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"Ich schäme mich für meinen land" is something I've said more than once recently.
I'm hoping that it'll all get knocked on the head and brushed under the carpet.
I hate this state of limbo.
Europe is made up of France and Germany with 25 other hangers on providing a bit of mutual support for each other and paying into the protection racket?
The other 25 countries ?
Haven't you got a Daily Express editorial column to be writing?
I will agree that there is an element of truth to that outlook, but you could also argue that Europe is 27 nations trying to work together. There is inequality amongst the individual countries, but the main goal is to change that and work together.
*awaits the use of the phrase 'federalist superstate'*
The continent of Europe contains 44 countries.
Even the most blinkered of nationalistic, populists douchebags across the EU will be looking at Brexit with a frown.
Ever since the ref public opinion of the EU has improved, even in countries with strong nationilst surges like Austria, Greece & Italy
The lesson is that it doesn't matter how many people you can get to vote for your unicorns
Without a plan it will be a humiliating disaster.
So cheers brexiteers your deceit & incompetence has at least had some positive effects!
The UK needs a reset in terms of its attitude towards the rest of the world, although I’d take that article with a pinch of salt - the most nationalistic people on the planet are Indians.
SOAS who are about the most “woke” university in the UK consider that India will never amount to be a leading global nation.
SOAS.AC.UK What is this demographic challenge? Well, an analysis of global population trends shows that over time, most likely by 2025, India will become the world’s most populous nation. But much of this growth is taking place in two states: Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. These two states are India’s largest and third largest states (with a combined population of 302m), but also India’s two poorest states (with a per capita income ranging from US$347 to US$450 a year). In this light, vibrant economic growth is unlikely to be sustainable in India. We are already witnessing the first signs of stagnation in the Indian economy.
In order for India to be a global power in the 21st century, it would need to develop its military capabilities and diminish its dependence on natural resources. The country would also have to devote substantial fiscal resources towards military expenditure.
Given the burden of a rapidly growing poor and unskilled population, it is hard to fathom how the Indian state will be able to allocate scarce resources into making it a militarily and economically powerful nation
They are desperate for visas to try and hoover up as much expertise as possible, like China was a few decades ago.
Haven’t you got a Daily Express editorial column to be writing?
I suppose it's only marginally better than cut, copy & pasting the daily mash or whatever they think up for you.
The continent of Europe contains 44 countries.
Even better what do the other 42 do then? Other than pay into the protection racket.
I think you may have to look up the meaning of 'protection racket'. Just a minor detail but I don't think that many protection rackets end up as net contributors to their protection racket, actually paying money out. And the other members of said schemes don't generally end up as net beneficiaries.
France and Germany need to maybe take some advice from Big Vern..
Your knowledge of the EU is strong. Not all European countries are in the EU.
But you knew that, so keep trolling and come back in another 20 pages with your great one liner.
Maybe it is time to cut Scotland and Ireland loose, see how they get on.
I'm game, maybe England could just declare independence from the UK and leave the other 3 countries in the EU.
Wales will stick with us till the bitter end
the question is will NI or scorland hit the ejector seat button before johnson launches us turbo charged off the cliff edge?!
little britain here we come!
OI! Don't you be running off and leaving us with all those mad bastards.
Don't lump the English all in together
I've already mentioned the solution... Independence for the South East of England. Thats who's responsible for this madness. This is the decades log obsession almost exclusively of the flag-waving eejits in the home counties.
Those lot can float off towards America, and I reckon the rest of us would get on just fine, remaining in the EU 😀
I think you may have to look up the meaning of ‘protection racket’. Just a minor detail but I don’t think that many protection rackets end up as net contributors to their protection racket, actually paying money out. And the other members of said schemes don’t generally end up as net beneficiaries.
At least it was VIZ and not the mash ad nauseum.
The rest was just the usual I'm right because my other agreeable people say so drivel, Suck it up buttercup its happening and your moaning on the web about it did nothing.
Wales will stick with us till the bitter end
Because they have nothing else. FFS what does Wales have to actually offer. No oil whisky or salmon.
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OI! Don’t you be running off and leaving us with all those mad bastards.Don’t lump the English all in together
thats the genuine nightmare, diminshed & humiliated already from brexit, wangland will keep on electing Tories until we are a singaporean tax haven for the rich and eternal austerity for the rest of us. We'd not be sad to see the back of the DUP obviously but at least the SNP keep the Tories damped down!
Bring on the sunlit uplands!!!!
The rest was just the usual I’m right because my other agreeable people say so drivel,
erm actually he just pointed out that your claim it was a protection racket was poorly thought through (much like brexit in general!)
It gets better.
Just read how much Ireland , Scotland and the Welsh actual cost us to support including the whiny northern scum that complain its all so unfair about how London is the most important part of the country
erm actually he just pointed out that your claim it was a protection racket was poorly thought through (much like brexit in general!)
No he didn't he missed the fact that like most protectionist operations unless your paying in you don't get the benefits of the big hitters.
That Phil bloke seems well informed about other countries. and generous in outlook towards his fellow Brits, doesn’t he? I feel we might learn much from him.
including the whiny northern scum
It’s so unfair when the rich southerners call us names.
Perhaps if we all acknowledged our obvious inferiority to the master race daaaaahn saaaaarf they'd be nicer to us?
If you consider the rest of the country irrelevant Phil, shouldn’t you be a remainder like that Indian author of the Guardian article?
Without London, the rest of England would be pretty poor. And this whole Brexit issue is not the fault of the “South East”, far from it… anywhere in Wangland where anti-immigrant and anti-EU sentiment could be stirred up there was strong support for burning down our current arrangements. No where is there clear support for anything to replace them though… which is why the “No Deal” idea is being pushed so hard… we still can’t see a plan for our new arrangements to scrutinise… because there still isn’t one which “the People” will support more than our current, slowly evolving, arrangements, in any part of the UK, never mind across all of it.
