So. Just a polite gentleman driver, or he clocked the camera and figured he couldn't chin/swear at the cyclist?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=65c_1352206981
**** me, calm cyclist or what! I'd have been raging!
I thought both chaps behaved admirably.
Love the comments:
It's called "British rage".
"Don't f** with me or I'll lecture you about basic rules of politeness"
But no tea and biscuits, how barbaric!
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Most drivers think we are tree hugging softies! many a time they have stopped with me to give me abuse then backed down when I have gone to them to reason/argue with them! one day I will come across a total nutter and will get decked but i cannot help myself 😕
So he basically runs the cyclist off the road because the cyclist touched his car following an earlier near miss?
He'd have had more than a few finger marks to worry about doing that to me on the road.
I'd have dropped the gobby little scummer on the spot.
surely that's dangerous driving? he ran him off the road!
I would have knocked him out! sorry keyboard warrior and all that but he was a total **ck who almost ran him down.
Could easily have turned nasty but instead was rather pleasant!
The car driver was calm because, I think, he knew he could've battered the cyclist if push come to shove.
People that start out agro are generally trying to demonstrate a good bark but soft as *****. Much like the stereotypical internet hardmen...
Brilliant!
Both very polite. Regardless of who is right or wrong, that's how road rage should be conducted.
apart from the driver running the cyclist off the road?I thought both chaps behaved admirably.
"Why didn't you back off and let me through if you knew if i was there?"
"What do you mean?"
LOL
Did they shake hands in the end?
The car driver was calm because, I think, he knew he could've battered the cyclist if push come to shove
Actually I think he calmed down a lot right about the same moment where he clocked the camera.
I think the cyclist totally diffused the situation by being so reasonable. Audi driver initially fancied his chances I reckon.
[quote=D0NK ]I thought both chaps behaved admirably.apart from the driver running the cyclist off the road?
I was referring to the discussion, not the initial incident. However, to be fair to the driver, after the crossing pinch-point he pulled over at a rate/angle to impede and stop the cyclist rather than swipe him off the road 😉
"I think he calmed down a lot right about the same moment where he clocked the camera"
Possibly. The cyclist sounded scared, the driver didn't.
Jeeves, bring pistols for two and coffee for one.
[i]I thought both chaps behaved admirably.[/i]
Yeah, apart from trying to push the cyclist into the kerb with his effing great vehicle, the Audi driver was a perfectly behaved piece of shit.
tomato/tomato still bullying the cyclist around the road with his very heavy (potentially) very fast blunt instrument.after the crossing pinch-point he pulled over at a rate/angle to impede and stop the cyclist rather than swipe him off the road
fair enough not actually listened to it yet, no soundI was referring to the discussion
The cyclist sounded scared, the driver didn't.
Yep - and by sounding "scared" he diffused the situation nicely.
(I've seen other videos that guy has done and he uses the same slightly apologetic sounding tone in each of them - generally seems to be more effective than getting aggro)
generally seems to be more effective than getting aggro
In what way was he more effective. The Audi C*** had his behaviour and driving style reinforced and didnt feel the need to modify it.
presumably in diffusing the situation, I'll shout at drivers but if they came up to me with a likely intention of hitting me I'd switch to diffuse mode. DOn't wanna get into fisticuffs. How would battering the driver (or getting battered) change his future driving style? Challenge drivers bad behaviour but if they go mental leave it and report to police.In what way was he more effective.
davidjones15 - MemberI'd have dropped the gobby little scummer on the spot.
17 minutes to the first internet hard-man comment.
Standards are slipping.
In what way was he more effective. The Audi C*** had his behaviour and driving style reinforced and didnt feel the need to modify it.
The Audi guy actually listened to what he had to say regarding backing off to let him through and that he only bangs on cars to alert drivers that are putting him in danger.
It may not have sunk in, but he did at least get heard.
If they had gone toe-to-toe I very much doubt Mr Audi would be sat at home later thinking [i]"Hmm.. maybe that guy had a point. I'll be more considerate of cyclists next time."[/i]
Engaging in conversation with a motorist?
