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Space x, Tesla, Twitter should all be able to function without his Muskiness

I have read suggestions that his current fixation on twitter is a positive for the Spacex and tesla since he isnt interfering with them.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 10:06 am
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I’m still looking at Twitter. I’m seeing all the same stuff I always have. I’d not have seen Musk’s tweet if someone hadn’t posted it in this thread.

It's still damaging though. Other people are now surrounded by vaccination misinformation and consipiracy theories that may have previously been hidden and the influence of those ideas will grow.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 10:12 am
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There are still a lot of good things happening on twitter. Its still a positive & accurate news aggregator for many. It still functions as a market place for many small & independent business. Its still a community information board for many.

I get the guy at the top is a nob and I get that he is facilitating further nobs but there aren't many if any suitable alternatives that people can just jump to.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 12:20 pm
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I’m still looking at Twitter. I’m seeing all the same stuff I always have.

Just because you haven't changed your interaction on twitter doesn't mean others won't have. Elon is now twitter's no1 attraction, he gained more followers since buying twitter than any other user, became the #2 most followed (he may well be #1 now) and was tweeting at a rate of once every 15min.....

Personally I've not used the site since about 2014, but you can't escape what is being 'tweeted'. It's in the media and shared around all forms of social media.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 2:16 pm
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accurate news aggregator

That was very dry delivery of a joke.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 2:25 pm
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you can’t escape what is being ‘tweeted’. It’s in the media and shared around all forms of social media.

Like here? I guess I could avoid STW too.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 3:35 pm
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Does that tweet above remind anyone of zombie maggots....?


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 6:00 pm
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So apparently the twitter account that tracks Elon's private jet has been shadow banned - any know if any/all the other private jet tracking twitter accounts have been banned?


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 6:33 pm
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There are still a lot of good things happening on twitter.

Also probably lot's of good things not on twitter.

Its still a positive & accurate news aggregator for many.

Isn't that an oxymoron?

It still functions as a market place for many small & independent business. Its still a community information board for many.

It's an advertising platform that relies on user created content to generate traffic and clicks, it's not a hugely original business model...

I get the guy at the top is a nob and I get that he is facilitating further nobs but there aren’t many if any suitable alternatives that people can just jump to.

Really? You make it sound like an essential service without which no information could possibly reach you. Clearly not the case as you're posting on STW (and no doubt other niche corners of the interwebs)...

Just to put it in perspective Twitter apparently has 396.5 million users, that's just under 5% of the 8 billion people living on Earth currently. If you think you're getting comprehensive news/information with insightful comment and opinion from just 5% of the population (mostly the wealthiest 5%) guess again...

I accept twitter's influence goes beyond it's user base as they keep bloody pasting links everywhere else, and half of all journalism now seems to be based on quoting tweets, but it wouldn't be very hard to disentangle ourselves from twitter. People have been telling us all to delete FB since about 2016, I don't see why twitter deserves any more lenient treatment...


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 6:56 pm
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Anyone fancy trying neurolink then? Don’t worry the monkeys only chewed a finger* or two off in tests**.

It's probably got very little to do with medical advances and more to do with some people thinking they can live inside the internet and actually experience the sensations therein.

A bit like those extreme gothic types that like to believe they really are vampires.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 6:58 pm
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Could have just said "you're wrong" and been less of a dick about it but you kno' hating on something is so cool right now.


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 8:19 pm
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I’m tempted to just set up another account using a burner email address, just to troll Musk.

I’ve never had a Twitter account and I’m considering signing up just to give him shit. Maybe that’s his plan? Curse you Musk and your psychological games! Curse you!


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 8:20 pm
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I’ve never had a Twitter account and I’m considering signing up just to give him shit. Maybe that’s his plan?

he had only 96M followers a couple of weeks ago and now its up to 120M.  You might not be alone


 
Posted : 12/12/2022 10:19 pm
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This is good advice IMO.

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1602492434411307010


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 4:13 am
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he had only 96M followers a couple of weeks ago and now its up to 120M. You might not be alone

Its a bit like a house fire down the street - everyone is turning up to have a look and many are deciding to piss on the flames. Elon could end up with a metaphorical pile of smouldering ash covered in piss or they may well end up putting it out for him.


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 8:25 am
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Could have just said “you’re wrong” and been less of a dick about it but you kno’ hating on something is so cool right now.

I could have, but half the joy of social meeja isn't just telling people they're wrong, it's dissecting and illustrating the ways in which their wrong. 😉

As for "hating on" twitter/Elon? Yeah I wasn't a fan of either since before it was cool, I've not hidden that fact.

Those slowly coming to the realisations that the apps, personalities and narratives that have shaped their current world view are flawed are just going to have to get used to being challenged when they start try to apologize for the whole sorry shit show...


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 8:57 am
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Those slowly coming to the realisations that the apps, personalities and narratives that have shaped their current world view are flawed

Whereas those thinking that this has only become an issue since the advent of "social media" are just hopelessly naïve.


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 9:32 am
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Just to put it in perspective Twitter apparently has 396.5 million users, that’s just under 5% of the 8 billion people living on Earth currently. If you think you’re getting comprehensive news/information with insightful comment and opinion from just 5% of the population (mostly the wealthiest 5%) guess again…

What do you mean by comprehensive? All the major news sources are on Twitter, and all the local news sources that I want to read about, too. No doubt if I wanted live coverage of the latest scandals going on in some remote village in Ghana I'd be stuffed, but for the actual news that affects me I'd say yes: it's pretty comprehensive.


