but I think he’s media savvy enough to turn it to his advantage.
And yet not savvy enough not to tweet/conduct interviews when drunk or stoned.
not savvy enough not to tweet/conduct interviews when drunk or stoned.
On the contrary surely? While (at least to cynical & skeptical old farts such as your’s truly) Musk’s (for instance) Joe Rogan appearances might come over as horribly calculated/self-conscious, the ‘jokes and tokes’ of the middle-aged mega/rich keen to project an ‘I’m not like the other billionaires - trust me’ image…
… to the YouTube/meme-media/me-me-me-me generation/demographic surely Musk’s ‘kool with the kidz’ projection is radical, and real, and just the sort of fresh waters they’re thirsty for?* Not like that stuffy, heavily-censored and fake old mainstream/old-guard politics rubbish? Add to a degree (even though it’s all fake/hustling to my mind) that last point is still a point.
I believe it’s known as “good optics“
What do you throw a drowning lawyer?
It reminds me somewhat of Sick Bicycle Co's approach to product testing.
When you lay it out in simple terms like this, yep, it sure does look like a scam.
Thols2 - give your anti-Tesla diatribe a rest. You come across like a vaccine-denier picking and choosing the bits and pieces you can find in the media to support your case.
It literally says on the page with accident statistics "we count any crash in which Autopilot was deactivated within 5 seconds before impact".
You can overcome stupidity to an extent with technology, but eventually you will come across a sufficiently determined idiot.
So, if I understand this correctly, a frontal crash will usually mean the system failed whereas other crashes are more likely to be the fault of another vehicle. What this means is that the Tesla system is woeful at avoiding obstacles.
It literally says on the page with accident statistics “we count any crash in which Autopilot was deactivated within 5 seconds before impact”.
Ermm, yes?
You seem to be implying the person disabled it and then crashed for shits and giggles?
As opposed to it disengaged itself because its confused or the driver disengaging it by desperately slamming on the brakes/steering to try and dodge the scenario the self driving has put itself in.
I worked in the industry and I wouldn't trust any of these "semi autonomous" systems at all.
The company I worked for saw it as an advantage that the driver was ultimately responsible, as they could save millions on testing their systems properly. And don't expect the regulators to do the job either. I think for pedestrian detection, they just test it once and give it a pass or fail. For a system dealing with complex situations, human behaviours and weather conditions it's an incredibly poor way of making sure these things are robust.
The all-or-nothing approach is the only one that makes sense. Thats the approach taken by Waymo, Wayve, FiveAI amongst others. Google realised pretty early on humans are incredibly poor at watching and checking a semi autonomous car.
Google realised pretty early on humans are incredibly poor at watching and checking a semi autonomous car.
They are not that good/attentive when actually driving so take that responsibility away but expect them to still stay focused just in case is recipe for disaster.
I think the lesson here is
Don't announce multi billion dollar takeovers when you are high as shit!
So he's pulled out
Twitter are suing him and Twitter shareholders are likely too as well
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1545537997214564354?t=gORrOWNfVnf_uIPfg5WfrQ&s=19
He’s a bit rubbish at pulling out.
Not read the whole thread, so probably been mentioned multiple times, but it baffled me why the world's richest bloke would invest most of his fortune in a social media platform that could collapse/wither away into nothing - they all die eventually
would invest most of his fortune
I got the impression that he was largely getting the money from elsewhere rather than it all being his
I got the impression that he was largely getting the money from elsewhere rather than it all being his
Richest man in the world borrows money. Wow haha. Not disputing your input, but bloody hell, aint it ridiculous?
I thought he was rinsing Tesla for it though, hence the share crash?
Just sort the world debt you massive **** - that said, not sure who the world owes money to.....
H is about to spend the rest of his life in court fighting Twitter. Unless he moves to Mars.
He needs investigating by the SCC now. pump and dump king
Richest man in the world borrows money.
TBF If I was buying something like Twitter I wouldn't use my own money either.
He thought he was king Midas but has seen his Tesla stock drop & his crypto stock drop so now he's trying to back out after seeing (I presume) a lot of commercially sensitive details about Twitter.
This is/was a merger, not a takeover/purchase due to the share exchange. Tesla is overvalued, perhaps getting Twitter while those shares were overvalued was seen at the time as financially sound. Now that Tesla’s shares have dropped in value and the Twitter price is locked in, it seems like less of a good deal. Hence why he’s trying to back away from it. @$44bn and given Tesla’s recent stock fall, Twitter would need a substantially greater percentage of Tesla to complete the merger. That’s perhaps more percentage than Musk really wants to give.
It’ll be interesting to see if he can wriggle out of it.
This had the feel of the greatest showman in the world being the greatest showman in the world, but now there will be the nasty side of court battles, i believe there's a huge back out clause that Twitter put in the contract, so guessing Musk will be trying to use some of that sensitive information he was provided to try and reduce any potential payments.
i believe there’s a huge back out clause that Twitter put in the contract
There is a billion due if it is cancelled for semi sensible reasons but the really problematic bit for him is in theory they can force him to go ahead with the purchase if he doesnt have those semi-sensible reasons.
Is "I was drunk and stoned and it was late at night and I clicked on 'Buy Now' by mistake" a semi-sensible reason for cancelling?
If he gets one (a free pass for being stoned) for purchasing Twitter, we should all get one for eBay.
He’s on the hook for about 25 billion $
Watch doge coin get pumped next week. There is already a lawyer from the US who is holding Twitter shares talking about class action litigation.
This sounds about as plausible as anything.
