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Horrific.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36396341 ]Four year sentence for 'road rage' crash.[/url]
I hope he gets shafted every which way in prison. Should be paralysed from the waist down himself.
Read this earlier and it sounds like he did everything he could to deny it and make up some jackanory story. Disgusting bully - here's hoping he'll be on the receiving end during his time at Her Majesty's pleasure
what a complete and utter C@:T
Dashcam footage like that, two girls horribly injured, and he denies it in court. What a revolting scumbag.
'Off-road driving instructor'...
I do wonder how the girls will be properly compensated. Will his insurers use the criminal element of his behaviour to refuse the claim? If so, I hope that the family take every penny and possession he has to pay for their rehabilitation and care.
At times like these I struggle with the sentencing delivered, I realise that sentencing can be limited by statues and so on but in this case it is truly paltry, the law has failed the victims of the crime.
How could anyone deny such a charge especially when the evidence is so compelling? Really makes me angry that.
Idiot.
As for sentencing, what gets me is that it could be out in half for his behaviour...
What a ****.
As an aside, have offenders addresses always been published? As noticed the Beeb and others post this guys several times.
Andrew Nay, 39, of Harrier Close, Weldon, Corby, has been jailed for four-and-a-half years for causing a crash which left two young sisters paralysed.
- [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-northamptonshire-36389014 ]Beeb[/url]
I think the press are free to publish anything said in Court, unless instructed otherwise.
(edit) maybe not until the case finishes.
As an aside, have offenders addresses always been published?
Yes. National media sometimes doesn't bother, local press always does.
Sometimes you do it if there is another Andrew Nay living in Corby and you don't want to libel him.
Will his insurers use the criminal element of his behaviour to refuse the claim? If so, I hope that the family take every penny and possession he has to pay for their rehabilitation and care.
I think that only works for the policy holder - so if I crash into someone while hammered, my insurance won't pay to replace my car, but they would still have to pay out for the harm I cause to third parties.
In this case, he's unlikely to have assets anywhere near the value of a lifetime of rehab and adaptations to houses, cars etc so I hope the insurers cough up.
Normally on dash/helmetcam threads people pop up to say how cam users are looking for trouble and cause it all themselves. Somehow I doubt we'll be seeing that here.
that's only about 4.5 miles from me, going by todays road ride there's still plenty of similar nutters on Northants roads.
It really is about time that the penalties for driving offenses actually reflected the magnitude of the effect that they have. Dangerous driving is one thing but when the outcome is as devastating as this then the punishment must reflect that. Four and a half years means he could be out in two and a half. There is no mention of a driving ban either. Again I don't think that a life ban would be excessive. 10 years is certainly justifiable. As for compensation, he should be made to contribute a % of his income to the girls for the rest of his miserable existance.
I think that only works for the policy holder - so if I crash into someone while hammered, my insurance won't pay to replace my car, but they would still have to pay out for the harm I cause to third parties.
Cheers for clarifying that. Hopefully he'll end up penniless and destitute anyhow.
At 00:01 in that video you can see that he is undertaking and swerving in front of another car - an unbelievable piece of driving. Four and a half years seems far too little.
Road rage should as a matter of course, attract a minimum of a 10 year driving ban.
4 year driving ban.
Neither the prison sentence or the driving ban are sufficient, no where near
Those poor little girls, this story just broke my heart.
Crikey.
The sentence isn't long enough.
4.5 years in prison was the maximum sentence, I believe.
I personally hope he gets the Swordfish treatment whilst inside and someone pays
[i]"two ball-busting skinheads to make a playground out of your ass."[/i]
That man should never be allowed to drive again, and at times like this, I think an eye-for-an-eye, might be quite deserving.
Almost worth bringing back the death penalty just for him.
Absolute ****.
At 00:01 in that video you can see that he is undertaking and swerving in front of another car - an unbelievable piece of driving
That's the road rage part I believe. He's an utter dangerous idiot who got off likely, I'd be waiting outside the prison gate on his release.
How could anyone deny such a charge especially when the evidence is so compelling?
That tells the story though. Fair enough; moment of madness; everyone is susceptible to that. But ****ing hell, hold your hands up and admit your guilt.
Absolute ****
He might be feeling hard done by as according to this a childs life is only worth £90
I'm not sure which of these two stories has depressed me more today.
I got angry reading that news so i had to read something else.
That sentence is just a joke.