Brings to mind:
"Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
I usually just think to myself "well done, you've just confirmed my assumption that you're a massive penis" ...
I'd have been going for the eye contact and putting the driver off making that manoeuvre way before he went for it. I'd probably have sped up a bit to put myself in a better part of their field of vision too.
It pains me to say it, but the driver has a tiny wee bit of a point.
I'd probably have ended up in a fight with them though.
I'd have been going for the eye contact and putting the driver off making that manoeuvre way before he went for it. I'd probably have sped up a bit to put myself in a better part of their field of vision too.
Not sure that would have helped - the driver stated that he knew he was there - he just didn't see why he shouldn't be able to overtake, even if there wasn't room to do so.
I was once in a very similar situation with a chap in a Lexus. I slapped his car and he was not happy at all. I did point out that if he hadn't got so close to me, then I wouldn't have been able to slap his precious car. The Alan Partridge wannabe wouldn't get out of his car though - there were plenty of couriers picthing in with their thoughts about him too!!
If the cyclist had dabbed his brakes around the 13 second mark instead of speeding up, the whole incident would never had happened. Sometimes, it's not just about driving according to your rights, it's also about being considerate to other traffic.
It may not have sunk in, but he did at least get heard.
He got heard because he was largely passive and submissive. The Audi driver made a couple of dangerous maneouvres and really he should have been taken to task.
If he drives off then fine but he chose to stop, also endangering the cyclist and then got out of the car. Dangerous game to play when you are a miniature C***
Sometimes, it's not just about driving according to your rights, it's also about being considerate to other traffic.
Away with you and your common sense ideas.
The Audi driver was very sure of himself and lucky for the cyclist that he had a camera otherwise it would of turned nasty, proper east end geezer out of lock stock I reckon 😀
driver tried to cut into the bus/bike lane so he was in the wrong before you start thinking about consideration. This sort of stuff (driver knows you're there but just drift across anyway) riles me so I'd have done the same (whilst covering the brakes and having an escape option in mind)Sometimes, it's not just about driving according to your rights, it's also about being considerate to other traffic.
I'd have told him in no uncertain terms I would have been banging on his head not his car, TWUNT.
He got heard because he was largely passive and submissive.
So? Whatever works. I'm a big lad but I'll play it submissive if I think it'll get me heard and avoid fisticuffs.
Making someone bleed is unlikely to change any of their opinions.
he should have been taken to task.
He was done. Politely and without violence, in a manner that allows him to reflect on what he did without thinking of it as "defeat".
Sometimes, it's not just about driving according to your rights, it's also about being considerate to other traffic.
Agreed he could have avoided it - but that's not [i]"being considerate"[/i], that's just allowing yourself to be bullied out the way.
Making someone bleed is unlikely to change any of their opinions
Thats not the only way and if it was then it may have done. People in cars often become bullies and whilst you mention "defeat" I suspect he will think "victory" unfortunately
Politely and without violence, in a manner that allows him to reflect on what he did without thinking of it as "defeat".
Be careful playing fast and loose with the word "thinking" in reference to motorists
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IMO the driver left with the impression he'd 'won' the argument and that the cyclist would ride in the gutter from now on.
Disgraceful behaviour and I'd have struggled to keep my cool, especially with the blaring horn and forcing the cyclist to stop. That was extremely aggressive.
I suspect he will think "victory" unfortunately
That's fine. Thinking "victory" will make him less defensive and more open to pondering whether the cyclist may have had a point.
Be careful playing fast and loose with the word "thinking" in reference to motorists
I'm a motorist too. Most of us are. No point playing "them and us" games.
I'd have dropped the gobby little scummer on the spot.
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Got to agree that whilst the whole thing was precipitated by someone driving like a ****, what happened afterwards was very civilised and is far more likely to result in the driver modifying his behaviour than had the cyclist just hopped the curb and ridden off, or punched him or been punched.
The cyclist must be about 5 foot tall as the camera, which I assume is on his helmet, is looking straight at the driver!
