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It's Ok - they pushed Brexit to the sidelines to have a chat about Winston Churchill instead.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 1:41 pm
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As I've been saying for months now… you should be ignoring gov advice (May even repeated this in the last week) to not build up your own medical supplies. Listen to those who supply the NHS not the lying politicans who truely do not care about you and yours. We have 3 months rather than 1 month of insulin in the fridge now. Supplies will keep coming, but the chance of temporary shortages is far from zero… anything you need to keep you alive, rather than just make your life better, you should be taking steps to ensure continuity of availability yourself. Now. Not tomorrow. Now. Do not rely on just in time prescriptions.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 1:45 pm
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Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day...

Except a digital one. They're just ****ed. Like us.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 1:57 pm
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Please read my whole post for context.

Don't be so ****ing stupid this is the forum where one of the same ten people snip the bit they need to service their own argument.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 2:21 pm
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First we discover the cake is a lie, now it seems there's not going to be any Pi either.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/industry/127463-raspberry-pi-chairman-signals-manufacturing-will-move-abroad

Raspberry Pi production to move away from the UK - literally out of the horse's mouth - "because of Brexit."

"Real businesses. Real employment. Real taxes. Lost,"


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 3:57 pm
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I thought that his comments were about another business, and nothing to do with the Pi? I'm sure he said so on twitter… I should read your link I suppose…


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 3:59 pm
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Ah, looks like he has since had to repeat many many times on twitter that it's nothing to do with the Pi! Amateur level journalists must try harder.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:03 pm
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If they simply pushed the Brexit date to 01/04/19 they could pass the whole thing off as a really bad joke.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:14 pm
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From where I’m standing the EU is a major pusher of globalisation and free markets.

well, we are about to see what the alternative is. You'll soon change your tune.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:14 pm
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You’ll soon change your tune.

To I'm a Be-Leaver.?


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:18 pm
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Shamelessly stolen from Reddit...
Brexit economy


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:22 pm
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Cringe factor to 10.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:51 pm
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not sure if this has been posted before (appos if it has)

LEAVER: I want an omelette.

REMAINER: Right. It’s just we haven’t got any eggs.

LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]

REMAINER: They’re in the cake.

LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.

REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.

LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.

REMAINER: Icing is good.

LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I don’t like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.

DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.

DAVID CAMERON: OK.

DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.

LEAVER: Right, where’s my omelette?

REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.

LEAVER: Well, get them out.

EU: It’s our cake.

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.

REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Don’t you know how to get them out?

LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.

REMAINER: But how?! Didn’t you give this any thought?

LEAVER: Saboteur! You’re talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so there’s no reason why we can’t make them now.

THERESA MAY: It’s OK, I can do it.

REMAINER: How?

THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.

REMAINER: Yeah, but…

LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we don’t have any cake? I didn’t say I didn’t want the cake, just the bits I don’t like.

EU: It’s our cake.

REMAINER: But you can’t take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.

LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. It’s just that they’re horrible.

REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.

LEAVER: It’s not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.

REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?

LEAVER: You lost, get over it.

THERESA MAY: By the way, I’ve started the clock on this.

REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?

THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.

REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.

EU: It’s our cake.

LEAVER: Where’s my omelette? I voted for an omelette.

REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what we’re doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.

LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.

REMAINER: Fine, I’m moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.

LEAVER: You can’t. We’ve taken your freedom of movement.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 4:52 pm
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Cringe factor to 10

I'll take it back...swap her for the isis woman in the refugee camp...


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:11 pm
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Conservative Remain-supporter Dominic Grieve says that "apart from a small minority in this House, who are absolutely fixated and persuaded that we can part company with our nearest neighbours", MPs generally believe that Brexit, in whatever form, will be damaging to the country.

"We are tying ourselves up in knots and that's why we are paralysed," he states.

"Threatening to leave is the behaviour of a three-year-old who says they will hold their breath if they do not get the toy they want," he adds.

"We cannot allow this to happen," he says, adding that "Brexit is not a sacred duty at all, but a rather profane matter".

He says he is "really alarmed" that the prime minister does not seem to understand his view that his "sacred duty" is to prevent it.

"There is going to come a time when my ability to support this government is going to run out," he finishes.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:21 pm
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Ah, looks like he has since had to repeat many many times on twitter that it’s nothing to do with the Pi! Amateur level journalists must try harder.

Yeah. There's an update on the page explaining that now, that wasn't there when I originally read the article.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:23 pm
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“There is going to come a time when my ability to support this government is going to run out,” he finishes.

Next PM?


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:25 pm
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“Threatening to leave is the behaviour of a three-year-old who says they will hold their breath if they do not get the toy they want,” he adds.

“There is going to come a time when my ability to support this government is going to run out,” he finishes.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:38 pm
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I assume there was a point there? You seem to have missed one.....


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:43 pm
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Seemed to be a little bit of a contradiction. He's threatening to leave if he doesn't get what he wants.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:44 pm
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Not really, he has supported the government for a long time while they throw tantrums and reject any method to get out of the situation they are in.

He is perfectly resonable saying that you can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results you are mad.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:52 pm
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He’s threatening to leave if he doesn’t get what he wants.

No, he's stating that he'll have to. That's not using it as leverage, that's just showing his desperation at the situation.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:55 pm
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** realises he's made the mistake of commenting on the Brexit thread and backs away **


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 6:24 pm
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No problem sharing your views, do you think he should keep doing what is delivering nothing?