I grew up half a mile from that junction, seen plenty of nasty crashes there. That guy should have been done for attempted murder.
Do any of you remember the treatment that Bog got at the hands of Captain Hadley in Shawshank Redemption?
and a 4.5 year prison sentence (ignoring for the minute that he won't serve all that) and AIUI they run concurrently so he'd potentially be driving home from prison.4 year driving ban.
Gotta love our justice system, when it comes to this stuff.
No, the ban starts on his release according to to a report I heard earlier. He must also retake his test.
The sentence seems light given what happened to the victims here. And he is clearly a scumbag. Rightly or wrongly the law steps back from emotion. A slightly different angle of either vehicle and the girls may have not been as badly hurt. He was prosecuted for his driving, not the actual effects of that driving.
And if you don't like the legal system, campaign to get it changed, badger your MP, support campaign groups. Being annoyed on a forum won't change **** all.
If someone did that to one of my kids the safest place for him would be prison. I wouldn't care about the consequences.
I read today that the 4 year driving ban starts after he is released. He should be banned for life the arrogant c**k. There are too many idiots on our roads who treat it like a race track. Feel gutted for the family. I have a 4 year old daughter and cannot imagine the heartache.
the sentence is nowhere near long enough for what he has done and the damage caused and the manner in which he did it.Road rage chase of someone, undertake then swerve across a road resulting in permanent paralysis of two children. 10 years minimum IMHO and i would give him another 5 for denying it tbh.
I dont understand why this forum allows folk to hope someone gets raped. I am fairly confident i wont be able to hope a female gets raped and we should be able to express our, justifiable anger, in another way.
I dont understand why this forum allows folk to hope someone gets raped. I am fairly confident i wont be able to hope a female gets raped and we should be able to express our, justifiable anger, in another way.
Took me a while but I think I know what you meant
MoreCashThanDash - Member
Took me a while but I think I know what you meant
If it has taken you a while to understand then I have practically no chance whatsoever to understand what he said. Is he using some sort of slang?
Is he condoning or is he complaining?
Can someone interpret please.
I believe that Junkyard is suggesting that wishing for a woman to be raped is not ok, so why should the same be ok for a man to be on the receiving end.
Obviously there is a lot of context removed from this basic interpretation of the issue, but I think that's roughly it. We have the right to be angry, but wishing rape on anyone is not cool.
I thought the sentences always used to run concurrently, it was noted to be a daft situation, some new legislation was voted on and agreed but due to administration change or something it didn't actually get signed and implemented - could be misremembering or it could have changed, will try to remember where I read it.I read today that the 4 year driving ban starts after he is released.
<edit> quick bit of googling suggests a change was to be implemented last October, not found a confirmation of it actually happening. Anyone else know?
bongohoohaa - MemberI believe that Junkyard is suggesting that wishing for a woman to be raped is not ok, so why should the same be ok for a man.
Obviously there is a lot of context removed from this basic interpretation of the issue, but I think that's roughly it.
Where? I read all the threads posted but still I have no idea?
Is he referring to The Shawshank Redemption? But Bog got beaten up ...
Is he referring to The Shawshank Redemption? But Bog got beaten up ...
I know. I just assumed someone said something about rape, for Junkyard to make that comment. Now I am confused.
this?
dunno exactly what "swordfish treatment" is thoI personally hope he gets the Swordfish treatment whilst inside and someone pays"two ball-busting skinheads to make a playground out of your ass."
I hope he gets shafted every which way in prison
or the first reply.
Try wishing rape on a woman on here, or a fellow poster, and see how the mods react.
No rape makes the world a better place it just makes it worse.
He is a scumbag and his sentence should be longer.
Typical Stw, start slagging each other off for a few misplaced words instead of focusing on the real issue.
Already been said, but the sentence is pathetic for such a crime. If he'd been responsible for paralysing 2 little girls in some other way, rather then in a car I'm sure he wouldn't have got off so lightly.
Does seem a very lenient sentence, esp for someone so remorseless....
Total utter shit. Nasty piece of work. I'd sentence him to life mining pitchblende.
I guess it's sentencing constraints..he is a complete xxxx but there was probably no intent to cause that amount of devastation and carnage.
but there was probably no intent to cause that amount of devastation and carnage.
Driving as he was, it is fairly obvious the risk to life and health is significant, that would be like firing an assault rifle into a crowd and claiming that he didn't intend to harm anyone.