You actually have 2 years to come up with a tech solution, as agreeing the backstop means we get the interim period of trading while arguing about stuff goes on to step 2. Only if there is no solution at the end of this 2 years is the backstop activated.
Crazy to think all this arguing is just about the framework for the main argument.
You actually have 2 years to come up with a tech solution, as agreeing the backstop
Ah that makes sense ..time to become mates with an MP then who knows a mate who knows someone coming up with this tech to get a government contract.
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Or more accurately, come up with a tech solution that is acceptable to all the stake holders, test it, deploy it and having it up and running within 2 years. As we don't have the details of what this magic tech is, how much it costs or what infrastructure it requires it's a long shot. I'm also after some clarification how the walking/driving through a field controls will be enforced to the satisfaction of all parties.
It's like nobody has bothered to do any work on this in the last 2 years at all.
What exactly is this new technology
Let us be very clear it is new and it is technology.
Does that answer it for you?
If not.
How about we are clear that it is both technology and new.
The Border enforcement technology will simply be the latest in a long line of on time and on budget, functional Government procured IT projects.
Imagine trying to police the smuggling of high value items by drone.
what infrastructure it requires
I'll bet it's a Unic's based solution 😉
Certain amount of repetition on this topic.
I would say an unhealthy obsession and one that doesn’t appear to be shared.
You’re not paying attention.
Or more accurately, come up with a tech solution that is acceptable to all the stake holders, test it, deploy it and having it up and running within 2 years
Ah like an honesty box then..
Filled with Crapita-supplied pixie dust.
As someone has already said, on time, under budget and totally 100% fit for purpose.
New brexit date announced.
You actually have 2 years to come up with a tech solution, as agreeing the backstop means we get the interim period of trading while arguing about stuff goes on to step 2. Only if there is no solution at the end of this 2 years is the backstop activated.
As I understand it, the EU has offered us the chance to extend the transition period to December 2022 - so that's nearly four years, if we choose.
Four years to implement a solution that merely requires 'a bit of goodwill from the EU', (Sajid Javid, last week) apparently.
What's the matter? Don't they believe themselves?
Have we done Daniel Kawczynski?
He's another Hunt that should be tarred and feathered. I am embarrassed to be from Shrewsbury 😡
The tech solution thing is a joke, Sajid Javid was blatantly lying on yesterday, bit shameful that Marr didn't challenge him for details.
Looking at the government history on delivering big infrastructure projects a tech solution to the no border is likely to cost £bns more than planned (crossrail), be years late & cause immense disruption (universal credit) ultimately to be abandoned as impossible after many costly years (NHS IT upgrade)
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& Kawczynzsky is blatantly & shamelessly lying, but no one in the media seems to want to properly challenge him on it
This Labour leadership reached their high water mark at the last election. They'll get taken apart if there's an election now. Anyone who voted for them to take away May's mandate will likely desert then after their performance over the last couple of years, and the Tories, toady ****s that they are, will consolidate, because it's been shown, again, that it really doesn't matter who you vote for, the government still get in.
As my Labour MP said 'if we have a general election now, we'll get slaughtered'
Time for Corbyn to shit or get off the pot.
& Kawczynzsky is blatantly & shamelessly lying, but no one in the media seems to want to properly challenge him on it
Twitter is awash with journalists challenging it - which is where the claim was made - but ignoring Twitter would markedly improve most political coverage.
I’ll bet it’s a Unic’s based solution 😉
That's the funniest thing I've ever read on the Internet, today. Well played.
Time for Corbyn to shit or get off the pot.
Yep, he brought Labour back to being based on Labour principles again and got new support but he hasn't got a clue about playing the politics game or thinking how things will look or be played by the media or Tory party.
Shamelessly lifted from the Guardian comments today.
'The Government could have bought Sunderland Messi for #80 million. That would have boosted the economy'.
Are there any companies that have expressed an interest in moving to the UK post Brexit, so they can benefit from Brexit and our promised Brexit dividend?
If true - surely the best reason yet to revoke article 50...
https://twitter.com/RosChappell/status/1092234489105915912
UK to wave EU goods through unchecked in no deal brexit..
The EU will never reciprocate, but great news for smugglers on the continent.. "what was in those 8 containers you shipped last month?"
"err... bog roll mate, honest".
#takeback control.
"Taking control of our borders"?
"The EU will never reciprocate, but great news for smugglers on the continent.. “what was in those 8 containers you shipped last month?”
“err… bog roll mate, honest”.
#takeback control."
listen, if that means more affordable drugs, weapons and contraband on our British streets then I for one am all for that. Finally some good news.
The EU will never reciprocate
Interesting, what happens at the NI/RoI border if goods is waved through on our side, and then the EU checks it, surely that's them imposing a hard border and breaching the GFA?
