Aye, I was swithering about going to a gig last weekend but swerved it. Would have been about 300 people in a club. Ended up staying home and working on my ever-so-reliable campervan instead.
My work's all-staff lunchtime nibbles and wine Christmas thing next week is canned.
However, my team are due to go out to Dishoom afterwards, around 15 people going to a restaurant at 2pm. Really hoping it doesn't get booted as I really like the food!
My pal and I are going tomorrow night just in case.
Guess you just have to try and take each choice on its own merits and think about cumulative exposure chances.
my money is on us following Irelands latest round of restrictions. Reduced socializing in hospitality settings, back to table service etc, number of households per table. Reduced number of people in a household/indoor environment etc etc.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/covid19/living_with_covid19_plan.html
There won't be a circuit breaker/lockdown, they'll keep that nuclear option for Jan if it all goes tatties over the festive period
I foresee some pretty impressive family fall outs over covid this christmas. Middle aged curmudgeonly parents swerving the social possibilities of getting it but younger generation young adult kids need/want to socialise getting it and passing on to the family or just taking down one or two others.
"Yes, Mum - you can't come over to ours for Christmas now because LIAM couldn't stay at home AND HAD TO SNOG THAT TART so we ALL have to isolate and now Karen has got it too. Yes Mum, she's a nightmare when she's ill, I KNOW. ALL BECAUSE LIAM CAN'T KEEP IT IN HIS PANTS! Yes, this might be your last Christmas and you'll be all on your own now. Yes Mum, Christmas is ruined. MAYBE LIAM WILL THINK ABOUT THAT NEXT TIME HE PUTS HIS TONGUE DOWN A STRANGER'S THROAT"
Ah, Bread!
My brother is the only family member to have had it so far. Unless any were asymptomatic. Most likely caught the day he was at the football at Parkhead. But I suspect more likely in the crowded football pubs he was in before and after the game. Funnily enough he spent 6 hours in a car with his wife and daughter the day before symptoms appeared and they didn't catch it.
The new/old isolation rules have the potential to hammer our staff absence rate. But having a blether about covid fatigue yesterday and somebody suggested non compliance with that would be 50% at least.
The pupils "dance" is not the school one which was binned but one they've organised themselves. Shows what motivation does for them.
As for rates amongst teachers not being higher, I accept that but being told no spread in work is false. It would spread in any work place at the same rate.
Anyway I'm going on the night out but will lft everyday next week.
@yourguitarhero the nearest Dishoom I'm getting is curry cooked from their book. Which is my absolute favourite home cooked curry.
Curry out of the cookbook is on the menu for Christmas Day chez YGH!
Any other teachers seen the exemptions letter to HT's that has gone out from Ms Somerville?
"To implement such exemptions, Head Teachers must be able to demonstrate to yourselves
that:
their school is impacted by staff shortages as a direct result of self-isolation requirements
those staff shortages are in danger of putting essential functions and services at risk, and
all other options to address pressures on operations have been exhausted
They should also provide detail regarding:
the impact of no action
the scope of the requested exemption – location, number of staff etc
whether they are currently engaging with their local incident managemen team (IMT)
regarding outbreak management
You should satisfy yourselves that all the conditions above have been met in full and you
understand the nature of the request before approving any such exemption. They apply both
to teaching staff and vital school support staff. "
I wonder who makes the decision. the person isolating or the school?
Having been told that due to mitigations we can’t be infected in school but can as soon as we’re outside. So I face to face 100+ kids per day +14staff and can’t get it
This keeps coming up so frequently I guess there must be something in it..... but being honest were they really saying this? Or just that mitigation measures brought the risk down to acceptable level.... similar other face-to-face jobs.
There are some weird claims made about mitigation measures. My boss at work claimed that wearing masks meant that sharing a car with someone for 6 hours didn't count as a contact for track and trace. I find that hard to believe since as a specs wearer I see how much of my breathing goes round the mask, not through it.
I have spent the entire pandemic sharing cars every working day with random different people and haven't tested positive or had any missed work due to track and trace.
For schools there is far more contacts but the social distances are bigger and the shared spaces are bigger. Who knows how that affects the transmission risk?
For schools there is far more contacts but the social distances are bigger and the shared spaces are bigger. Who knows how that affects the transmission risk?
We have 80% of the roll moving around the building every 50 mins 7 times a day plus registration. One way system or not , that is a lot of closeness.
I could be wrong but it seemed like "school is really low risk" is basically just a polite fiction to deal with the fact that school is inherently a bit risky but also one of the most important things we do and the risk is tolerable. Avoids the kneejerk "school must be completely safe" reaction and also somewhat removes "why can't I go to the pub/spinning class/orgy, my kids are at school"
Northwind +1
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I could be wrong but it seemed like “school is really low risk” is basically just a polite fiction to deal with the fact that school is inherently a bit risky but also one of the most important things we do and the risk is tolerable.
