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It’s widely acknowledged as the most toxic and problematic social network.
A lot depends on who you choose to follow and what "discussions" you care to get involved in. It can be informative and amusing.
Perhaps that means I saw the worst of it, but nothing I saw made me want to go there in my spare time.
I only see tweets/discussions from the 100 or so folk I follow in my timeline, there is no need to view anything you don’t want to see.
The user makes a choice between allowing the algorithm to decide what you see, much like stopping everyone in the street and asking them for an opinion and personally choosing what you see from those you exclusively follow.
I only see tweets/discussions from the 100 or so folk I follow in my timeline, there is no need to view anything you don’t want to see.
Same. I even follow a few political accounts but I never look past more than 2 or 3 replies. And I almost never tweet.
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Lots of people saying on twitter that Jared Kushner is lining up to take over. I’m not awake enough to work out how true that might be.
I think a lot of people joining the dots about who Musk watched the football with last night, as a guest of the Saudis (who allegedly stumped up a lot of the cash for him to buy twitter)..
https://twitter.com/ericswalwell/status/1604541953005477888
All that money and still getting told what to do.
Playing him like a cheap fiddle at a strippers bar.
So who do think was sucking up to who out of trump jnr or Elon
don't like the result change the rules!
I think a lot of people joining the dots about who Musk watched the football with last night, as a guest of the Saudis (who allegedly stumped up a lot of the cash for him to buy twitter)..
The presence of at least one pro-Putin Russian reporters there too leaves a very sour taste in the mouth...
don’t like the result change the rules!
Is what he's always assumed he can do... Thing is, he's underestimated the twitterspehere's distaste to being told that the rules have been changed by a guy who's been playing with their precious toy for less time than they have, whilst using it primarily as a means to short-sell his competitors and shill whichever cryptocurrency happened to be his flavour of the month, before it tanked (conveniently after he'd got out!)...
So who do think was sucking up to who out of trump jnr or Elon
Like a cat with a slice of buttered toast strapped to its back, one suspects they were hung there in suspended animation, in a perpetual 69 of mutual aggrandisement...
A lot depends on who you choose to follow and what “discussions” you care to get involved in
Agree, I just follow people I like and read what they post. I don't open up the comments and that is where the real shit is with all sorts of ****ers posting all sorts of crap. Maybe I am missing the point of social media by not reading the 'social', ordinary people comments but that is how I like it.
But the discourse in the comments drives the algorithm to prioritise posts that create that discourse into your feed, so even if you think you are avoiding it by not reading the bottom half of the internet, it still impacts what you see.
Agree, I just follow people I like and read what they post. I don’t open up the comments and that is where the real shit is with all sorts of **** posting all sorts of crap. Maybe I am missing the point of social media by not reading the ‘social’, ordinary people comments but that is how I like it.
There's a huge continuum between echo chamber at one end and 'the bottom half of the internet' at the other, which is where you/we should send at least some of our time though. If you get too far to either end I think discussion and understanding gets worse as a result.
But the discourse in the comments drives the algorithm to prioritise posts that create that discourse into your feed, so even if you think you are avoiding it by not reading the bottom half of the internet, it still impacts what you see.
If you sort your feed chronology then there is no algorithm derived prioritising.
Facebook is a different matter.
What is Adam Hills doing with a hair colour???
That deserved more love.
It’s widely acknowledged as the most toxic and problematic social network. We’d be better off without it IMO.
Widely acknowledged by whom, exactly? I don't recall, as a random example, Twitter ever being implicated in distributing an app which surreptitiously passed user data en masse to a third party in order to manipulate national election results.
Most social media is Garbage In, Garbage Out. Would you argue that print media is toxic after reading the Daily Express? If people are posting things you don't like, stop reading them. There will always be Unfollow / Unfriend / Ignore / Block buttons for a given account. For a little while I followed a film-maker I liked, turned out that his entire output was about smoking a fat one and shagging his wife; I hit Unfollow.
Follow-up comments to original posts have always been a cesspit, from Twitter to Facebook to YouTube to IFLScience to The Daily Mail to the My Little Pony fan club* so just don't scroll down. You see this occasionally on STW even, you could start a thread about say a TV show and there will always be someone wading in to go "I don't watch it, it's shit." Well... why are you even here reading this thread and taking time to post about it then? 🤷♂️ It's not a fault of the medium, it's that people are weird.
(* - never piss off a Bronie.)
Like a cat with a slice of buttered toast strapped to its back, one suspects they were hung there in suspended animation, in a perpetual 69 of mutual aggrandisement
👏👏
Amazing how many people think Musk himself is actully responsible for building the cars and rockets.
Well, he’s the public face of a car company that apparently makes all its profits selling CO2 credits to SUV manufacturers, and is apparently trying to bring back 1970s Detroit (or possibly Longbridge?) build quality.
I just don't get it, if I was that rich I'd be having a 10-way everyday, not acting like a 13 yo looking for attention from basement dwelling oddballs.
I know he’s incredibly rich, and can fill the sky with space junk visible to the human eye from Earth… but can we just ignore this utter waste of human flesh now? Just not mention him? I’m undecided about what to do with the twonks that defend him and buy his more earth bound junk… politely nodding and siding away from them might still be the safest approach, but I’d rather find ways to nudge them away from him, if possible.
I'm assuming the "epic thread" comment was referring to the absurdity of the thread. It's genuinely hard to tell with Musk sometimes though, and he must know how it might be interpreted.
