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Mate of mine works at Tesla quite often. Says Elon is really ****ing odd.
He quite likes working there though. The upshot of Elon thinking he can do everything better than everyone else is that he refuses to hire people with any experience. So he hires a bunch of extremely bright, extremely motivated 20-somethings, who don't know what they're doing, but learn quickly and are fun to be around. It does sound quite a laugh sometimes
So he hires a bunch of extremely bright, extremely motivated 20-somethings, who don’t know what they’re doing, but learn quickly and are fun to be around. It does sound quite a laugh sometimes
Problem there is that they don't have the experience or seniority to ask tough questions and point out when Musk is doing dumb shit. The Hyperloop was always bullshit, Musk was just making impossible promises, as usual. This suggest he knew that and was just using it to sabotage public transit plans in California. If Musk had hired engineers with experience on high-speed rail, they would have told him his dreams were just fantasies and then he would have had to sack them. Hiring kids straight out of school means it will take several years for them to see through the bullshit.
https://twitter.com/alexdemling/status/1557221632837505025
It’ll be interesting to see if he can wriggle out of it.
Dusting this off. It would seem the answer is no he cant.
Announced he is going ahead now just prior to the case kicking off properly. I assume he was told he was going to lose badly quite possibly risking having some stuff out in the public domain he really would prefer not to be.
There were some rather embarrassing/sad messages about the financing side of things which didnt shine a great light on all those involved already.
Spinning it as a new ground braking app called X???
Realized he would be hung out to dry in court and his financial dealing being looked into via the SEC in the US
Musk said public transit was “a pain in the ass”
Man who has had wealth his entire life in "Not understanding how everyone else lives" shocker. Christ, rich idiots are such a PITA
Spinning it as a new ground braking app called X???
Which apparently is going to do everything. Ho hum.
Going to be some upset bankers at Morgan Stanley and a few other banks who had agreed to provide 13 billion of financing for it. Since if they dont find someone to see it to then they have to carry the cost themselves and not much chance of finding many people interested at least without a steep discount.
I guess they realised they were screwed back at the start of the lawsuit but still had a glimmer of hope remaining.
Seems he's an apologist for Russian expansion:
The ****.
I've Never Met a Nice South African.
Anyone watched the Elon Musk Show on iPlayer? Worth watching? Is all singing his praises or actually more balanced?
My prediction on doge came true 10% rise before he needed cash for Twitter even though the banks look to have funded most of the deal.
I've not seen the been show I imagine he controls the output?
The Twitter hellscape seems to be turning things up to 11.
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1585830279372996609
It's going to be amazing watching this absolute helmet do a Kanye and flush 44 billion down the drain.
I can not wait.
I'm going to miss twitter, could be a really good source of interesting opinions & expert knowledge
Monty Burns buying it marks it's end, I fear, really hope I'm wrong
But the Kanye thing perfectly summed it up
https://twitter.com/HeatherMoAndCo/status/1585809481602064384?t=ZvaIIj430WPgVo7tRrz4gA&s=19
Has he turned it into 4chan yet?
He has sacked the top level exc team. I bet trump is back by the weekend's cull of other staff.
Elon is a dangerous man
Someone said that the best thing Musk could do with Twitter was buy it and close it. Looks like he's just going to let it burn itself down instead.
It’s going to be amazing watching this absolute helmet do a Kanye and flush 44 billion down the drain.
Elon's going to soon discover the same thing the owners of Gab, Parler, Truth Social etc either knew from the start or soon found out, making any actual money from social media depends on having a huge user base with loads of 'normies' who actually buy stuff for your advertisers to market to.
Any corner of the internet that declares itself a 'Free Speech Fundamentalist' zone eventually ends up flooded with Nazis, Pedophiles and Scammers, basically the very worst people imaginable. As a result the 'normies' very sensibly decide they can't be bothered with all this, leave and take their advertising dollars with them.
Then the trolls, with no 'libs' to 'trigger' eventually get bored and go elsewhere as for the average sadist it's no fun when you have nobody to be horrible to.
It would all be very funny if the process wasn't going to involve so many people from minority groups being subjected to a torrent of horrific abuse, intimidation and threats.
I'm sure the former CEO/CFO are delighted he didn't try to keep them on. Over 100m in severance payments between them and no need to try to sit through the Russian botfest to come.
Caher
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I’ve Never Met a Nice South African.
Pretty poor post no matter the subject to group all South Africans together.
It is sad as I will probably just leave twitter. It is still my main news feed from local government, police etc. I've also tried Facebook for current news, but their algorithms are terrible so you keep getting things a day to 2 after it happens.
How much do we bet that tech nerds at Google/Apple/ Facebook are, as we speak, frantically writing code for a a "Twitter-alike" and are forecasting that it needs to be in place in this quarter.
