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Some **** mp was on R4 earlier saying people were being snowflakes blah blah blah, and we all go on holiday to enjoy 40 degree temps. Old people survived WWII, he said, so they should have no bother with this.
I can't believe they're still allowing Jeremy Corbyn on the airwaves
TiRed yep I try keep windows shut and curtains closed when WFH and in the eve let the air through. Seems better than keeping windows open all day (southern facing)... Think you are dead right on humidity... High heat dry air seems to more cooling (I guess more evaporation?), High humidity means no escape and constant sweating with little cooling effect.
It has been near 40 here in the south of France for a week.
Last monday road ride reached 41 uphill.
Very glad we have a pool, and the river near y.
It's the nanny state gone mad, apparently. I bit like Covid I guess.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19193074/heatwave-britain-weather-warning/
His words are a perfect description of the nanny state zealots of modern Britain who can’t see a ray of sunshine without reaching for the panic button and the health emergency manual.
It's not just about warning the elderly, it's also for all those who think they know better and go out unprepared on long bike rides, or get paralytic as they "enjoy the warm weather" and collapse somewhere, or the descendants of Vikings who strip to waist when temperatures are above 20 degrees, or the employee who succumbs to dehydration in a stifling workplace environment, or all the other people who put extra pressure on the NHS through their lack of reasonable precautions.
Just getting over sunstroke from a trip up Moel Siabod on Tuesday, despite factor 50 sunblock, big hat, long sleeves and walking trousers, not shorts.
Just didn't get enough water down me.
I've never felt so ill as an adult.
Wednesday and Thursday involved shivering and drinking lots of water whilst sat in the shade with my feet in a stream along with a crippling headache.
Lesson learnt.
My cats just don't want to do anything in this heat... They just sit... Eat... Sleep.... Moan... Want attention... Repeat. ****s
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Re: tarmac and trains.
It's down to averages. You could lay a tarmac spec'd for the Middle East, but it would be brittle in winter and crumble to pieces.
Train lines don't have expansion gaps anymore, they're pretensioned and welded together. So above a certain temperature they've expanded enough to lose that tension. You can't tension them too much though as then they'd crack in winter when they try to shrink.
Re: tarmac and trains.
It’s down to averages. You could lay a tarmac spec’d for the Middle East, but it would be brittle in winter and crumble to pieces.
Sure, but a continental climate would be hotter and colder than here. I was wondering what physically is different about train tracks designed for those places.
It's going to be ****ing horrific in a classroom with 30kids and the sun beating down on massive glass windows if it gets up to the 38°C predicted here. Luckily my room gets no sun in morning and hardly any in afternoon due to some well placed trees but other rooms become stuffing on normal summer days, I'll be surprised if it gets that hot and kids don't start dropping. DoE has said not to close schools and keep windows shut... which given we've been wearing coats with windows open for the last few years and that 1:20 have COVID is going to be interesting, my windows will be open!
I was due to go to hebden on the train last Monday to ride, but plans were scuppered. I've got this coming Monday booked off to go instead, but current forecast says 31 degrees in hebden on Monday. Part of me thinks it'll be alright, no pressure, got all day, so take it easy. Part of me thinks, don't be a dick.
Tinas - yeah makes sense. Guess it's all down to the CTE of the materials and "normal operating temp". Spec for the normal and not extremes hence why so much variability..
Interesting on train line tracks... Was under the impression there was compensation for expansion (just like concrete bridges) but perhaps not? Would it not work the other way though... Heat causes expansion and cold causes more tension as the material contracts?
Some tips, in case anyone needs them:
- Close your windows and curtains as early as you can in the morning, to keep the heat out. All that insulation you have in your house for the winter, it works both ways. I am considering putting kitchen foil on the windows on the sunny side of the house. Yeah it'll be dark but it's only for two days.
- If you are really struggling get in your car, park it in the shade and sit with the aircon on if you have nothing else.
