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I don’t think it’s the GPs that are arranging the appointments / sending out the letters. But I could be wrong.

You are right


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 5:48 pm
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But it's based on their records, isn't it?


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 5:50 pm
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I called up last week, and sods law, letter through door next day.

I reckon Glasgow will come out of level 3 on Friday, noises seem to be edging towards this.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 6:57 pm
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I reckon Glasgow will come out of level 3 on Friday

To level 4?


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 6:58 pm
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The decision might be based on increase (or lack of) in ICU admissions apparently...


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 7:03 pm
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The decision might be based on increase (or lack of) in ICU admissions apparently…

Let's hope so.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 7:30 pm
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To level 4?

What Paul0 said. If hospital numbers ain't rapidly increasing, deaths aren't rising, and let's face it no one in the affected post codes is staying put, then it seems silly to keep the status quo.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 7:33 pm
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I got my first injection today.
Appointment arranged two weeks ago, received text message.
Letter appeared on Friday morning.
Edinburgh FWIW


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 8:00 pm
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Five people socially distanced coffee at work. 2 had been on Basically all day benders in the pub Saturday, third both her son's out for 8hours in a pub that was "jumping".

We're bloody doomed.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 11:21 pm
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@scotroutes - that data excludes the last three days and the rate of climb has slowed somewhat already. It's always dangerous including data from the weekend but it does look to me like they are starting to level off. E. Ren has levelled off which is consistent with the quite brave decision not to put them in Phase 3 last week. I have to say I thought they'd called that one wrong - but it seems maybe they knew what they were talking about! They'll have another 3-4 days days to make a decision with for Glasgow and I think they'll be keen to show there's a route back out and claim a few weeks of restrictions has an impact. My prediction would be that Glasgow doesn't come out this weekend - but has very strong suggestion of coming out the following weekend.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 12:08 am
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Sturgeons more or less confirming that they are hoping they can start disassociating case numbers and hospitalisations going forward.

Which is only sensible, either vaccines work or they don't and were are just about there to start disassociating I think.

i reckon caution will continue till the over 50s all have the 2nd dose. But after that. The disassociation will have quite obviously so.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 1:41 pm
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happen*


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 2:17 pm
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You classed as Glasgow Joe?.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 2:20 pm
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nah, SL, just over the border though, which is quite amusing. 😆


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 2:45 pm
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@scotroutes - do you think MV Loch Seaforth will be back on duty next week?
The knock-on effect on the other routes is making me a little nervous about the Mallaig-Lochboisdale route


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 3:13 pm
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No, canny see it, they discovered the main bearing failure took out the shaft too, get some bloody vib analysis done Calmac! They've said 31st may at earliest, I'd expect it to be 2 weeks, who knows though, fingers crossed.

Has had a massive effect on Arran route, down to one ferry at 25% capacity, they're way within the guidelines, could easily relax and let 50% on, but seem quite ersit about it.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 3:22 pm
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@nobeerinthefridge - thanks

Oh crap, we're going on Sat 6th


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 3:40 pm
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Just seen in BBC news there, they they're saying Monday now. Fingers crossed for you mate.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 4:18 pm
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Thanks... I'm sure they'll honour the booking and re-route us via Oban or Uig but it's just not knowing is a bit of a pain

🤞


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 9:43 am
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Aye, just hoping it's sorted too. Still two weeks away for us but knowing the state of the fleet, there's time for another one to break.


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 10:06 am
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That is the issue now - the state of many of the ferries and no slack in the system.

Why have they* not leased / rented this Pentalina ferry that much talk seems to be of?

*I am aware that there is some complex Calmac/CMAL/Scottish Government arrangement around 'they', owning both fleet, rights to services and I believe the harbours?


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 2:26 pm
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Is that the Pentaland ferries old one?


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 2:29 pm
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@swavis - yes


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 3:16 pm
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Ahh, they'll probably charge handsomely for that seeing as they don't get any subsidies. Mind you it's costing them mooring fees anyway so may be glad to get it shifted.


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 4:01 pm
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Why have they* not leased / rented this Pentalina ferry that much talk seems to be of?

I think there's a lead time issue - which with 2020 hindsight you'd say means they should have started commissioning the charter as soon as the problems began but if you believe you can fix your issues in a month why would you charter (at huge expense and logistical complications) a vessel that will take 4 weeks to be ready to put into service?

I wonder if the economics would justify the hauliers either chartering the Pentalina directly, or bringing in some sort of small coaster for freight only.


 
Posted : 27/05/2021 10:25 am
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Am I the only one who'll be watching this with interest over the next 3-5 days?

