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its pretty easy this running lark Molly, stop over analysing
I'm not asking for the perfect scientific algorithm for it, I just wanted to know if anyone had any exercise tips! Jesus. I haven't even argued with anyone about it, I just said thanks. I only complained when someone made me out to be thick.
And I've shown to myself and attempted to explain a million times that it's not especially intuitive to some. It used to be shit, I analysed it and now it's much better. I fail to see what I did wrong.
DD - yes. This weekend would be perfect, due to weather, but I can't do it. Next w/e I am away in Yorkshire, so perhaps the one after that? Would be good 🙂
Yeti - that's a big route!
Molly - you say that, but it's only a couple of miles longer than the Nevis run leg!
I'll be up there (pen y fan that is)on Sunday morning; 6.30 start. Fairly slow as I've got a few miles to cover.
Molly - you say that, but it's only a couple of miles longer than the Nevis run leg!
Which is also a big route!
Which you're planning on doing after a 90km bike ride preceeded by a 2k swim.
How's the swimming going?
Yep, cos I like a challenge. Unlike some around here it seems 😉
Swimming is going well thanks.
You been in a lake yet?
Swam the full distance?
Also, have you entered now?
is it going... ahem.... swimmingly?
Thank you, i'll be here all week x
Next w/e I am away in Yorkshire
Well we have good run-able hills here so its ideal to get some hill reps in! Where are you staying?
For what its worth my legs are still quite sore, that's 5 days after! Ok i have said before that i haven't done any long mountain runs recently but its the downs that have hurt me this time. I have been thinking about what i said about Doms pain but thinking about its not just after the event, as i ran from the top of Scafell pike prob only 1.5-2 miles, My legs were screaming stop! All i wanted to do was slow down and stop, thighs, feet, toes all hurting lots! Whats the descent from the top of Ben? I guess 4 miles... 4 miles of PAIN.. You can go uphill at your own pace, but i think its downhill where the time or positions will be made.
Anyway let me know where your staying and if you can get out for a run there is bound to be a short fell race course or race in the vicinity.
I keep meaning to do the Ben fell race, is it the same course?
[i]Yep, cos I like a challenge.[/i]
Yep, cos I like talking about a challenge. 😉 🙂
LOL - I don't think man can face a bigger challenge then getting Molly to accept a logic different to his own.
I've swam in lakes. The event is in the sea though. I swam about a mile a couple of weeks back in the sea and it was a breeze, surprised myself.
Are you saying I'm underprepared? Why would you be telling me this? Trying to get me to back out?
Well we have good run-able hills here so its ideal to get some hill reps in! Where are you staying?
Heh.. well I'm staying over in Preston after work - going to a family party in Skipton, so I don't think there'll be much time for running. Although I can get something done I'm sure.
The Ben is 11km up and then 11km down, and it looks like there's only one path up there.
To be fair I was originally expecting it to be a fast walk rather than a run, which is why I'm doing it. If I run some of it then fine. However it's not as steep as I thought so that might make walking a bit to slow.
I don't think man can face a bigger challenge then getting Molly to accept a logic different to his own.
Yeti I'd accept your logic if it were more than just dismissing things and taking the piss 🙂
Trying to get me to back out?
Not at all. I want you to do it. The fact that you've not entered makes me believe you have as many doubts about doing it as I have about you doing it.
I mention swimming because I think it's the bit that will be your undoing. If you think you've got your swimming sorted (you haven't) great. 🙂 Crack on...
Molgrips - the Fitness Overlord has spoken. You're going to fail - you may as well give up trying
You do realise that running is sh1t though, don't you? I mean - running? Its what poor people do....
The fact that you've not entered makes me believe you have as many doubts about doing it as I have about you doing it.
You've already shown you don't understand me, so go ahead and think that if you like 🙂
I'm not worried about the swimming. Why are you?
the Fitness Overlord has spoken. You're going to fail
Lol 🙂 the Lord of the Gym 🙂 I'm not sure he understands why I'm doing it, or how I approach these things.
Mol - you don't take advice... so I wish you good luck. Let us all know how you get on.
I think you're planning on doing it for the challenge, the sense of achievement... a mental task as much as a physical one.
I don't understand why you haven't entered it though. To me, that's step one in completing something. I do think you've talked about it enough on here that you've got to do it though.