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 6:43 pm
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A reminder that large multinationals will easily work around all this rubbish, and many already have their exit plans well underway… small British companies on the other hand are just waiting and hoping…

https://twitter.com/brucereuters/status/1096102431367274496?s=21


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 6:55 pm
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"An SNP amendment, which was also backed by the Liberal Democrats, calling for Britain's departure from the EU on 29 March to be delayed by three months, was defeated by 93 votes to 315, after most Labour MPs abstained." WT actual F?


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 6:57 pm
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I assume that Labour still feel the date can force something. Delay would be last option.
Defeat of government ammendment does sound like a lack of confidence from the erg at least, well until asked. I do get the feeling the tory remainers will break away and rebel first though.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:00 pm
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WT actual F?

That's the thing… lots of "stop no deal Brexit" MPs vote against any measure that could help prevent it. And Labour whipped its MPs to abstain.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:01 pm
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There is also talk of labour MP's resigning the party whip, I wonder if there is going to be a new pro Europe party forming from members of the current big 2, at least until we get out of this mess.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:06 pm
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On 28th March Will Labour still be calling for that general election?


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:06 pm
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Another massive vote against the government.

What, I wonder, will it take to make May admit it's already gone nipples skyward? 😯


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:10 pm
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Parliament will vote against anything and everything … but for nothing. But then, that's the mandate of the Referendum…

"What do we want?"
"Not this!"
"When do we want it?"
"Have those traitors not got on and done it for us yet?!?"


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:16 pm
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What do we reckon ?

Maybots programming has secretly been by Johnson. & The whole of Brexit has been an elaborate ruse to get him elected PM?

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1096107756782792704?s=19


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:32 pm
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No problem sharing your views, do you think he should keep doing what is delivering nothing?

I'm not sure what I've written that makes you think that that's my opinion. Any opposition to this ridiculous situation is all good by me, but him stating that people who threaten to flounce are stupid, and then implying he'll flounce himself is a bit silly.

You and Molgrips don't seem to think that it is - I'm "backing away slowly" as that makes it a conversation that can only deteriorate into a Monty Python 5 minute argument.

EDIT: Awaits "No it isn't" response...


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:40 pm
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This, of course, is all academic as we're not going to be leaving on 29th March.

JP


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 8:04 pm
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You and Molgrips don’t seem to think that it is

Just voicing an opinion mate.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 8:21 pm
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You and Molgrips don’t seem to think that it is

TBH I'm amazed that there haven't already been wholesale flounces on both sides. The only thing I think stopping this is that MPs realise that the two main parties splitting will simply invite more chaos and deflect attention from the nutters who rightly should own this mess.

Both May and Corbyn are walking tightropes. They can't get to the other side if their respective parties split. It will be interesting to hear in future when we look back just what they have been discussing behind closed doors in their meetings. Something tells me they will be cooperating with each other a lot more than seems the case as their interests are aligned.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 8:35 pm
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** realises he’s made the mistake of commenting on the Brexit thread and backs away **

Too late now you’ve opened the box 🙂


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 8:49 pm
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Mrs S. says he's leaving it pretty late.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 9:05 pm
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What do we reckon ?

A bit of an anti-climax. 😀


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 9:19 pm
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Nichola Sturgeon was bang on today saying “Labour is acting as the midwife for the Tory’s Brexit”

Anne Soubry was also right to call the labour front bench out as cowards for sitting back and letting the Tory’s get on with it. AND SHE’S A TORY FFS!!

I expect the Tory’s to be *s! It’s in their DNA. Its what they do. I do expect more of the Labour Party though. Much more!

Christ, have I been disappointed. And not in a ‘I’m not angry, I’m just disappointed’ way. I’m really *ing angry with the stupid, lying, spineless beardy *!

Seems Corbyn and his mob are more than happy to run the clock down with Theresa, indulge the ERG and crash out, totally *ing the very people they’re meant to represent.

I can’t help wondering where we’d be if the Tory party had actually been faced with an actual opposition instead of this bunch of Brexiteer cowards?! They haven’t even got the bollocks to come out and say what they are.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 9:48 pm
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Seems Corbyn and his mob are more than happy to run the clock down with Theresa, indulge the ERG and crash out, totally ****ing the very people they’re meant to represent.

Sigh. See my post above. Corbyn's primary aim is to hold his party together. Yes, he's anti-EU, no one is denying that. Is he pro-brexit? He's declared he's pro-brexit because he's a democrat and respects the referendum result. Is he a pro-ERG hard brexiteer seeking no deal? He's as much one of those as he is a racist or soviet spy.

He's pursuing a soft(er) brexit because that holds the best chance of keeping his party together, preserving his electoral chances, and yes because it probably chimes with his only personal views. I know that doesn't fit with your hope that brexit should be cancelled. It doesn't with mine either, but he has undeniable reasons for taking this stance. This pro-ERG stuff is simply bonkers conspiracy theory stuff.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 10:08 pm
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It's just bollocks. Wake up and see what's staring you in the face. People are so desperate to believe in the man.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 10:11 pm
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the stupid, lying, spineless beardy ****!

Not sure spineless is the right word. I mean you disagree on the EU, fine, but spineless just because he's not standing up for what *you* want...?


 
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