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A few recent threads on here inspire me to ask...

Have you ever managed to change someone's opinion about [i]any[/i] significant issue - religion, politics, environmentalism etc – whether on STW or in the 'real' world?

Has anyone ever changed your mind?

Or are you happy to confess to the group that you're basically a stubborn-minded argumental warrior? And, if so, what's the attraction?

Me, I can't even persuade Mrs 16 that Diana wasn't done in by the Windsors driving Fiat Unos...

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 12:49 pm
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Only the person who's mind it is can change it. It's always a choice, even if it might not feel like it.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 12:51 pm
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Yes suprisingly - the big debate about cycling on the cairngorm plateau softened my stance considerably

I have also learnt stuff in debates on here

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 12:52 pm
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[i]Has anyone ever changed your mind?[/i]

Yep. I actually admitted I was wrong in a thread once (yes, just the once). Almost a banning offence!

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 12:52 pm
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DezB - dare I ask what the issue was?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 12:56 pm
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Yes and yes.

Being open to the insight of others is critical if you want the full life experience rather than a one dimensional egocentric existence.

Happy to change and be changed.

 
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Have been right and wrong about many things. Whether people agree with me or not is up to them

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 12:58 pm
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DezB - dare I ask what the issue was?

Er, can't remember.. something really important and vital like a Highway Code issue, probably.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:04 pm
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I've only ever been wrong about something once. It was when I thought I was wrong about something, and it turned out I wasn't.

 
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I change peoples minds all the time, they just don't know it.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:11 pm
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something really important and vital like a Highway Code issue, probably.

Okay, but how about the biggies? Here are some issues that, as far as I can tell, make opinions intractable:

God or no-God?
Left wing or right wing?
Dave Cameron, * or * ?
Conspiracies, yes or no?
Dannii or Kylie?

Anyone changed someone's mind about one of the above?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:13 pm
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Is it really possible to change someone's [i]opinion[/i]?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:23 pm
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God or no-God?

I'd hope Brian Cox has...?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:27 pm
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Have you ever managed to change someone's opinion about any significant issue - religion, politics, environmentalism etc – whether on STW or in the 'real' world?

Has anyone ever changed your mind?

Not really had my mind changed as such, because i start with an open mind, and being equivocal about topics. So, no change of mind as such but often manage to gain an understanding of another view point.

 
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s it really possible to change someone's opinion?

that depends on how well formed the opinion is and how open minded the person is..

I've certainly had my view changed by threads on STW.. but then I am a fickle little so and so with no immediately discernible moral fibre..

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:29 pm
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Dannii or Kylie?

How is that even a choice?!

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:30 pm
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Has anyone ever changed your mind?

God or no-God?

Yes. My religious beliefs have changed completely during the course of my life.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:31 pm
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How is that even a choice?!

It's a choice. Me, I'm a Dannii man, but I suppose with enough debating I might be convinced to go Kylie.

Yes. My religious beliefs have changed completely during the course of my life.

By a conversation, debate or argument, mintimperial? Or by self-realisation?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:32 pm
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I've certainly had my view changed by threads on STW.. but then I am a fickle little so and so with no immediately discernible moral fibre

I thought i had some moral fibre once, turned out it was just an accumulation of belly button fluff

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:32 pm
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It's a choice. Me, I'm a Dannii man, but I suppose with enough debating I might be convinced to go Kylie.

Yes, but would it be the kind of debate which involved lots of people?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:33 pm
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Yes, but would it be the kind of debate which involved lots of people?

At the moment, CM, it'd probably just be one or two. 😉

 
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Like Charlie, often have my understanding of others' positions increased by threads here.

While I often don't join in on the political debates, I often learn stuff from the well researched posts (and nothing from the no so well researched 🙂 )

 
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You see Camo, the Dannii/kylie thing I would have had down as the one thing you couldn't change your stance on. Its hardwired into your DNA from birth I think

Oh... Dannii too BTW. 😉

 
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I thought I had some moral fibre once, turned out it was just an accumulation of belly button fluff

That's a beaut..!!

I think I'd like that as my epitaph when the time comes.. 🙂

(definitely Dannii.. Kylie is too shiny.. if the inside of her mind matches her exterior I would die of boredom)

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:36 pm
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Oh... Dannii too BTW,

A fellow believer!

There's hope here... 8)

 
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Hora spent the evening in Manchester trying to change DD's sexual orientation. It didn't work. I don't think........

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:37 pm
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Hora spent the evening in Manchester trying to change DD's sexual orientation.

No, he hasn't quite straightened me out yet. I did get a drink from him though. 🙂

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:38 pm
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I'm flabbergasted.

Ever since this, it's all been about Kylie

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By a conversation, debate or argument, mintimperial? Or by self-realisation?

Conversations and debates, and also reading a lot of relevant literature. All major changes of that sort are inevitably going to involve self-realisation too, though, ultimately that's the only way change is going to happen.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 1:41 pm
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I occasionally admit I'm wrong. But sometimes I'm just lying to keep the missus quiet.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 2:08 pm
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I'm flabbergasted.

Ever since this, it's all been about Kylie

Is there a link missing? Was it the Agent Provocateur one?

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 2:13 pm
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Oh, and sorry gents, but Kylie all the way.

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 2:13 pm
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Dannii [i]and[/i] Kylie for me

Dream on 🙂

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 2:17 pm
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I am a teacher of souls

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 2:18 pm
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I managed to convince a hard-core biker at my first job that what he really wanted was an MG Midget. He came over to my parents' place out in the sticks to show it off, then put it into a field on the way back to his after not making a corner.

He'd only had it a week.

 
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It can be very difficult, a lot of people tend to formulate an opinion and then look for evidence to support their conclusion. There has been lots of research on confirmation bias and how people will overlook evidence that contradicts their opinions. I've not bothered to look for the evidence not supporting this phenomenon though 🙂

 
Posted : 21/12/2011 2:23 pm

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