[Closed] Dredd- rewatching. On LOUD

Rogue trooper would be awesome (loved it).Not sure about Statham though.I thought Slaine was being made (or at least in pre production).

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Directed by Tim Burton

This needs to happen.

Karl Urban, aka Judge Dredd himself, has been the main cheerleader for the idea of a follow-up. This week, at Chicago Comic-Con, he revealed that it could become a reality, and that it might take the form of a prequel, based on the 2006 Origins storyline by Dredd’s original creators John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra. “There is a definite possibility [of a sequel],” Urban teased. “But, it is more likely that we will do the origins story with Dredd trekking through the Cursed Earth to find the first Chief Judge Fargo.”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/sep/12/week-in-geek-judge-dredd-sequel-should-adapt-origins

grey - Member
^^that'll work, I loved Rogue Trooper

I often think about Rogue Trooper - it was a close run whether that or Dredd were my favourite in 2000AD - and how so much of the 'futuristic' technology is now actually in use. Okay, so rifles don't actually talk, but we have smart weaponry and HUD helmets and stuff that back in the 80's was fantasy.

Have yet to see Dredd, as I missed it's brief stint at our local cinema, so this is a timely reminder for me.

I rewatched it the other night. I still think it could have been much better in that it could have made the whole MC1 thing of more relevance but with lower expectation second time round, I did enjoy it a good bit more. It's just not really a Dredd film IMO - just a half decent action movie.

I rewatched it the other night. I still think it could have been much better in that it could have made the whole MC1 thing of more relevance but with lower expectation second time round, I did enjoy it a good bit more. It's just not really a Dredd film IMO - just a half decent action movie.

I half agree with you - the MC1 bit was really poor, there was a definite lack of budget to do that bit right. I do think it was a Dredd movie, though - the character was pretty close to what I think of as "Dredd".

t's just not really a Dredd film IMO - just a half decent action movie.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/sep/12/week-in-geek-judge-dredd-sequel-should-adapt-origins

fingers crossed

Yes, Dredd was Dredd but given the whole Rowdy Yates thing, he's hardly a unique character is he? Dredd was good because of the world around him, not Dredd himself. That's the part lacking in the film, hence my view of it.

From Hora's link

Adapting the Origins storyline in some way would make a huge amount of sense. If there is one fault with Travis and Garland’s film, it is the lack of back-story about the world Dredd inhabits. That and a failure to include some of the quirkier examples of future weirdness that regularly find their way into the pages of the comic book. Screenwriter Garland clearly felt that diving too far into the ultra-crazy world of Mega-City One would confuse all but 2000AD aficionados, and so wrote a straight-to-the-point futuristic crime thriller in the hope of fleshing out the story in later instalments.

Which kind of makes my point - it wasn't really a Dredd film (or at least not a MC1 film), it was just a film intended to get people interested but it wasn't really unique or good enough as an action film in itself to do that. IMO of course or I'll be spending a few nights in the cubes.

I rewatched it the other night. I still think it could have been much better in that it could have made the whole MC1 thing of more relevance but with lower expectation second time round, I did enjoy it a good bit more. It's just not really a Dredd film IMO - just a half decent action movie.

People keep mentioning The Raid, but I thought that had some well dodgy/cheesy bits in...

The Stallone version wasn't a great film (played too much for laughs - the Urban gritty version suits it much better IMO) but they did a much better job of actually making it about MC1. Just need to bring the two together.

Speaking of Karl Urban, I was watching Chronicles of Riddick last night, I'd forgotten he was in it. Naff film but watchable nevertheless. Thandie Newton though... Pinnochio was less wooden.

He'll always be Eomer to me...

I like how much of a fanboi Urban is. It's not like "maybe we'll do an origin story", it's "We should do Origins". Maybe unsaid is "and if I do another kick ass Dredd, maybe everyone will forget how awful I was in Star Trek"

nemesis - Member

they did a much better job of actually making it about MC1.

Yep, totally agree with that, some of the individual scenes are still a comic lover's wet dream. Not just the look but a lot of the tone. Shame you couldn't set Urban's Dredd in Stallone's MC1.

The Stallone film- Utter shite, but Hammerstein and the Angel Gang were awesome.
The Urban film - pretty good, but when Dredd says THE WORDS - +10 for delivery there

Thandie Newton though... Pinnochio was less wooden

but which one is better to look at?

TBH - if they made another Dredd film and it was half-arsed I'd still be happy. My childhood imagination was filled with 2000ad's creations and ideas. Marvel etc etc- Spiderman, batman etc have all been wrung to death ffs. Sick of those films. How many more variants on the exact same theme can they do on a new film yet people still go and see?

2000ad have such great material which will never be tapped in comparison.

So Dredd- I salute you! 😀

Nemesis (and Torquemada if you insist) FTW 🙂

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Dunno if it's been mentioned already, but do you guys remember a film (late 80's maybe early 90's) called Hardware?

