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WT actual F?
It's a fan heater for £270!!
... It's a fan heater ...
Didn't see a fan on the one I looked at 😉
Alien technology innit.
a rather expensive heat realignment and distribution system, produceing many pounds for multi millionaire dyson, and his foreign workforces.
"It's a fan heater for £270!!"
how much did your pushbike cost?
Scott Scale SLS
WT actual F?
It's a [s]fan heater[/s] bike for [s]£270[/s]nearly £9k!!
😉
Project, who made the pooter you're on at the moment? 😉
Project, who made the pooter you're on at the moment?
Aliens.
..and his foreign workforces.
What you got against foreigners? You're not one of those racists my mum warned me about, are you?
If you put your hand through the middle will it burn, that's what I would like to know?
I find the humming of a fan heater quite comforting too, . . . so at that price, and considering my misgivings, . . .i'm out i'm afraid.
BoardinBob - Member
"It's a fan heater for £270!!"
Think of the 'leccy you'll save...
The fan is in the base, It works on a venturi principal. Old technology well designed and marketed, like much of the Dyson products none of the principals are new. Everything he has designed is being used and made everyday in industry. The Apple of the household appliance world.
It works on a venturi principal.
incorrect
The Coand? Effect
It works on a venturi principal.
incorrect
The Coand? Effect
Incorrect.
Both Venturi and Coanda 😉
Only £135 per principle then - bargain 🙂
Personally I can't get upset about the prices of things I don't want to buy
Both Venturi and Coanda
explain pls
Everything he has designed is being used and made everyday in industry.
Right, and you wouldn't want a huge industrial vacuum system installed in your garden and piped around your house, would you? That's where Dyson comes in.
Something doesn't have to be an original principle to be a good idea, does it? Apparently, bikes were being made years before Orange came along and started trying to flog expensive ones...
explain pls
[url= http://www.me.rochester.edu/courses/ME241/G12Dyson.pdf ]http://www.me.rochester.edu/courses/ME241/G12Dyson.pdf[/url]
Well over 1000 patents and around £1,000,000 a week spent on R&D. Apparently nothing original, though 🙄
It does come with a remote though.
If you put your hand through the middle will it burn, that's what I would like to know?
Worse than that - if you put your hand through from the back, it pulls your fingernails off.
It does come with a remote though.
no but you can have it monogrammed (so long as your initials are A.M.)
If his vacuums and hand driers are anything to go by, I bet it's good.
Worse than that - if you put your hand through from the back, it pulls your fingernails off.
Forget the chocolate fountain, . . . this will go down a storm at any good kids party!
Father-in-law has a couple - it's fun to throw ping pong balls into the back.
and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope ?Incorrect.
Both Venturi and Coanda
and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope ?
😉
Worth every penny, miles cheaper than running central heating in my house. And really quick to heat a room. You will recoup,the purchase price fairly sharpish, mine paid for itself in about 9 months.
Dyson has done a wonderful PR job. The vacuum cleaners are rubbish, worse than a £100 Henry.
As for the comparison of Dyson with Apple above I couldn't agree less.
I don't know why. Both are style over substance.
Father-in-law has a couple - it's fun to throw ping pong balls into the back.
Genuine LOLs at that one! 🙂
Worth every penny, miles cheaper than running central heating in my house. And really quick to heat a room. You will recoup,the purchase price fairly sharpish, mine paid for itself in about 9 months.
Think how much quicker a decent jumper and some fluffy slippers would have paid for them selves. 😉
like much of the Dyson products none of the principals are new.
I demand that he reinvents physics and thermodynamics for his next product!
Using existing principals is just lame.
The vacuum cleaners are rubbish, worse than a £100 Henry.
This is not true. Henrys are great, but really pretty basic compared to a Dyson.
How much cheaper are they to run then?
Like zippykona and am interested on running costs. Comparison to an electric fire or gch.
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Must be cheaper than £270, surely.....
