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I cannot see what sexuality ever had to do with Dr Who.. I may have needed an update. But **** me that is baby and bathwater stuff!
The problem i have with Torchwood is that the Captain Jack character is overtly homosexual without it adding anything to the actual script.
Yeah, and that Welsh bird is overtly heterosexual without it adding anything to the plot! That's just some hetero script editor shoving her sexuality down out throats! Bloody straights.
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The problem i have with Torchwood is that the Captain Jack character is overtly homosexual without it adding anything to the actual script.
It's not the first time the main character in a sci-fi/fantasy show has had romantic attachments - Kirk with his numerous alien ladies, Buffy with Angel, Riley and Spike, etc - why should it be any different for a show where the main character is bi-sexual?
I thought it was an integral part of Captain Jack's character - that he's a massive flirt, has a roving eye, and gets around a bit. It's a bit like criticising James Bond's womanising as not adding anything to the script. Why's he nobbing that woman when he should be making things explode and using cool gadgets?!
Captain Jack is overtly BIsexual actually...
He's omnisexual.
Personally I think we have progressed well as no one is arguing that a gay person could not play an action hero /traditional hard man [pun intended] role as they are too camp / effeminite.
[dick emery voice]Kimbers you are a flirt but I like you [/dick emery voice] 😉
I just don't think his sexuality adds anything to the script - or anyone else for that matter. As part of an unfolding storyline possibly but it is so overt as to actually impede the plot delivery and that i find annoying.
QAF was an entertaining series where the characters sexual lives were intrinsic to the plot, i don't really think it is in Torchwood.
Either that or i find John Barrowman to be one of the most irritatingly smug and up-his-own-arris 'actors' currently around.
Fair play if you think it adds to the overall story, i think it detracts from something that is already weak on plotlines.
I just don't think his sexuality adds anything to the script
There are lots of shows where the sexuality of the characters don't add anything to the plot. They just happen to be heterosexual characters, so it's not commented upon.
In fact, in Torchwood, wasn't it integral to the plot that Ianto fancied Jack, and that Gwen (is that her name? the Welsh lass) fancied Jack, and there needed to be the possibility that it would lead to something, so him banging anything with a pulse was essential to the plot.
Torchwood has a script?
Wasn't there some girl-on-girl in Torchwood as well? I have a vague recollection of the Japanese lass getting all sweaty with another girl, but it may just have been my fevered imagination. 😯
Chiana in Farscape was the hottie with grey skin and hair and a lovely bum. The plant girl was the bald one, she used to photosynthesis in a very sexy manner, tho' and pollinating her was just, well...
Perhaps Torchwood was just trying oh-so hard to be a little bit controversial and have a point of difference over Dr Who as it was broadcast later to appeal to a more *mature* audience 'ohh look, two girls snogging - s****'.
And that would make it really lazy script-writing.
Captain Jacks Gay?
Get away, he never is. You'll be telling me that lovely George Michael likes the cock next.
Captain Jack is from the 40,s when Homosexuality was illegal and people went to prison for being a practising homo,now 70 years latter,im sure he should be quite qualified.
Now those Cybermen,all shinny suits and helmets,and no cyberwomen.
and no cyberwomen.
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