was an impressive race for reliability and drivers not wrecking cars. Can’t remember the stats for 100% finishing.
Brundles grid walk was amusing, especially when Jackie Stewart waded into the VVIP area to fetch the tennis bloke.
The race itself was ok, they can’t all be edge of the seat stuff, but entertaining enough despite the Red Bulls clear advantage, much like some other eras.
4 podiums from 6 races
Did you get a private race that we didn’t? 😉
Seems that Otmar may be living on borrowed time. It’s fairly noticeable that the upturn in the fortunes of the team he left are mirrored by the downturn in those of the team he joined. Never mind the whole Piastri balls-up…
but nonetheless it seemed interesting to start Perez on the mediums
I think all the pre-race data suggested that the fastest race would be meds-hard, but after the rain from the night before, I think it became really obvious that the hard were (after a couple of laps of degradation) faster than the meds, and they were degrading faster than expected with a full fuel load. I don't think RB made the decision to mess up Perez' s race, it was effecting the Ferrari also.
Verstappen's win was combo of being on the faster tyre in the fastest car, and one of the best drivers on the grid. Quality will out.
If you’ve got time to kill on a wet BH Monday then WEC from Spa provided some cracking racing - well worth a watch…
Bez
Did you get a private race that we didn’t? 😉
Seems that Otmar may be living on borrowed time. It’s fairly noticeable that the upturn in the fortunes of the team he left are mirrored by the downturn in those of the team he joined. Never mind the whole Piastri balls-up…
Rossi sure is an arrogant arse, Prost had his number alright.
Prediction: Otmar will be made the fall guy and the problems will continue.
Saw this doing the rounds on Twitter - story has gone mainstream now though...
the-muffin-man
Full MemberSaw this doing the rounds on Twitter – story has gone mainstream now though…
Yeah I mean not an ideal start but it would be extremely harsh to ditch him without letting him have a full season to settle in. This is Franz Tost and Hulmut Marko we're talking about however so who knows.