[Closed] Doping in other sports

Nice try glupton 😉

We talked about this at length during one of our long expedition races. Notwithstanding the fact there is no money at all in adventure racing we hit upon the theory that narcolepsy drugs would be useful to help us keep going 24hrs a day without sleeping. We're not officially bound by WADA rules and I have never heard of any testing whatsoever but we'd definitely all test very positive for beer. And coffee.
I'd be surprised to hear that any top level athlete in a sport that pays proper money doesn't test the limits af assistance.

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Have a look at the above link, I still believe that Christing Ohuruogu missed tests because of what is stated in the report above

Clubber - he is one of the reasons I no longer row.

I can't really take someone who's clearly a troll seriously can I?

Rowers don't really hold records except for on the rowing machines so that even sounds wrong. And you've never mentioned that you rowed in any of the previous rowing threads on here.

my understanding is that doping comes from 2 directions

performance, make you go faster etc
injury recovery, get you back competing asap which may lead to performance doping to get back to the level etc

I would suggest that without a sport having a proper testing regime in and out of competition with a enforced whereabouts system cannot be declared as "clean". Golf, football, rugby, tennis etc are deluding themselves/ deliberately not tackling the issue

I would also suggest that testing should be introduced/ targetted for teenagers competing at a decent level as sports such as football/tennis where kids develop quickly and the "pushy parent" is about.

I to read the Dwain Cambers statement and the statements in the public domian of the investigation into an athlete and came to the same conclusion. Winning with dopers/ athletes who miss testing destroys a sport from the inside, no amount of Gold medals are worth it. It's a shame that the athlete can afford to pay for lawyers more than the governing body

Graham Noyce would regularly ride pi55ed in 70's and early 80's not sure if that counts as doping.

No money in rowing?

Tell that to Cracknell, Pinsent, Redgrave.

Not saying they ever used but if you were an up and coming rower the rewards are there if you get gold at the Olympics.

While playing amateur rugby league the ephedrine and T5's have been flying around like sweets in some dressing rooms.

I also have a friend at a pro club that is given 7 unbranded supplement's to take each week, every now and again they just get the 1 blue pill and would you know it the drug testers turn up a week later...

Amphetamines and brandy! Well, it worked for Tom Simpson - oh, come to think of it, it didnt really, did it?

Not saying they ever used but if you were an up and coming rower the rewards are there if you get gold at the Olympics.

Who?

Maybe I should say multiple gold.
You need a good marketing manager too ;0)

Clubber - there are records there for set distances in the various events. Never mentioned that I rowed because I became very disillusioned with the sport. 6:30ish for the 2km on the concept 2 at my last attempt, best of around 6:15 a few years back.

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Tragic loss for his family and team mates but I have compare this too cycling a few years back when a number of young riders died as a result of EPO abuse.

Clubber - there are records there for set distances in the various events

no there aren't. 2k is the only distance that any records (at least ones that anyone cares about) are held for since that's the international standard and other times on rivers are so affected by conditions, stream and so on. But obviously you'd know that if you weren't just trolling. It's easy to throw accusations when hiding behind a troll.

Maybe I should say multiple gold.

Andy Holmes?

Anyway, the point is that rowing is far from being a route to riches - 3 people have made it by marketing themselves outside rowing (though I wouldn't be sure they're all tremendously wealthy - probably not even as well off as a low end premiership footballer).

I work in motorsport - MotoGP - and the riders are subjected to random drug testing on an infrequent basis. I seem to remember that our riders, none of whom won a race, were tested twice during the season on average, immediately after a race.

It can be a bit boring sitting with a rider after a race in places like Mugello and Qatar (before it was a night race) watching then consume litres of water as they try desparately to fill the bottle!

To be honest, there wouldn't be much point in performance enhancing drugs in MotoGP, as it's not an endurance sport and the required level of fitness is fairly easy to achieve.

Whether banned substances are used for injury recovery in MotoGP, I don't really know. All I do know is that having had three very injury prone riders, none of them were given any suspicious substances to aid their recovery.

I've also never heard of stem cells being used to aid recovery of broken bones in MotoGP.