I’m going to start smoking again once I can get 200 Bensons for a tenner, down the pub
Let the people trafficking begin.... those potatoes won't pick themselves!
Interesting, what happens at the NI/RoI border if goods is waved through on our side, and then the EU checks it, surely that’s them imposing a hard border and breaching the GFA?
What happens if we start to import crap from around the world and stop following EU rule book then they have to impose hard border because of our actions (we force their breaking of GFA).
Mmmmmm... chlorine washed chicken
Another way to put it would be a military coalition.
Mutualy agreed, with each country having a veto or abstaining from using thier own forces.
How very democratic.
One does have to wonder what corbyns perogative is.
He wants socialism but only in engeraland? And only on his terms?
Jeremy!!!
Wow a bung as well as tax breaks for Nissan, no wonder they didn't want to publish the letter. And you thought you'd seen the back of British Leyland in the seventies.
A bit like the railways fiasco, which is still subsidised to sum tune. Still it's cheap for the end user, both directly and in directly isn't it!
A bit like the railways fiasco, which is still subsidised to sum tune. Still it’s cheap for the end user, both directly and in directly isn’t it!
The figure will look like peanuts compared to the problems when production scales back. There are knock on's all over the place from that and some that might be impacting us at some point in the future.
But back on track it's seems good that people are spending their time searching Corbyn's past, good job the PM's skeletons are all out in the open for people to see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_African-Caribbean_people#Windrush_scandal
But in reality another week and nothing has happened, no new deal, no renegotiation, some veiled threats to the EU from cabinet ministers and nothing changes, I guess you could say May in simply enabling a no deal crash and burn strategy here, she certainly seems completely complicit in it.
Can I smell a retraction?
I can hope.
Another thing I am slightly puzzled by is maybot insurance that she delivers the will of the people and how brexit is so important theres a ****ing list as long as the transpennine trail of things the people have asked for in the past and none of it has ever happened or been important enough for her government to giveashit about.
Another thing I am slightly puzzled by is maybot insurance that she delivers the will of the people
Sarcasm smiley missing? It's only about tryi g to remain in power and deal with the lunatics in her party
He wants socialism but only in engeraland? And only on his terms?
Well it woudld be pretty difficult for him to change the whole free market EU to socialism wouldn't it...
Arlene Foster has just been interviewed o Radio 4.It went exactly as expected.
I really can't think of a more backward-looking, intransigent, self-serving and generally unpleasant human being to hold such a huge amount of influence. Given that she's presently lined up with the ERG headbangers in holding May to ransom I wouldn't hold out much hope of any progress. These people are totally incapable of compromise, and they know, full well, that May will cave in to them every single time.
Arlene might as well have stood in front of a big UVF Red Hand flag with an AK-47, shouted NO SURRENDER, then invoked the spirit of Ian Paisley and shot a catholic taxi driver from Dundalk.
No Deal, here we come! Because these ****ers absolutely will not budge, no matter what the cost to everyone else
Be interesting to hear how May squares the will of the people whilst in NI today when the majority there voted to stay in the EU and not for the Dup dinosaur policies.
Edit for the binners post, Foster is one of the great drivers for a united Ireland. Who with youth, hope and experience of multiculturalism on their side would want bigots like her and her wood pellet burning ilk running the show
I really can’t think of a more backward-looking, intransigent, self-serving and generally unpleasant human being to hold such a huge amount of influence. Given that she’s presently lined up with the ERG headbangers in holding May to ransom I wouldn’t hold out much hope of any progress. These people are totally incapable of compromise.And they know full well that May will cave in to them every single time.
Arlene might as well have stood in front of a big UVF Red Hand flag with an AK-47, shouted NO SURRENDER, then invoked the spirit of Ian Paisley, and shot a catholic taxi driver from Dundalk.
No Deal, here we come! Because these ****ers absolutely will not budge, no matter what the cost to everyone else
Can't have been as surreal as the 20 something American politics democrat house junior pointing out that the American government will not allow Ireland to return to the troubles of the past....FFS it happened before you read about it in college moron let alone were born
And these are the idiots we will have to get deeper into bed with
😄 For mike
Mays only aim in all this is to stop the tories splitting. Nothing else. To keep them together she has to placate the ERG headbangers. She will not do a deal on a soft brexit which would get a lot of support from labour and be the lest damaging leave option and quite possibly get a majority in the commons because the hard right will split off. Its party before country every time
@Mike - to be fair nobody here is supporting TM, as everyone agrees she is tory first, country second. Jezza on the other hand doesn't appear to effectively oppose HM Governments tory inspired ideological Brexit with any real conviction.