- Don't cook anything, obvs. Try making food the night before and just microwaving it - or buy a ready meal.
- Watch TV on a laptop or better still a tablet. The TV will heat up your room a fair bit, it's worth probably 150-200W, whereas your tablet is probably only 10W or so. My wife's been watching on her phone and it has made the living room significantly cooler.
- Also avoid desktop computers, as above. We told our kids to use tablets/phones instead of PCs, also made a difference.
- If you have a hot water tank turn the temperature dial on it right down. This has really helped us as the landing where the airing cupboard is is the hottest part of the house anyway.
Anagallis... I hear ya pain dude. Wife works in the local primary school... No air con single story building. Covid cases going through the roof (20% of kids / staff off)... Probably should have posted about the downplaying of the whole covid debacle but hey covids over right?
Good tips molgrips cheers!
Now the met office is giving red alert for the extreme heat forecast is anyone actually seriously worried about the heat alert or is it doom mongering?
Mock it all you want but people with COPDl, heart failure, frailty, elderly and very young are all very much effected by the heat. Our workload went right up the other day when we hits were in the high 20s, if it hits 30s like predicted it will be worse again.
mrs klunk will move her work from home days as the office has aircon.
the nanny state, doom mongering bull crap is just red top red herrings for the increasingly pink gammons as anthropogenic climate change becomes more difficult to deny.
EuroMOMO excess mortality pre-COVID for Greece. The red dashed line is four standard deviations. For reference, we're at about that now with COVID and were at 40x at peak COVID!
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
I've cycled in the USA in around 40c temps. There is the novel effect where going downhill the faster you go the warmer you get rather than the usual cooling effect of a downhill.
I started at 6am to get as much as possible done before noon.
My cats just don’t want to do anything in this heat… They just sit… Eat… Sleep…. Moan… Want attention… Repeat. ****
Hiw can you tell the difference?
Covid cases going through the roof
Yeah, luckily for the windows closed super spreader event next week, I had it two weeks ago so should be fine!!
We're down in Weymouth with the tin shed, 3 days before we came the heater/air blower failed.
Managed to get it in for my man to look at the day before we set off but he couldn't source a new one in time. (Nissan wanted £400 & we're looking at new cars anyway) so we're here with no air con in the car or blower, just a £4.00 USB powered fan from Morrisons.
Feel my pain.
I’m incredibly glad I’m in the workshop now, but even indoors last week with the big doors open at each end, and wearing shorts and a vest top instead of a tee shirt it was getting uncomfortably warm, to the extent that I was spraying myself with the soapy water I use when applying the decals to the cars! Last summer when it was hitting the high 20’s cars were hitting 40 degrees inside, and I burned my fingers picking keys up, last week I had to move a car with black leather seats, and it was unbearably hot, and I was wrapping a tissue around keys because they were too hot to hold! If it hits the high 30’s here, it’ll be hitting around 50 degrees inside parked cars! Thankfully it’s only going to be two days.
Hiw can you tell the difference?
Just came to post the same thing - that's normal behaviour for our cats.
that said tomorrow looks to be a cracking summers day reaching a barmy 25 here 🙂 nice early start for me.
I just hope that no trees at work decide to lose any limbs due to the heat. I don’t fancy doing any chainsaw work next week
I've ridden in high 30's a few times, I'm OK with the heat.
I remember at a hotel in Italy trying to box my bike up for the flight home though (outside in a courtyard) and I was dripping sweat with even the slightest exertion. Kind of embarrassing, I was absolutely soaked!
As mentioned though, people go abroad for heat like this and then sit by pools, go to air conditioned restaurants etc. Over here, none of the infrastructure is designed with this sort of heat.
Fully expecting my Mum (who really doesn't deal well with the heat at all and who lives in the SE) to be really suffering. 🙁
Drac - let me be clear I have not mocked the warning in any way.. Its serious that much I gather. I was simply asking in my OP if the warnings were overkill and given the response on here probably not. Cheers!