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:201024/zoom:14


 
Posted : 27/05/2021 10:41 am
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Hopefully it moves quicker than the Evergiven 🙂


 
Posted : 27/05/2021 11:13 am
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Glasgow will continue to be the only part of Scotland under level three restrictions for at least another week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57282902


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 2:26 pm
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I assume this movement means that MV Loch Seaforth is leaving Greenock for sea trials.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-4.735/centery:55.946/zoom:16


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 3:03 pm
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Anyone heading north on A9, be prepared for queues. Perth bypass at 2.30pm had three queues of traffic (two roundabouts and roadworks) all backing up quickly. English half term and bank holiday with staycation year...


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 4:06 pm
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Big queue northbound at Keir this afternoon, fortunately I was going the other way out of Dunblane. Given the forecast, there will be a few about this weekend, especially as it is a holiday for some.


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 7:22 pm
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Central belt stays in Level 2 as Glasgow rules ease

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57315436

The councils which will not be moving down a level are Edinburgh; Dundee; Stirling; Midlothian; East Dunbartonshire; Renfrewshire and East Renfrewshire; Clackmannanshire; North and South Lanarkshire; and North, South and East Ayrshire.

The rest of Scotland - including Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire; Perth and Perthshire; the Highlands; East and West Lothian; Dumfries and Galloway; and the Borders - will be moving to level one on 5 June.

With infections and R number rising, this does seem a little counter intuitive 🤔
Numbers in hospital and in ICU specifically also on the increase.


 
Posted : 01/06/2021 4:05 pm
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Numbers in hospital and in ICU specifically also on the increase.

They ebb and flow a wee bit, but haven't significally risen, and those that are in hospital are generally younger and have a better prognosis than the folk we had in hospital at the same stage of wave 2.

R number not the factor it was either tbh.

From a purely selfish point of view, level 2 is fine really, although I preferred it when the pubs were shut, less bawbags aboot. 🙂


 
Posted : 01/06/2021 4:24 pm
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They ebb and flow a wee bit, but haven’t significally risen, and those that are in hospital are generally younger and have a better prognosis than the folk we had in hospital at the same stage of wave 2.

I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced. At least the numbers in ICU look pretty flat though.

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Posted : 01/06/2021 5:06 pm
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^ I wonder how those ICU figures compare to seasonal flu ..


 
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They ebb and flow a wee bit, but haven’t significally risen, and those that are in hospital are generally younger and have a better prognosis than the folk we had in hospital at the same stage of wave 2.

I hope you’re right, but I’m not convinced. At least the numbers in ICU look pretty flat though.

Tbh as crass as this sounds. There's going to an acceptable level of hospitalisation.


 
Posted : 01/06/2021 8:13 pm
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Absolutely.


 
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Overlay of hospitalisations v cases is looking pretty decent eh?


 
Posted : 18/06/2021 8:18 am
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Let's hope it doesn't trigger changes up in level. Borders is showing cases on the rise schools are closing/isolating classes yet folk still breaking rule 1.
Party at weekend 4 +ve cases several lads not answering numbers their phones don't know in case it's t'n't as they're in London for the football.


 
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Aye but the link seems to be broken and we're only at 50% vaccination, so it seems better to come mibbe.


 
Posted : 18/06/2021 8:34 am
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Indeed.

Just disappointing that there is such a rise.

My bet for the coming two weeks - schools aren't going to mess around and risk isolation for the coming holidays. We're going to see whole yeargroups and schools just shut up shop, to ensure the staff get to thier much needed holiday healthy and not isolating. I also bet hundreds of parents withdraw kids for same reasoning.


 
Posted : 18/06/2021 8:34 am
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Overlay of hospitalisations v cases is looking pretty decent eh?

That looks good 🤞


 
Posted : 18/06/2021 8:55 am
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My bet for the coming two weeks – schools aren’t going to mess around and risk isolation for the coming holidays. We’re going to see whole yeargroups and schools just shut up shop, to ensure the staff get to thier much needed holiday healthy and not isolating. I also bet hundreds of parents withdraw kids for same reasoning.

I recon many people have given up on proper isolation anyway. We were fining people parking ticket values for gathering outside, but no sanctions against those with confirmed disease who didn’t stay at home. My guess is people will still go on holiday even if told to isolate but not actually sick.

The only problem with the divergence of cases and hospitalisation is if long covid gets the young, unvaccinated people but doesn’t put them in hospital...


 
Posted : 18/06/2021 9:08 am
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I wonder how many new cases will arise from the thousands of fans travelling to Wemberrlee for the game today?


 
Posted : 18/06/2021 1:26 pm
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Aye, it'll be awrite, they're fine as they're not wearing Rangers tops, it's the good old jolly tartan army doncha know! 😂

Tossers.

Are there any numbers on long covid yet btw? Apart from folks on here, I don't know anyone who seems to have suffered from it.

In terms of schools, loads of schools round here have had full years isolating, daughter regularly has single figures in her class. We were told last Monday she was to isolate as she was a close contact. From the previous Thursday. Aye, brilliant.

Even a positive PCR test wouldn't allow allow her back to school. Utter nonsense.


 
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