Why would you? Social media companies sound like a absolute nightmare to run. Leave it to ByteDance while you sit back and enjoy the spectacle of watching Zuckerberg and Musk walk in ever smaller circles until they disappear up their own arseholes.
dead in the water
Pretty poor post no matter the subject to group all South Africans together.
Not a Spitting Image fan then?
PS Thanks Caher for earworming me. This is torture.
Why would you?
Twitter earns something like $5B a year, doesn't it? You have to understand that that's how Silicon Valley works, it's the Free Market capital of the world, it may have at one point been home to nerds and misfits, but those people are now chained to their desks making money for people like Elon. If something doesn't work (Twitter) then the answer is not, rake over the coals to see what went wrong and do better next time, the answer is (according the Silicon valley executives) make another one, the first one made a shit tone of money.
Why would you?
Because they have the potential to be massive social influence machines and wealthy egomaniacs love the feel of all that power in their hands.
Whether that means they can actually control what influence these platforms have or whether they just end up 'riding the tiger' is another matter entirely.
Any corner of the internet that declares itself a ‘Free Speech Fundamentalist’ zone eventually ends up flooded with Nazis, Pedophiles and Scammers, basically the very worst people imaginable. As a result the ‘normies’ very sensibly decide they can’t be bothered with all this, leave and take their advertising dollars with them.
Exactly this, the few of the FB or Twitter alternatives I've tried (MeWe was the last I think) after failing to get a good size user base normally start to play the "Free speech" card and within weeks every other avatar is AR-16s or a misappropriated pepe the frog at which point all the normal leave. If Musk turns Twitter into a free for all it'll dead in no time, it's not like the internet isn't littered with yesterday's must be on platforms.
Anyone watched the Elon Musk Show on iPlayer? Worth watching? Is all singing his praises or actually more balanced?
I caught the last episode....he came across as a terrible human being who has never had anyone tell him "no". And having seen his parents interviews, particularly the mother, you can see why he's so deeply deeply unpleasant
Robert Evans did a few episodes on him in Behind The Bastards a while back. He really is a massive ****.
No longer a lefty echo chamber? Sounds great, I'll rejoin.
Reminds me of another so called mountain bike site that's a lefty echo chamber. Lolz
Good luck with the trolling there as it doesn't work well for you here...
I caught the last episode….he came across as a terrible human being who has never had anyone tell him “no”. And having seen his parents interviews, particularly the mother, you can see why he’s so deeply deeply unpleasant
I never realised his father was Sir Les Patterson 😉
I would imagine his Autism has a bearing on how he acts too
I would imagine his Autism has a bearing on how he acts too
Yep, that's the excuse I use.
Yep, that’s the excuse I use.
Not a believer then?
Or just have no experience of people with Autism?
I recognised it in him long before he "came out"
And doge hits another 10% after months of inactivity
Musk = fraud and a psychopath.
Just taken advantage of the new era of free speech on Twitter and called Farage a c**t.
*Cough* mastodon might be worth a look. Of course like all these things it needs critical mass to work.
So, if Zuckerberg is going off the rails with this Metaverse project and Musk ruins Twitter, is this the start of a new era?
Metaverse was, at least in part, a response to the fading popularity of facebook with an aging user base as the cool kids, literally, started using snapchat and then tiktok (then possibly other stuff. Not being either cool or young I dont know the finer details beyond facebook isnt doing well in that demographic). Previously it had been done by buying whatsapp and instagram but if the metaverse does work then its a massive lock in due to the hardware needed.
The meta verse is just another way to sell shit to folk dumb enough to sign up for it
And as for Elon buying Twitter?, this is a good explanation as to why he’s ****ed from the verge
The meta verse is just another way to sell shit to folk dumb enough to sign up for it
But if you do get people paying for it then, at least for the foreseeable future, you will have them locked into your platform.
It does seem a tad hopeful and mostly based on growing up reading cyberpunk stories although that said I do know a couple of people who have had to set up facebook accounts so they can play VR games so I guess thats some success?
My general point though was facebook was already facing long term problems and the metaverse was in large part a response to it rather than some random mad decision.
And as for Elon buying Twitter?, this is a good explanation as to why he’s **** from the verge
I have enjoyed over the last couple of days reading fanboy accounts of how he is a genius who is seeing far deeper than everyone else. They seem to have missed that he spent several months trying to exit the deal but, since he chose not to do due diligence, was pretty much guaranteed to lose the case based on the initial rulings.
That Verge article is very good.
He really has skewed himself with this purchase hasn't he?
Apparently there's another "bluesky" thing just created by the twitter crew. I would die laughing if everyone switched in a week leaving Musk with a 40 billion crater.
Yep, that’s the excuse I use.
Works for me too.
the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted... people who should know better but keep posting anyway.
looks around
coughs uncomfortably