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 10:11 am
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Whereas those thinking that this has only become an issue since the advent of “social media” are just hopelessly naïve.

Indeed this is very much a repeating pattern throughout the ages.

Elon Musk is more like Henry ford than Tony Stark, Twitter now being his 'Dearborn Independent'.

What do you mean by comprehensive? All the major news sources are on Twitter, and all the local news sources that I want to read about, too. No doubt if I wanted live coverage of the latest scandals going on in some remote village in Ghana I’d be stuffed, but for the actual news that affects me I’d say yes: it’s pretty comprehensive.

I suppose I simply mean looking beyond a single media platform and its contributors, perhaps 'comprehensive' isn't the right word? Dunno.
If the rectangle in your pocket is your main window on the world and the major source by which news/information filters through is the twitter app, you're inherently limiting the breadth of sources and perspectives.

If you consider twitter a comprehensive source then fine, but as noted before it's really just an aggregator, which means everything posted can be found elsewhere and the algorithms and filters in place to dictate what you users see are now ultimately under Elon's control...

I still think twitter needs to be starved of users to force a moderation of its owner's behaviour, ultimately part of that is those people seeking out other sources of news and information, which really might not be such a terrible thing...


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 12:16 pm
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It's those that consider twitter 'town square of citizen journalism' that I have direct issue with - not those that get information from reputable news sources who have shared head lines on the platform.


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 12:53 pm
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half the joy of social meeja isn’t just telling people they’re wrong, it’s dissecting and illustrating the ways in which their wrong.

What you've done there is use the possessive 'their' (as in belonging to them, i.e, they had their arses handed to them by a grammar pedant) whereas you should have used they're, which is the contraction of they are. Which is odd, because you got it right the first time, in exactly the same form (i.e. they are wrong becoming they're wrong)


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 3:09 pm
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What you’ve done there is use the possessive ‘their’ (as in belonging to them, i.e, they had their arses handed to them by a grammar pedant) whereas you should have used they’re, which is the contraction of they are. Which is odd, because you got it right the first time, in exactly the same form (i.e. they are wrong becoming they’re wrong)

Or did I do it as a gift to a would be grammar pedant, Providing the opportunity to point out and explain my error, thereby helping to illustrating the point I was making?

(I did not).


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 8:47 pm
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17 pages when all that needed to be said is Elon Musk, bit of a ****. He reminds me of Steve Jobs who, in turn, makes me think of Bill Burr talking about Steve Jobs. I see Musk in the exact same way.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E3s-qZsjK8I


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 9:04 pm
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https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1602777375560695809


 
Posted : 13/12/2022 11:23 pm
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Bankruptcy does seem a serious possibility.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1603034520747376640


 
Posted : 14/12/2022 3:39 pm
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Musk is now banning journalists who have been critical of him.

Yup, he's definitely championed the old free speech there hasn't he...


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 7:45 am
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Well banning journalists ticks one of the Fascism boxes but then Fascism and free speech don't mix that well unless it is that sort of free speech.


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 7:59 am
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It’s because of location tracking breaches - apparently


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 8:56 am
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There "was" two narratives, the alternative was those journalists calling out Musky for posting data that could identity individuals, both narratives had "evidence" last night.

Not really believing anything at this point


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 9:23 am
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I like the way he ran a poll

It didn't go the way he wanted

So he ran another...

What an absolute tool


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 10:08 am
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Yeah like all the other fascist-adjacent right wing narcissists masquerading as free speech absolutists; it all goes fine until they encounter the "wrong" sort of free speech.

It's like watching a 4 year old having a tantrum.


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 10:15 am
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Yeah like all the other fascist-adjacent right wing narcissists masquerading as free speech absolutists

Free speech seems to mean the right to say what they want when they want without any consequences including people pointing out they are knobs.


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 10:27 am
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It’s because of location tracking breaches – apparently

The flight-tracking data is publicly available, anyone can access it. Elon changed the rules then banned the account that was tracking his private jet based on posts that preceded the rule change.

The journalists' bans were because they expressed support for the flight-tracking account and criticized Musk. But, when Nazis are involved, Musk is a free-speech absolutist.

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1603633860394131462


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 11:00 am
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Shadow banning Mastodon links too.
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1603691621828132864


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 11:11 am
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Making things difficult for Ukrainians, too.

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1603675700313325569


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 11:49 am
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I'd absolutely love it if journalists had the backbone to just quit Twitter en masse, but alas I think they're too hooked on it.


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 11:51 am
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The problem with switching from Twitter is network effects - everyone is on Twitter, so you have to be on Twitter. Mastodon is the obvious alternative, but there's little point in posting there because everyone's on Twitter. The one thing that Twitter is really useful for is getting news updates from legitimate sources, so legitimate journalists need to be on Twitter. They aren't going to quit because they can't.


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 12:02 pm
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Aaron Rupar's ban seems to be related to criticizing Musk, not for breaching location tracking rules.

https://twitter.com/CleoMatra/status/1603707082758590465


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 12:08 pm
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He seems to have attracted the attention of the EU again with his journalist banning, emotions really must be like a roller coaster ride round him at the moment:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63996061


 
Posted : 16/12/2022 12:44 pm
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That's a parody, surely?


 
Posted : 18/12/2022 1:13 pm
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As a graphic designer, all I can say is WOW! That really is quite something. Its difficult to know where to start with that?

I'd love to read the brief the designer got from Elon 🤣

It looks like something you'd see airbushed onto the cab of a big American truck in Idaho or somewhere


 
Posted : 18/12/2022 1:16 pm
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