If he gets one (a free pass for being stoned) for purchasing Twitter, we should all get one for eBay.
Conversely I'm quite looking forward to demanding $7,000,000,000 in compensation from the next eBay buyer to pull out of a purchase claiming that they "bid by mistake".
. As far as I know there is only one lawsuit against Tesla for the self driving allegedly injuring someone.
The dead have difficulty in attending court and giving evidence.
The fish rots from the head.
Car is sold twice since, and now has a new owner (my customer). It says 90, badged 90, has 90-type range
I'd be looking at/for whoever rebadged it
I’d be looking at/for whoever rebadged it
So first owner gets a free upgrade from a warranty mix up and keeps quiet about it. They or a subsequent owner rebadge the car and effectively scam the subsequent buyer who gets the mix up reversed when the company find out they're getting something that wasn't paid for. If I sell you fake tickets to a concert but you then get evicted by security when the people who paid for your seats turn up, do you blame the band for not letting you in?
The point is that telling customers that a software update is going to fix a problem but using it to remove functionality instead is pretty deceptive. They should have explained what was happening and given the owner a chance to sort it out. If the misconfigured battery reading was Tesla's fault, they should have just sucked it up for goodwill.
The point is that rebadging then selling on a car when you've benefited from a mistake is pretty deceptive. If the current owner had been aware that 'this is actually a 60 but has 90 range thanks to a Tesla cockup' then they may have acted differently.
Mate of mine works at Tesla quite often. Says Elon is really ****ing odd.
He quite likes working there though. The upshot of Elon thinking he can do everything better than everyone else is that he refuses to hire people with any experience. So he hires a bunch of extremely bright, extremely motivated 20-somethings, who don't know what they're doing, but learn quickly and are fun to be around. It does sound quite a laugh sometimes
So he hires a bunch of extremely bright, extremely motivated 20-somethings, who don’t know what they’re doing, but learn quickly and are fun to be around. It does sound quite a laugh sometimes
Problem there is that they don't have the experience or seniority to ask tough questions and point out when Musk is doing dumb shit. The Hyperloop was always bullshit, Musk was just making impossible promises, as usual. This suggest he knew that and was just using it to sabotage public transit plans in California. If Musk had hired engineers with experience on high-speed rail, they would have told him his dreams were just fantasies and then he would have had to sack them. Hiring kids straight out of school means it will take several years for them to see through the bullshit.
It’ll be interesting to see if he can wriggle out of it.
Dusting this off. It would seem the answer is no he cant.
Announced he is going ahead now just prior to the case kicking off properly. I assume he was told he was going to lose badly quite possibly risking having some stuff out in the public domain he really would prefer not to be.
There were some rather embarrassing/sad messages about the financing side of things which didnt shine a great light on all those involved already.
Spinning it as a new ground braking app called X???
Realized he would be hung out to dry in court and his financial dealing being looked into via the SEC in the US
Musk said public transit was “a pain in the ass”
Man who has had wealth his entire life in "Not understanding how everyone else lives" shocker. Christ, rich idiots are such a PITA
Spinning it as a new ground braking app called X???
Which apparently is going to do everything. Ho hum.
Going to be some upset bankers at Morgan Stanley and a few other banks who had agreed to provide 13 billion of financing for it. Since if they dont find someone to see it to then they have to carry the cost themselves and not much chance of finding many people interested at least without a steep discount.
I guess they realised they were screwed back at the start of the lawsuit but still had a glimmer of hope remaining.
Seems he's an apologist for Russian expansion:
The ****.
I've Never Met a Nice South African.
Anyone watched the Elon Musk Show on iPlayer? Worth watching? Is all singing his praises or actually more balanced?
My prediction on doge came true 10% rise before he needed cash for Twitter even though the banks look to have funded most of the deal.
I've not seen the been show I imagine he controls the output?
The Twitter hellscape seems to be turning things up to 11.
It's going to be amazing watching this absolute helmet do a Kanye and flush 44 billion down the drain.
I can not wait.
I'm going to miss twitter, could be a really good source of interesting opinions & expert knowledge
Monty Burns buying it marks it's end, I fear, really hope I'm wrong
But the Kanye thing perfectly summed it up
https://twitter.com/HeatherMoAndCo/status/1585809481602064384?t=ZvaIIj430WPgVo7tRrz4gA&s=19
Has he turned it into 4chan yet?
He has sacked the top level exc team. I bet trump is back by the weekend's cull of other staff.
Elon is a dangerous man
Someone said that the best thing Musk could do with Twitter was buy it and close it. Looks like he's just going to let it burn itself down instead.
It’s going to be amazing watching this absolute helmet do a Kanye and flush 44 billion down the drain.
Elon's going to soon discover the same thing the owners of Gab, Parler, Truth Social etc either knew from the start or soon found out, making any actual money from social media depends on having a huge user base with loads of 'normies' who actually buy stuff for your advertisers to market to.
Any corner of the internet that declares itself a 'Free Speech Fundamentalist' zone eventually ends up flooded with Nazis, Pedophiles and Scammers, basically the very worst people imaginable. As a result the 'normies' very sensibly decide they can't be bothered with all this, leave and take their advertising dollars with them.
Then the trolls, with no 'libs' to 'trigger' eventually get bored and go elsewhere as for the average sadist it's no fun when you have nobody to be horrible to.
It would all be very funny if the process wasn't going to involve so many people from minority groups being subjected to a torrent of horrific abuse, intimidation and threats.
I'm sure the former CEO/CFO are delighted he didn't try to keep them on. Over 100m in severance payments between them and no need to try to sit through the Russian botfest to come.