My wife has panic-bought an air conditioner and is stressing massively, whereas I'm quite looking forward to the novelty.
It's quite unnerving from a global warning point of view, though.
I’ve panic bought cool pads for my cats
Houns... I hate (love) ish my two cats (****s) forced upon me by family but I like ish (depending on the day) my cats... What cooling pads have you purchased? Save me from throwing the scratchy needy little gits in the paddling pool.
I played cricket in Perth WA in 41 degrees. I remember trying get shade from a telegraph pole. It was savage heat and felt utterly drained at the end of the day. 80 overs in the field. Got told “suck it up Pommy c**t.”
I just put in “pet cooling mat” into Amazon (yeah I know) and picked whichever was in stock and delivered this weekend.
I’ve been in Aus in 40° heat, it wasn’t nice
I think I'll be taking it easy on my cycle commute to work Tuesday. Apparently will be 25-27 degrees in the morning, and 32-30 on the way home. I quite enjoy exercise (not long distance!) in the heat as long as I'm moving enough for the constant airflow and wearing very lightweight clothing.
a_a luckily were on holiday now. But my classroom gets the morning sun and was 38C at 0815..genius of a PT wanted us to do Bunsen burner license with the primaries coming up. My mid room thermometer got up to 42C chuffing brutal.
Looks like I picked a good week to go on holiday. Cyprus is forecast to be cooler and I've cold beer and a pool to ease my weary bones.
Another tip - head out to Mountain Warehouse if you have one and get some of their super light weight T shirts. They really are incredible. I'm not sure what the model is - everything is branded isocool but these are super thin, they can be balled up in one fist but still perfectly functional as T shirts* and really cool to wear.
* the white one shows off your nipples a bit mind.
Got something similar very lightweight airy sports T in Primark the other day too, for ~£5.
Do they give full UV protection?
My vote is that it is the usual media cobblers just as the weather people make a huge deal of a bit of wind. Yes it will be a touch warmer than we are used to. It may be a bit too much for a few people/animals but the world won't come to an end. Love Island will still be for morons and some cretin will still insist on driving to ride their bike for 25% of the time they ponce about in the cafe.
Would you send elderly relatives out to the shops in 40°C heat?
Would you send elderly relatives out to the shops in 40°C heat?
If I wanted ice cream. It's going to be hot, I'll definitely want ice cream.
but the world won’t come to an end.
I must have missed that headline.
The ones I've seen have merely suggested a change in daily routines. Not the world ending.
Normally when the ‘weather people’ make a ‘huge deal’ out of a bit of wind at least one or more people die from falling trees and hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage is done to property,
A ‘bit too much ( heat) for some people and animals’ may well also result in their deaths….but hey just as long as it isnt you right - snowflakes the lot of em!
hammy7272
I played cricket in Perth WA in 41 degrees. I remember trying get shade from a telegraph pole. It was savage heat and felt utterly drained at the end of the day. 80 overs in the field. Got told “suck it up Pommy c**t.”
Yes I worked with an Australian at BA's plant in Plymouth think it was summer 90 building spray booths. It was bloody hot and he was mocking us for assembling sections in the shade, telling us it was just like spring.
He wasn't so cocky when he came round in Plymouth A&E having passed out from heat stroke! I felt like my hands were being burnt trying to get him out of the floor section of the booth he was building, steel sheets in the sun get bloody hot.
No. Nearly all tracks are tensioned these days. As the other post, if it gets too hot they lose the tension and buckle. The steel rails themselves get a lot hotter that the ambient temp too (remember the Met guys put out 'in the shade' temps, whereas the rails absorb more heat from the sun.).
And as the other post, stress for higher Summer temps then are ****ed for cold winters where the tension will be too high and the rails crack / break.
Changing the rail stress levels I possible, but costs a lot to do that over 20,000 miles of track, have to repeat before Winter, all the disruption whilst doing it, etc.