Absolutely it is Risk vs Benefit time.
Quietly in the background there are benefits beyond the education gains. That is that school is a connection for very vulnerable children - getting fed, other adults to check in and support, getting out of a tough situation for a few hours. (etc).
This is not something any politician want's to stand up and say publicly, but I do think they need to start levelling with us about the Risk vs Benefit decision, rather than a 'no issue here' attitude.
Quietly in the background there are benefits beyond the education gains. That is that school is a connection for very vulnerable children – getting fed, other adults to check in and support, getting out of a tough situation for a few hours. (etc).
Absolutely,and these were the bairns we saw every day. People also underestimated just how much socialisation was done in school and what an impact the lockdown would have on it.
This is not something any politician want’s to stand up and say publicly, but I do think they need to start levelling with us about the Risk vs Benefit decision, rather than a ‘no issue here’ attitude.
This.
Schools are basically a substitute for the social services the Tories have destroyed.
Schools are basically a poor substitute for good parenting.
FTFY 🙂
put this in the Corona virus thread but probably better in here.
Old firm game on the 2nd in doubt as the police assigned to it have been moved to other duties.
also rumblings that schools will finish on friday rather than going in for a couple of days next week.
also rumblings that schools will finish on friday rather than going in for a couple of days next week.
I'd be surprised if Nicola allows that.
also rumblings that schools will finish on friday rather than going in for a couple of days next week.
the Govt. wont allow that. I have seen the letter.
What I do know is that mini_oab has had last prelim today, and so there is minimal benefit to spending the next few days watching DieHard (see yesterday afternoon...). He is not returning until prelims resume in January.
“why can’t I go to the pub/spinning class/orgy, my kids are at school”
Northwind + another 1
Is this the role call for STW orgy that Northwind speaks about?
Interested yet wary
Looks like the auld Covid has finally caught up with me! Nearly got to 2 years. 😆
Had 2 positive lat flows today, been for PCR, awaiting result, will be stunned if it's no positive.
Symptoms, pretty much just a cold just, sneezing a lot and runny/blocked nose and yesterday I was quite tired. Bit better today after testing positive tbh. Symptoms started after waking up on Tuesday.
Got my 3rd jag last Wednesday tae.
Got my booster this afternoon at a drop in , whilst in the queue I read the Charlatans gig I was going to on tuesday is cancelled but my best mate from school still wants to go ahead with his 50th on saturday . I'll politely tell him im out as It's not worth the risk heading into Embra a week before Christmas. Despite having the virus two days after the first lockdown Im actually really scared that If one of my kids gets it we have to isolate and leave the mother in law on her own over christmas.
Weirdly I was at The Bicep gig last tuesday which seemed like a 2000 capcity rave and I didn't feel anxious at all . What a difference a week makes.
Still at least I can get down the valley biking 🙁
I'm trying to stay optimistic, I got fully vaxed on Monday. My folks have been having a rough time of it recently and they'd appreciate a day with the grand kids. But then my other half would like to go and see her mum, who went into care 6 weeks ago. Hey ho.
stanfree
Free Memberwhilst in the queue I read the Charlatans gig I was going to on tuesday is cancelled
It feels a bit like before the first lockdown, this- government says "carry on, all is well, gigs are fine" and it falls to Deacon Blue and the Charlatans to take charge and go "no they're ****ing not"
... seems like the venues are making their own mind up . My son's band have had three gigs cancelled today.....nae money for chrimbo..😕😕😕
cheers, get the sense it might be tbh, finger crossed anyhow.
School due to close 23rd. We'll be in until then. School is the safest place for many of our pupils for lots of societal reasons. When I look at our kids I realise that it really is a broken society let down by many governments wearing all the coloured ribbons
It's always the high flyers and the pains (because home life is worse) on the last day. Extremes of a rural school.
Last week, because she has a heart of gold my other made some soup and took some round to the neighbours because they don't have a proper kitchen just now whilst they are having an extension built. Today they announced that they've all tested positive and were self isolating last week, when they let my other half in the house to deliver her soup. Her heart of gold melted tonight, she's raging.
Cheers Matt 🙂
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Tell ye what, If i'm indicative of the vaccine efficacy. The boosters will smash Omicron, actually completely brand new today.
3 days of sniffles, then sound. Touch wood.
It’s always the high flyers and the pains (because home life is worse) on the last day. Extremes of a rural school.
You've just explained to me why some of the weans you least expected (as a pupil) to see diligently turn up on the last day of term were there. Depressing thought.
@poly - depressing, isn't it. Motivation for school = a square meal, someone to show some care and time out of all sorts at home 🙁
And now they get sent home for a fortnight... 😢
Sturgeon said:
“We are not banning or restricting household mixing in law as before. We understand the negative impact this has on mental health and wellbeing.”
Sturgeon meant:
“We are not banning or restricting household mixing in law as before. We understand the negative impact this has on our poll ratings.”