DrP
justatheory - Member
If his vacuums and hand driers are anything to go by, I bet it's good.
You do realise that JD has thousands of [s]minions[/s] engineers designing new stuff for him.
Dyson PR is very good at using him as a figure head.
The Dyson Hot may project the air into the room better but in principle it is no different to any other fan heater so I cant see how it would be more efficient, especially compared to CH.
The USP of Dyson air multiplier fans are the looks and that they are easy to clear. For cooling fans that makes a great deal of sense in a hot country where cooling fans are used all day so a nice looking one is important as it is a always on show. Can't see the point for an occasional use heater.
You do realise that JD has thousands of minions engineers designing new stuff for him.
Not sure of your point. I don't think Mr Branson dons a cap and gets into the cab of his Virgin trains, do you?
Must be cheaper than £270, surely.....
you'd hope - the smallest gas space heater I've had cost over 150 spots. Used 9-5 it would get through£80 - £100 worth of bottled gas a week. A big one can empty a 45kg/£75 bottle in less than a day. The bottles cost money to hire too so they cost you money even if everything is switched off. Only used mine on and off over a 2 year period but it packed up having only managed to empty less than four 45kg bottles. I took it apart to salvage some fittings to make a Rubens Tube and they are made of garbage. I have to say if you use those gas heaters as a benchmark the Dyson suddenly looks like astounding good value
That told me 😳
Plus, the tendency for my lad to sit close to our current heater would probably end up with his face melting in a ball of flames....
DrP
Not sure of your point. I don't think Mr Branson dons a cap and gets into the cab of his Virgin trains, do you?
I don't think anyone expects that Branson does anything at the coal face with Virgin but many people do think that James Dyson invents everything that comes from Dyson.
He's pretty hands on. He actually quit as head of the company to be more involved with the development. Of course he doesn't come up with all the new ideas but he will have some involvement. He is good for their marketing, though, much like Jobs at Apple.many people do think that James Dyson invents everything that comes from Dyson.
[b]5127 Failed Prototypes[/b].
[b]Engineering talent[/b].
These are a couple of Dyson's favourite tag lines.
If he had a basic engineering background instead of his background in Art and Interior design, he would've designed his vacuum using CAD, Matlab, FEA and CFD. There would've been a couple of prototypes, and they would've worked.
His thirst for Engineering talent is great until you apply for a job with him; they ask for far more product designers than engineers. Your complex computer model you created in your final year of Mech. Eng at a top uni is worthless, unless you can show them something you made out of cardboard.
It's an impellor with a heating element, not a Trent 1000.
His thirst for Engineering talent is great until you apply for a job with him;
His thirst for hoovers is great you apply for a job for him as a cleaner, turns out he's never done a days janitorial work in his life. 🙂
His thirst for hoovers is great you apply for a job for him as a cleaner, turns out he's never done a days janitorial work in his life.
Not really my point - to clarify, his company makes a song and dance about needing engineering talent, but really they're asking for product designers.
It's an impellor with a heating element, not a Trent 1000.
Like.
Not against what Dyson has done, am impressed with the marketing, design (some of it) and the reduced size of the products so that they are available for domestic consumption. Original thought to existing technology is good. like many products, the development costs are not in the idea but in making it possible to manufacture. Often the cheaper you want the product to be to manufacture the more money required up front.
However just because he has some patents does not mean that cyclones, air knives and venturi's are new and he thought of them.
If he had a basic engineering background instead of his background in Art and Interior design, he would've designed his vacuum using CAD, Matlab, FEA and CFD. There would've been a couple of prototypes, and they would've worked.
A couple of friends of mine worked for him in the early days. Both had engineering degrees from a top uni. And also product design degrees. I saw the work they did - lots of cardboard mock-ups AND lots of fancy CAD, Matlab, FEA and CFD. The prototypes worked.
You may not like their stuff but at least they are different and trying to innovate. If it keeps some clever jobs in Blighty (I know Mfg has moved) all to the good.