I’d be having a 10-way everyday
Your lack of ambition disturbs me!
I’m assuming the “epic thread” comment was referring to the absurdity of the thread. It’s genuinely hard to tell with Musk sometimes though, and he must know how it might be interpreted.
Nah, he’s merely an utter **** of the highest standing and the sooner his world burns down the better.
The Forth Reich? Is that what we can expect when the expansionists in Fife get into power?
We watched Knives Out, The Glass Onion last night. There's a not too subtle dig at Mr Musk right at the end.
Is that what we can expect when the expansionists in Fife get into power?
Nobody expects the Fife Expansionists
TGO could have been a good film if they hadn't tried so hard on the social media billionaire angle.
As much of a ****womble that he is, this is still pretty impressive. I wonder who the previous record holders were.
https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1609195983501676544
Breaks world record for the largest loss of fortune
..And his plan to get all the cool right-wing kids to like him when he bought Twittter still didn't work. What a prat
I wonder who the previous record holders were
Masayoshi Son was the last. Bloke behind Softbank. Made one good investment into a Chinese company and then went around the world boosting the tech bubble to try and repeat.
I am sure his supporters are thinking "this is a really cunning 15d chess move. Just wait until the counter attack emerges".
It's just share price, reality is Tesla are pretty solid in terms of outlook, same with his SpaceX and other ventures, they'll go back up soon enough and it'll be another article on how amazing a turnaround it was.
Not so sure. People have been buying new Teslas over other electric vehicles because they were depreciating slower than their competitors… important when not buying outright. There was an “investment” mentality at play. Once/if deprecation increases to be the same as others (looks likely), at a time when competitors are offering better build quality, safety and all the other “normal” premium car characteristics, Tesla’s lead in their sector could disappear very fast.
Telsa just became the top luxury carmaker in the US I think. But it can't last, when so many other major companies are working on replicating the thing that made them unique but doing it better. I'm sure Telsa will persist but they will simply become another carmaker.
Tesla’s lead in their sector could disappear very fast.
TBH depends what Tesla sector, don't forget they have the Megabank side, cars aren't the only money spinner.
People have been buying new Teslas over other electric vehicles because they were depreciating slower than their competitors…
I follow a couple of auction sites- one in the USA and Teslas come up on it fairly regularly, they never (maybe once or twice) get anywhere near their asking price. Always questions about build quality and software updates.
But it can’t last, when so many other major companies are working on replicating the thing that made them unique but doing it better. I’m sure Telsa will persist but they will simply become another carmaker.
Yep, the first big dominant player in a new market rarely survives as anything other than 'another player', if at all. The competition learns from their mistakes, catches up, and overtakes.
Tesla still have one big advantage over other manufactureres, the Supercharger network. And the competition isn't learning.
I'm hardly an expert, but it seems obvious that Tesla will be caught and overtaken by the automotive giants in the long term, no?
It's not a market that tends to produce near-monopolies like the internet (Google, Amazon, eBay etc.), so being dominant now doesn't buttress you against future challengers.
I am sure his supporters are thinking
Don't be so sure.
Tesla still have one big advantage over other manufactureres, the Supercharger network.
True. But that's going to be an issue forced by governments soon, it's essential to the switch over from combustion engines. The future isn't brand specific infrastructure, it's charging points that everyone can use, everywhere.
We're about 10 years into viable electric cars being available to the public and Tesla is still the only manufacturer whose car you can be sure to charge without hassle on a trip across a continent. When is soon? It's currently an expensive shambles charging a car with multiple apps and unreliable charge points. It needs more than governments, it needs the EU to sort out the mess. I haven't seen anything tabled. They're financing unworkable inefficient projects but not infrastructure that works today for todays cars.
It's known what's needed:
https://www.acea.auto/publication/european-electric-vehicle-charging-infrastructure-masterplan/
It's just not happening.
When is soon?
France (that's where you are, yeah?) are looking at 7 million public charging points by 2025. On the road networks to/from other countries that's being pushed/subsidised by the EU. I'd be very surprised if they meet that target, but it gives an idea of what will be happening this decade, and government led (but yes, EU role key for your crossing Europe requirement, and arguably far too much inertia there like elsewhere).
It’s just share price, reality is Tesla are pretty solid in terms of outlook, same with his SpaceX and other ventures, they’ll go back up soon enough and it’ll be another article on how amazing a turnaround it was.
Yea, but his companies are tiny compared to their inflated share prices. The companies themselves might survive but I'm less convinced of that as time goes on.
Tesla still have one big advantage over other manufactureres, the Supercharger network. And the competition isn’t learning.
Fun fact, the number of public chargers in the UK went up 8% in a single quarter last year, that's not cherry picking, that's just the last number that's available.
Another fun fact, can you guess why the adresss for our local supercharger station is "Mill Lane", gives a clue as to why you'd probably not want to build there.
True. But that’s going to be an issue forced by governments soon, it’s essential to the switch over from combustion engines. The future isn’t brand specific infrastructure, it’s charging points that everyone can use, everywhere.
I think the bigger issue as per usual is governments will invest in literally anything other than viable public or active transit solutions.
Tesla still have one big advantage over other manufactureres, the Supercharger network. And the competition isn’t learning.
They've opened some sites to to other brands.
Its definitely a no brainer when your using wholly superchargers and the fact you just plug in and go is very nice.