Mol - you don't take advice
Yes I do.
I don't follow what anyone on the internet says though.
What actual proper advice have I not followed?
if you both enter can you film an arm wrestling match between the two of you at the end?
He's mocking you Molgrips....
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What actual proper advice have I not followed?
I don't need to answer that in any greater detail than to refer you back to your posting history.
Have you got a wetsuit?
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That's not much of an answer.
No wetsuit yet, no.
A suit and the entry is going to be the best part of £200, which is why I am saving up.
No wetsuit... no entry... hmmm.
Take this advice then. Get a wetsuit ASAP. Spend more than £105 if you can and get out and practice swimming in it ASAP. You'll thank me for it.
It's on the cards, Yeti. I appreciate the advice but I had already thought of it!
This is what I am thinking of:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/aqua-sphere-pursuit-wetsuit/
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SportsPursuit have just emailed me to say they have VivoBarefoot running shoes going cheap. Would these be better for running up or down or a bit of both?
Less thinking and more action Mr Grips.
You can do the bike ride, you can do the run.
I think you're underestimating the swim. Talk to iDave if you want a 'qualified' opinion.
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The swim is all about technique and not being a bloody wuss. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Less thinking and more action Mr Grips.
See, this is where you don't understand.
I already do all the action I can reasonably put in.
I don't decide to sit and think INSTEAD of going out training!
I sit and think about it when I am bored at work, and I can't go out training.
Re swimming, it is part of my training plan. When I say I am not worried about it, it doesn't mean I'm not training for it. It simply means I think I'll be able to do it reasonably well.
Anybody heard anything from that bloke who said he'd do a five minute mile?
So why haven't you entered yet Mol? Did I miss something? I entered my races back in January, or at least as many of them as I could, with others done on the day entry opened.
Strength exercises: KB swings, KB sumo squats, jumping squats, hamstring curls on a swiss ball, weighted lunges, glute exercises, step up and downs, calf raises. Core work too will make a huge difference (i don't mean endless sit ups, but things like mountain climbers on a bosu ball, planks etc)
If i wasn't racing that weekend, i'd be up heading up to watch you! 😛
Speaking of which, there's a running track in Preston. That'd be nice for training.
running? Its what poor people do....
Yeah - I'm sure that Bolt bloke is much poorer than you.
there's a running track in Preston. That'd be nice for training.
How much ascent does it have?
So why haven't you entered yet Mol?
Money, and unpredictability 🙂
If i wasn't racing that weekend, i'd be up heading up to watch you!
That'd be cool. You could maybe do it with binoculars from the other side of the valley!
and unpredictability
hmmmmm
Yeah - I'm sure that Bolt bloke is much poorer than you.
bet now he's rich he's bought a car though. OH HOW THE OTHER HALF and so on
Yeti, you really are good at making people feel bad about themselves!
bet now he's rich he's bought a car though.
And I already had one. So I win....
Why feel bad? Overcome this by making a real commitment to the event... spend money on it!
I understand that you're doing training towards it. This is great. If the swim isn't a concern... lucky you, I think the rest of it will be a formality. Just make sure you eat right throughout the event and I reckon you've got it in the bag.
I'm not going to lie though. The fact that you haven't made a financial outlay on it makes me believe that you're not 100% committed to it. Prove me wrong.
Winter Hill would be better than a 400m track. Good point about downhill, not enough people practise it, then wonder why they're weak at it.
The Ben is 11km up and then 11km down, and it looks like there's only one path up there.
You'll take the hill race route, which is basically just a straight line from the waterfall to the summit cutting out all the zigzags. They'll have buddy runners there to relay you up the hill in the right direction. Sorry if this information has been posted before.
Also, practice running downhill for sure! Cyclists are good at going uphill in my experience but I lost 40mins on that decent alone to a friend that had done more downhill running than me. My training consisted of driving an uplift to a high point in the Alps, guiding to the bottom and then running up to collect, hence no downhill practice and it hurts.
Best of luck though! May see you there.
Why feel bad?
I don't, but you are trying hard to make me it seems 🙂
The fact that you haven't made a financial outlay on it makes me believe that you're not 100% committed to it
If I haven't got £200 spare, how can I make the outlay?
you are trying hard
Sure is. Pity he can't try as hard to break five minutes for one mile. I'm beginning to question the commitment to be honest.