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I'm not lurking as much as normal at the moment, mainly because I've started drumming again so I've been looking at drum stuff I can't afford, rather than bike stuff I can't afford.
I've still not been on my MTB this year, other than an aborted attempt at a ride a month or so ago. Going to try and get out this weekend though.
Getting a bit hacked off with my commute too, not helped by the fact my rear hub is on the way out, and I'd rather spend the money to fix it on a new snare drum.
junkjyard got a life ban for argueing IIRC
junkjyard got a life ban for argueing IIRC
If that’s true, it’s a real shame. He IS an argumentative so and so, but he’s always got a point and his arguments are usually well thought out (spelling not so much, but meh 😉)
I always valued and enjoyed his contributions; this place would be a little poorer without him.
Hmmm. yeah, I could tolerate him much more than some others...
junkjyard got a life ban for argueing IIRC
What, another one?
JY banned for life? I hope not (but I don't choose to argue with him).
If that’s true, it’s a real shame. He IS an argumentative so and so, but he’s always got a point and his arguments are usually well thought out
Aye,he took a bit of getting used to,but did seem to care about what he posted (unlike some of the other muppets that get let back in) .
Seems much more quiet. Fewer posters.
Do they go somewhere else for their forum fix, or do they just kick the habit ?
Seems much more quiet. Fewer posters.
I know that for me, personally, I always post in fits and starts.
I can go days where I hardly even look at the forum, and then have a burst of energy that sees me start a series of the most remarkable, creative, and interesting posts ever. [/irony]
I also post more when depressed.
Ultimately, though, I'm almost always around. Lurking...
Brexit thread’s dropped out of the first few pages as I type, what’s not to like?
The cheese-eating surrender-monkeys, apart from when an alpine holiday is needed (natch)...
(and 😉 in case you don't get it)
Didn’t know JY had been banned again. He was argumentative, but never crossed a line as far as I could tell and always came across as decent.Then again there are some professionally offended types about. Speaking of which, charliemungus hasn’t posted in a while. Quite liked him despite the being perpetually offended by something.
Still here 'coz Mumsnet banned me.
I offered someone a go up the Oxo Tower....
Miss Hora and his "what frame/fork for today's ride " threads
funkmasterp
Didn’t know JY had been banned again. He was argumentative, but never crossed a line as far as I could tell and always came across as decent.Then again there are some professionally offended types about.
If your idea of decent is trawling threads and viciously attacking anyone who shows any sign of disagreeing with you on something political or religious, ascribing the worst possible meaning to their post, insinuate that they are a racist, a xenophobe, a nazi, homophobe etc fully aware of the potential damage such allegations carry yet doing so with impunity, all the while dropping hints about how much empathy, charity and understanding you have for all the children of the world because you're a rabid marxist...yeah really really decent.
The worst thing is that he's allowed to act that way with full approval of the mods.
^^ That night explain things a bit. I avoid the political threads like the plague and always try and derail religious threads whilst paying little attention to the serious posts. Looks like he might have upset you slightly at some point though.
junkjyard got a life ban for argueing IIRC
wonder if that had anything to do with him being upset that a mod outed him for reporting some one else ? if so it's a sad state of affairs
trawling threads and viciously attacking anyone who shows any sign of disagreeing with you on something political or religious, ascribing the worst possible meaning to their post
I think most people would argue that Junkyard was just confronting vacuous, reactionary far-right dogma when he encountered it.
they are a racist, a xenophobe, a nazi, homophobe etc fully aware of the potential damage such allegations carry yet doing so with impunity
What? Like damaging your anonymous, imaginary, forum persona's reputation? Do you think perhaps that you might be starting to take yourself a little bit too seriously?
I did notice that Junkyard had been posting some opinions recently that were diametrically opposed to his usual political stance - maybe his log-in has been hi-jacked?
amedias has returned to Cycling UK
I haven't so much flounced as just let my 'P' expire and wandered off*....
I've been poking my head back in occasionally and not finding much going on...which is kind of why I wandered off. If things liven up again I might be back more regularly.
Been using other forums CUK/YACF/BF etc. a bit more but with a few exceptions most threads are still just a bunch of people talking nonsense about bikes and bickering wherever you go 😀
*I am kinda surprised anyone noticed, I didn't think my forum presence was anything more than 'occasional contributor' level.
trawling threads and viciously attacking anyone who shows any sign of disagreeing with you on something political or religious, ascribing the worst possible meaning to their post
I think most people would argue that Junkyard was just confronting vacuous, reactionary far-right dogma when he encountered it.
I'm not surprised you think that, and in this echo chamber, you'll find you're not alone. It doesn't change my mind, nor does it change the way he goes about posting.
What? Like damaging your anonymous, imaginary, forum persona’s reputation? Do you think perhaps that you might be starting to take yourself a little bit too seriously?
It would be laughably simple for anyone who wanted to find out my real name based on what I posted on here. From there they could deduce where I live, who I work for, where my children go to school etc. How do you think my employer would react to a "scandalous" situation emerging that they had, in their midst, a racist? For you to understand, how would you like it if I start insinuating that you're a pedophile? Shall we see how that goes? There's no need for you to worry about me calling you a pedo unless you're taking your anonymous imaginary forum persona too seriously after all. In one of my last dealings with Junkyard he countered one of my statements with something like "you would say that since you spread radical right wing ideologies". It was of course, utterly baseless shit slingling, the kind he's fond of and when challenged he had no reply, but it's typical of his interactions, and many others like him on this forum. What is "radical right wing" a synonym for? Care to answer?