It was based on a 2000AD, 'Tharg's Future Shocks' story about an artist bringing a deactivated ABC warrior home to work on it as a sculpture. It didn't end well for her in the comic, can't recall much about the film other than Lemmy from Motorhead having a cameo!

B. 😀

Sounds interesting Beagleboy
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hardware/

Trailer voiceover had me laughing.

The Stallone film had Hammerstein (albeit minus hammer hand) and Mean Angel, it wasn't all bad. (EDIT just noticed someone already said that) Really looking forward to seeing the latest version. Would love to see a film version of Judgement on Gotham

It's ok, I would rather re watch The Raid though. Way better action scenes and soundtrack. The girl in Dredd is obscenely hot though.

Beagleboy - Member
Dunno if it's been mentioned already, but do you guys remember a film (late 80's maybe early 90's) called Hardware?

Was there a Ministry tune in the soundtrack?

Edit: Yes:

Didn't Urban say recently he wanted Judge Death?

The soundtrack is bangon.

Just watched it again. Has it made more in DVD sales than the cinema?
A judge death story would be great, ABC warrior anime better.

Agree Death would be good as would the Cursed Earth or the Apocalypse War

Seen this?

I just read through this and my first thought was 'Apocalypse War', not sure how well it would work though. My vote would be for a Death movie as it could use already introduced characters (moar Olivia Thirlby plz)and possibly arc out on it's own (Boyhood of a Superfiend would be a great origins movie). Chopper would be a bit tenuous but you did see a tag in Dredd.

Does anyone else have the Radio 1 mini series CD's? Got them both as a kid and loved them, what started me on 2000ad. Seem like hens teeth to find now, finally have something considered a classic AND in great shape!

ABC Warriors would be my next preferred option though it would need to get the balance right between brutally horrific (Blackblood, Mek-Quake) and utterly ludicrous (Deadlock, Pineapples). If it did though it would be utter gold.

ABC warriors would be great if done well, as in gritty and brutal.

I collected 2000ad for a year or 2 early 90's but got rid of them when moving house. I kept collecting for a 20 or so episode story which I thought was called judgement day about all dead coming bbc ask to life under control of some arch villain who clearly Dredd had to destroy but not before being banished to the bad land himself... That maybe sounds like the Stallone version, but it was a wee bit more epic than that (at least as an early teen it was)

The later Dredd film really shows that you can do (fairly) faithful film adaptation of a comic and also why you should't do that. 🙂
Fans are commenting about the lacking details and not initiated are wondering about missing explanations.

Still I hope that filmmakers can makefilms which do not explain everything for average viewers.

jimmy - Member

I kept collecting for a 20 or so episode story which I thought was called judgement day about all dead coming bbc ask to life under control of some arch villain who clearly Dredd had to destroy but not before being banished to the bad land himself...

Sounds half like judgement day (dead coming to life) and half like Necropolis (which started with Dredd in the cursed earth after Dead Man)

Happened to watch this again on Friday evening - what a blooming excellent film. It's in between what I'd want and what others would understand. But as others pointed out, it feels like a short prog series, so good IMO.

Watched it yesterday, not bad really. Miles better than the Stallone atrocity, with his horrible little side kick.
Liked the Chopper graffiti in one shot. Also like Lena Headey.

Hmm read 2000ad from issue 1 stopped in the 90's then started again in the 2000's and have reread from issue 1 🙂

The Cursed Earth would make a good movie...

I did also like the dan dare with the Flying Fortress ..

What is amazing is the way the comic seems to have grown up with the reader TBH...

I liked the Raid too.... Very energetic.

Interestingly (or not) Mrs STR's ex is a 2000AD artist. Handsome, rich, talented, but hey - he didn't get the girl 😉

Thought Dredd was a decent film btw

As there are a lot of Dredd geeks in this thread, what graphic novel or collection should I get my 12yo as a present?

My memories are the stuff around Mean Machine Angel, Ugly, Death and just day-day Dredd stories.
I really liked Future Shocks too.

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Argh - reading Amazon reviews and I've suddenly got 4 books at £33 in my Alibris basket!
Complete Case Files V2, V4 and V5 and Origins.

Am I being daft?

Rewatching. It reminds me of laser quest (the set) - remember that??

Yes I watched it on 4 the other night. Real shame it didn't do big numbers at the box office. So much potential in the Dredd universe for films.

Mrshora watched it on 4. She said its polar opposites of the 1st one that she hated (why she avoided the 2nd). If she had knoen it was Garlands (her words) she'd have watched it at the cinema. As it was she watched it all alone and enjoyed it by chance.

Watched it the other night. Much better than I expected. Loved the slo-mos.
No sequel yet?

Hi ex!

A real rollercoaster of a film, love it.