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Yeah just heard him saying it’s not safe
However, the regs clearly dictate the two separate impact structures
Like the side impact structures sticking out of the car!?
And the fact they have to pass FIA crash tests!?
It's bloody great though isn't it! I was really worried F1 2022 would be Indycar style spec series. 🙂
Red Bull boss Christian Horner via Auto Motor und Sport: “The new Mercedes violates the spirit of the regulations. For us, there are some parts that are not legal.”
No Karen, the rules are being applied correctly but just in a way that's different to how they've been applied before. Surely that's all perfectly OK?
[i]Yeah just heard him saying it’s not safei[/i]
Everyone ones that having a faster car in among slower traffic is potentially unsafe. haven't y seen the road safety adverts
Also, he doesn't specify what it makes unsafe - perhaps the Red Bull chances of victory?
Just because he is a whinging sack of piss doesn't mean you should be nasty about the drivelling Karen. That little tosspot is a valued member of the F1 team.
Just thought someone on here ought to stand up for him 🙂
Can't see any mega upgrades from anyone else. Just incremental bits from the first test.
Although Hamilton is last 4.5 seconds off the pace currently
I imagine they are data collecting still on the new shape.
Horner is a prize ^%$£"
I imagine they are data collecting still on the new shape.
A bit of that, but it's still bouncing and they'd taped up the gills/louvres/whatevers on the side pods for some laps and that came off...So far Mercedes are having a bit of a trial. Plus like a lot of teams (except AR I think) the Merc is overweight currently (and one of the heaviest I think) Some teams have got some serious weight to shed. It could be that the new design is predominantly because of that
For gods sake, we really have to listen to him whining again all year about everything thats not fair for Red Bull, don't we
Red Bull isn't happy with some comments attributed to its team boss Christian Horner by Auto Motor und Sport about the Mercedes potentially breaching the regulations.
A spokesperson from the team said: “Christian Horner has not given any interviews regarding Mercedes’ car. Any quotes being attributed to him this morning are incorrect.”
So did he say it? I'm at work so not watching.
So he is now complaining about articles about him complaining.
[i]So did he say it? I’m at work so not watching.[/i]
Not sure, my brain hears his drone and switches off. I assume he was moaning about something or other and it is all not fair and not Red Bull's fault
Edd Straw
Germany's Auto Motor Und Sport, which sourced the Christian Horner quote the team has denied him giving, is adamant that it is accurate.
It's very much Red Bull's word against AMUS's. We have no evidence either way, but AMUS is a trustworthy source.
However, I'd also say that about Red Bull so take your pick.
It comes from Michael Schmidt, who's pretty much 'the word' in German F1 journalists, so it's not some fly by night trying to get some clicks
Ross Brawn is chatting to Will Buxton on the F1 test TV coverage to assess the new cars under the new rules and had this to say: "There are some very extreme interpretations of the regulations which could lead to a lot of debate. We did not anticipate the Mercedes concept."
Of the the people who should know what Merc are capable of it's Ross!
Cages have been well and truly rattled! 🙂
They ran the regulations through a couple of cycles of "try and bend the rules to get around our intent" and then adjust the rules to block that, I think. This meant these rules were more about intent for racing and they thought they had most 'extreme interpretations' covered off. Clearly not.
This meant these rules were more about intent for racing and they thought they had most ‘extreme interpretations’ covered off. Clearly not.
That's what I thought too - the intent was to limit outwash from aero devices and reduce turbulent air. And therefore go against the intent of what they are trying to achieve for closer racing.
If a car passes all crash tests then it's got to be fine to race. And I presume crash tests are done without radiators and other gubbins fitted., so these don't factor into the safety equation.
So... It transpires that Horner did say those things to Schmidt in an "extensive" interview, but now they don't want those comments out in the wild and would really like it all to go away, hence the back tracking and denial.
What a mess
I like the look of the Merc - will see how it goes though.
Could be a Merc bluff to send everyone down a rabbit hole lol
The Merc has the look of a jet-fighter about it, I like.
Aston is still the nicest! 🙂
Karen sounds very bitter....
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/christian-horner-caught-telling-lewis-070700574.html
I wish Karen would shut the **** up 😂
And Latifi's Williams has gone up in flames at the rear.
Not good, although I think they got it put out quite quickly.
Was hoping that Williams would take a real step forward this year, but issues like this won't help.
And rear brakes aren't supposed to do much on a modern F1 car. McLaren are having overheating brake trouble too.
The RaceFans pictures allow some nice side by side comparisons.
[i]overheating brake [/i]
The new regs have changed the way the brakes allow heat transfer to the wheels and tyres combined witht he changed wheels etc will make this more of an issue this year I believe
Just watching first episode of Drive to Survive.....way too much Karen talking shite so far...hope he features less in later episodes (tho I doubt it knowing how much he likes to be on camera)
And rear brakes aren’t supposed to do much on a modern F1 car.
That's a relative thing. The energy recovery from regenerative braking takes some stress off them and the front brakes do the majority of the braking, but the rear brakes will still be absorbing a massive amount of energy.
The Merc is looking bounce free on the straights
Read over on pistonheads that the Mercedes has not exceeded 295kph on the straight, in comparison to Leclerc who is hitting 320kph
I wonder how much pace they are hiding...
Read over on pistonheads that the Mercedes has not exceeded 295kph on the straight, in comparison to Leclerc who is hitting 320kph
If that is the case then they will utterly obliterate the rest of the field next weekend. And if that happens then I will look forward to Horner's post-race interviews more than the race itself.
And this comment from Sainz seems to echo the sentiment...
Mercedes - and their driver George Russell - have also said Ferrari look in the best shape is far. Sainz isn’t falling for it. “It is typical Mercedes,” he said, “typical George - hype up the others and then come to the first race and blow the competition away.
"If it was the first season they did it I would maybe believe them, but they have done it for five, six years now and they keep surprising us in the first race. So as you can imagine I don’t believe much. Already in GPS we can also see what they are doing and, yeah… I am not going to say much.”
Or as an alternative explanation - from the Autosport feed just now:
13:11 You can hear Hamilton really getting off the throttle as his Mercedes W13 begins to oscillate on the straights, bouncing along as if he's on the world's most expensive space hopper.
Nice video on the Mercedes side pods, explained by an aerodynamicist
Kato, thanks for the link. Was looking forward to seeing that guy's explanation.
Great video, thanks. So, in terms of the regs, that spar/winglet is just part of the side pod!
I think Mercedes relative lack of pace is definitely down to porpoising, rather than sandbagging. it's looked terrible at times this afternoon
Which all makes sense. If they have increased downforce but not fixed the porpoising from Barcelona then they might’ve doubled down on the problem
Horner now saying the Mercedes design is legal.
He didn’t react so well behind closed doors…
Covid for Danny Ric...
It’s not ideal, but better timing now than in the season
Ricciardo really does need practice time in the car, so this really isn't ideal for him.
Who is McLaren's reserve driver?
I wonder if the porpoising is likely to improve in race situations when following another car due to the dirty air. Obviously not a scenario for qualifying or leading a race.