That Phil bloke seems well informed about other countries. and generous in outlook towards his fellow Brits, doesn’t he? I feel we might learn much from him.
Indeed.
So much so that i've just emailed my MP demanding that she petition the Government to withdraw it's support for Scotland immediately and cut them loose from the so called Union
She emailed me straight back and said she's all over it and can count on the unwavering support of at least 34 other MP's
Thanks Phil!
#voteforphil
That Phil bloke seems well informed about other countries. and generous in outlook towards his fellow Brits, doesn’t he? I feel we might learn much from him.
And within minutes one shows up, its like the saying you're never more than 6 feet from a rat.
Perhaps if we all acknowledged our obvious inferiority to the master race daaaaahn saaaaarf they’d be nicer to us?
No and you would still be carrying on like a mug, the French would have burned the country to the ground by now , you wouldn't catch them taking snippets from websites and posting them on the web in protest for their mates to have a chortle at.
Carry on complaining whilst it happens in front of you and doing nothing about it.
The aftermath where you say there's nothing we could do will be equally as brilliant.
And within minutes one shows up, its like the saying you’re never more than 6 feet from a rat.
That's only in the South East of England.
In Wales, you're never more than six feet from a sheep, in Scotland it's a deer. and in t'north it's a whippet.
In all these areas you're also never more than six feet away from an ungrateful sponging scumbag.
Apparently
One what Phil?
I think, if I'm reading this right, we should all be a little bit more French.
Bagsy being Eric Cantona
And I think I've sussed out who Phil Really is
Its you, isn't it Mark?
FFS what does Wales have to actually offer. No oil whisky or salmon.
Water innit.
oh jeeze, francois has a picture of the dambusters on his wall
thats perfect
oh jeeze, francois has a picture of the dambusters on his wall
He was in the Territorial Dambusters but he doesn't like to talk about it.
FFS what does Wales have to actually offer. No oil whisky or salmon.
Water innit.
And the letter 'Y'.
The English alphabet only used to be 25 letters and excluded the now ubiquitous letter Y.
But the Welsh, having first invented it for the production of long road signs that didn't use vowels, then ended up with a glut of them and started exporting them. Initially this was confined to the rest of the UK, where they were mainly used for adding to peoples surnames to make nicknames at school, but it eventually went global.
The original manufacturer of 'Y's, just outside Aberystwyth ceased production in 1993, when production was outsourced to China
Their is still no equivalent of the letter Y in Myanmar and it is actually pronounced Manmar
It's also somewhat ironic that despite an overproduction of the letter L in Wales, they export so many that some Welsh learner drivers have to make do with D plates instead.
That’ll be why they always sing about noel at Christmas then
FFS what does Wales have to actually offer.
Not much after the English stole all the natural resources.
He was a bouncing bomb in the Territorial Dambusters but he doesn’t like to talk about it.
So the government's two-pronged strategy of preparing for a GE and blaming the EU for the seemingly inevitable no-deal car crash Brexit appears to be in full swing now. The really sad part is they're going to get away with it (the EU taking the blame bit anyway), hopefully there's not enough sheeple that make their decisions based on propaganda ads on Facebook that they'll actually win a GE but I'm not holding out much hope anymore (actually I'm more imagining it will end up a Brexit & Tory coalition government). Lets hope the Scots get independence and some of us can go there as refugees.
The really sad part is they’re going to get away with it (the EU taking the blame bit anyway)
I do not think they are kidding anyone on in this country, look at the top rated comments in the BBC news story about Gove blaming the EU and nearly everyone is blaming the Tory party and saying the EU has done more than enough. If nowt else good comes out of this I personally think the tory party will be finished after this.
That is just the BBC website though. What about if you looked at the comments of The Mail for the same story, or The Times, or any other newspaper that publishes? That doesn't even take into account people that are not motivated enough to write something back, probably about the other 65 million people in the country.
I fear that they're absolutely going to get away with blaming the EU for everything as it all goes to shit at the end of October when we crash out
For the same reason they got away with all their lies, misinformation and straight-up bullshit during the referendum campaign
They've been building this anti-EU narrative for decades. The man who was mainly responsible for it is now PM. And millions and millions of people have bought into this crap and love the plucky old Britain England, standing alone against Europe claptrap
I worry that not only are Boris, Gove and Cummings going to cause chaos by crashing us out, they will then blame everyone else but themselves, wrap themselves in union jacks, and with the unwavering support of their mates in the anti-EU press, win a general election off the back of it too
The rhetoric is clearly being ratcheted up already. This is only going to get worse and worse as the deadline looms.
I don't think for one minute that they're bluffing. I think the decision has been made. They're crashing us out with no deal. They're presently setting the scene for apportioning blame
I wish Binners would stop writing posts that I agree with. I miss the old days when he seemed more comically unhinged rather than a truthsayer. More pointlessly diverting pictures please Binners, and less of the astute observations of the hole we’re falling into at speed. Thanks. Also, I hope that you prove to be wrong on this. Hope… hope… hope… (yeah, right).
They’re crashing us out with no deal
I recall that the EU had made some concessions to protect us from our own stupidity and allow a grace period of some sort if there was a no deal exit. Anyone know if that is still valid, or was it linked to the March timetable?
I do not think they are kidding anyone on in this country, look at the top rated comments in the BBC news story about Gove blaming the EU and nearly everyone is blaming the Tory party and saying the EU has done more than enough. If nowt else good comes out of this I personally think the tory party will be finished after this.
Just looked at the BBC comments - ususally just look & then sigh resignedly. But having actually looked at the top rated for once I actually left the website less angryily than when I started reading the comments.