How do you think my employer would react to a “scandalous” situation emerging that they had, in their midst, a racist?
As a general rule, not being racist means I rarely (if ever) get accused of xenophobia or racism. HTH.
“The way to gain a good reputation, is to endeavor to be what you desire to appear.”
– Socrates
I never knew Socrates knew any HTML
a man ahead of his time 🙂
fifo
How do you think my employer would react to a “scandalous” situation emerging that they had, in their midst, a racist?
As a general rule, not being racist means I rarely (if ever) get accused of xenophobia or racism. HTH.
Ah, so there's no smoke without fire right? If a demented forum troll who wants to "win" every encounter with anyone who he (wrongly) perceives as being his political enemy says you're a racist you're a racist. Let me illustrate just how low the bar is for racism on STW - If you voted leave in the Brexit referendum, you're probably a racist. Racism was the subtext for every voter who wanted to leave, even if they won't admit it.
I've seen this, and every conceivable flavour and variation of this statement repeated ad nauseum and unchallenged on here. One poster went out of his way to conflate leave voters with actual nazis, I took him to task, alone, with virtually no one else objecting to his characterisation.
It's his opinion, you seem quite bitter about him having one.
Some bloke less brainy than Socrates also made a quip along the lines of “thou doth protest too much” and more recent iterations about headgear fitting.
In the context of Brexit, perhaps racist is a bit strong. However, xenophobia certainly fits the definition: fear of others. That, in one form or another was a huge driver of the leave vote. Jingoism was another. Together maybe they do venture towards racism, actually.
However, xenophobia certainly fits the definition: fear of others. That, in one form or another was a huge driver of the leave vote.
I am not even sur that is true for a lot of cases...
noun: xenophobia
- dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
more a realisation that this country isn't well prepared with resources for the levels of immigration that are happening, so wishing to exert some control over it, more than a particular dislike of people from other countries.
I agree with jimjams assessment of this place, and Junkyard 🙂
naturally 🙂
Let me illustrate just how low the bar is for racism on STW – If you voted leave in the Brexit referendum, you’re probably a racist. Racism was the subtext for every voter who wanted to leave, even if they won’t admit it.
Thats such bollocks - if you’re attributing that view to STW remainers, then you’re talking out of your hole. It’s an accusation you’ve made many times in your many tirades about STW. I don’t really know why you come here to post if the site makes you as dementedly angry as you sound sometimes.
I took him to task
Actually, on the other hand, keep coming back. We need heroes here like never before.
more a realisation that this country isn’t well prepared with resources for the levels of immigration that are happening, so wishing to exert some control over it, more than a particular dislike of people from other countries.
So a fear of immigrants automatically being a negative drain, rather than a positive addition, coupled with a wilful misinterpretation of “control of our borders”. Yup, seems to be grounded in xenophobia, no matter how subconscious.
So a fear of immigrants automatically being a negative drain, rather than a positive addition, coupled with a wilful misinterpretation of “control of our borders”. Yup, seems to be grounded in xenophobia, no matter how subconscious.
An influx of people from anywhere, putting pressure on jobs and resources in your area, would produce the same effect, it doesn't have to be immigration.
Thats such bollocks – if you’re attributing that view to STW remainers, then you’re talking out of your hole.
it isn't. that is the overridding 'flavour' of remainers argument in this forum, and many other places.
Two pages and it's gone to shit.
It's almost like the good old days.
deadlydarcy
Thats such bollocks – if you’re attributing that view to STW remainers, then you’re talking out of your hole.
Talking out my hole am I? To make it worth my while searching, how about you agree give me a euro (via paypal) for every time I find a post that describes leave voters using either racism, racist, xenophobe or biggot? If I'm talking out my hole you have nothing to lose.
Put your money where your mouth is or shut your hole.
So, was it arguing over Brexit then that caused people to give up on the forum ?
...how about you agree give me a euro etc...
.Do you agree to do the same for every brexit comment comment found that sounds racist, xenophobic or bigoted ?
Put your money where your mouth is or shut your hole.
Its the start of a sunny bank holiday weekend. So I’ll shut my hole thanks. I didn’t realise you’d shit your pants that much. Sorry dude.
Good boy.
Anyway, has JY really had a lifetime ban?
Two pages and it’s gone to shit.
It’s almost like the good old days.
I was was just thinking the same thing. Almost gives one a warm nostalgic glow
These threads always go to shit - if you’re expecting anything else you’re just setting yourself up to be disappointed.
I did notice that Junkyard had been posting some opinions recently that were diametrically opposed to his usual political stance – maybe his log-in has been hi-jacked?
I caught one of those and thought the same. It was almost like he'd taken a different stance just to have something to argue - which didn't seem typical.
STW does seem to have become more of an echo chamber recently. Post an opinion not in keeping with someone else's world view and you are accused of trolling. Too many closed minds all nodding at each other.
*nods*
EU immigrants are overwhelming positive in their contributions to the economy - thats the truth. Pay more in tax and take less in services that Uk citizens. Losing them is a huge loss to the economy and the country - see the NHS for a clear example.
so yes - wanting to "control immigration" is xenophobic at best.