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GrahamS - so you start with a public safety announcement and end up with first world problem moans. A-typical. 🙂
hey guys, they can burn your house down to.
Amazing how peoples experiences of the same thing can differ. I've always run dishwashers and never rinsed and have never had a problem with things coming up perfectly clean every time. I never use rinse aid or salt, but always have used decent tabs (Finish). Just scrape off the leftover food and pop in the dishwasher, no rinsing. Comes up cleaner than hand washing every time - especially glass. They are far more efficient than hand washing too.
This stuff is scaremongering. Any device in your house can have a fault - what about your fridge? TV? anything that is plugged in - are you going to shut off your electricity every time you go to bed or leave the house? The chances are very slim.
friend did that to his dishwasher.
plugged in (as they all are) but not even running!
fortunately, he was still up at 2am and smelled the burning plastic.
got 6 weeks in a travelodge and free redecoration of the entire downstairs.
I'd suggest your experiences with dishwashers are... ummm... [i]atypical[/i] Hora. 😀
We spent decades washing by hand. We got a slimline dishwasher about four years ago and no way we'd go back!
FWIW we don't rinse things before putting them in the dishwasher (why would you do that?).
We do still hand wash [i]some[/i] things: plastic kids crockery, crystal glasses and big pans
GrahamS - so you start with a public safety announcement and end up with first world problem moans. A-typical.
<Greekwegian voice>
This. IS. SINGLE. TRACK.
😉I'd suggest your experiences with [s]dishwashers[/s] most things are... ummm... atypical Hora.
This stuff is scaremongering. Any device in your house can have a fault - what about your fridge? TV?
I guess some appliances are more risky than others due to the power they use. A telly on standby is pulling less than 1 watt. A running dishwasher has to operate pumps and a big heating element = lots of watts.
We wash as soon as we've eaten. I couldnt imagine not. Conditioning I guess.
Wow what a waste of water and power - you should get a dishwasher. 😉
id have 2 dishwashers if i could and just alternate them, never any need to unpack
We wash as soon as we've eaten. I couldnt imagine not.
I do. My wife on the other hand will leave stuff for days, maybe even years. I do a lot of washing up in our house.
Our DW broke down about 2.5 years ago and we haven't got round to replacing it as other stuff keeps getting in the way.
I HATE washing up!!!!! wanders off to currys website.........
Oh and dishwashers are like extra cupboard space you just alternate between clean and dirty!!
But do you hate it more than spending £200 on bike bits?
You make a very good point!!
We wash as soon as we've eaten. I couldnt imagine not. Conditioning I guess.
Before or after the brandy and cigars?
[i]I HATE washing up!!!!! [/i]
This!
Packing and unpacking a dishwasher is so much easier and less tedious.
I got a (slimline) Bosch for £80 on eBay and I only have washing up for one person 🙂
I will not heed Graham's overnight wash warning, I'm just not paranoid enough.
Our dishwasher seems to get things clean. Cleaner than by hand. And I can't wash things by hand at 70 degrees, so I'd bet that the robot is more hygienic, than 35 degree fairy liquid and a mucky tea towel.
re: the dishwasher energy thing, these widgets often have a button labelled "half load". Amazingly, it uses half the water and about half the electric.
In the interests of one-upmanship we managed to set fire to the local sports centre with a dishwasher. The mountaineering club I belong to has a half share in a climbing wall and we use a dishwasher to periodically degrease the holds. As it happens, one time (in band camp) this lead to the dishwasher spontaneously combusting and a six figure insurance claim for the consequential smoke damage.
We only run the new washer when someone's around now :-/
Hora - don't leave the keys in the door, it just makes it easy for anyone breaking in to unload in the middle of the night because they can open the door without breaking it (after coming in through a back window)
Hora - don't leave the keys in the door, it just makes it easy for anyone breaking in to unload in the middle of the night because they can open the door without breaking it (after coming in through a back window)
haven't heard this one before. But what are they gonna nick if the door is openable? Surely the main targets in a house these days would be the tablet/laptop, the jewellery, the car keys. All easily stashed in a coat for exit via the window...
also on the dishwasher/laziness argument - who here both does the majority of the washing up in their house (be honest) AND thinks dishwashers are pointless indulgences?
who here both does the majority of the washing up in their house (be honest) AND thinks dishwashers are pointless indulgences?
Raises hand.
When I have a kitchen big enough, I will have two dishwashers. Fill one up. Use crockery, cutlery, etc as required. When finished, simply load into 2nd dishwasher until full. Repeat from 2nd to 1st. No cutlery drawer or crockery cupboard needed. 😀
[i]Same goes for any appliance, really. [/i]
Eh, you only put on the dishwasher, washing machine, tumble, fridge and freezer when you are in and able to watch it? Doubt it.
And on the subject of dishwashers, had them pretty much all my life as my folks got one when I was about 7 y/o (early 70's, first kid in the school with one), and then when I got my first place bought one and in every house since.
I've never understood dishwashers. By the time you've scraped and rinsed the stuff, loaded it, unloaded it, you could have washed it in the sink three times over.
There's your problem. I've never rinsed anything before chucking it in the dishwasher.
[i]Why do people have dishwashers? I thought it was a 90's thing! It takes minutes by hand to wash the contents of a machine. Plus you dont have to build up a load. First world laziness. [/i]
It doesn't take 'minutes' to wash pots, pans, plates, cutlery, glasses, etc after a meal. A couple of plates after breakfast, yep, after an evening meal a fair bit longer.
Time is far too precious to be standing at a sink washing up, I'd rather spend the time doing other stuff. That's for losers.
You have to build up a load - yep and how long do you think that takes?
who here both does the majority of the washing up in their house (be honest) AND thinks dishwashers are pointless indulgences?
Me.
I've already done two lots of washing up before I left for work.
Load
Unload
Time is precious? Washing two pans, four plates and cutlery takes how long compared to load/unload? Not much longer..
who here both does the majority of the washing up in their house (be honest) AND thinks dishwashers are pointless indulgences?
Me, I do all the cooking too. My wife swears it's a pain to do it and so when we get our new kitchen it will have a dishwasher. I'd happily do without, alas, this is not my decision to make.
We did get the big double oven and 5 burner hob though!
[i]how long compared to load/unload? [/i]
What do you do with the items after you've washed them by hand?
who here both does the majority of the washing up in their house (be honest) AND thinks dishwashers are pointless indulgences?
Until a year or two ago this was exactly me.
New house came with a dishwasher though and it has won me over with its seductive ways, especially now we have two kids.
What do you do with the items after you've washed them by hand?
Put them in a rack on the drainer to dry?
Seriously? Get a grip on yourselves. A PSA about fire risk and people are bitching about whether to wash by hand or not.
FFS.
fair enough. in our house, it's the person who doesn't do so much washing up (my dear wife) who thinks dishwashers are pointless 😉
In 2013-14, there were 258 dwelling fire fatalities
Smokers’ materials (e.g. cigarettes, cigars or pipe tobacco)
caused the largest share of deaths in accidental dwelling
fires (37%), while cooking appliances are the source of ignition
in more than half of accidental fires in dwellings.
Road deaths in 2013 were 1713
You're far more likely to need the fire brigade to cut you out of your car or lift a tipper truck off your bike than rescue you from a fire!
So by all means get a dishwasher but get it delivered rather than drive to pick it up.
[i]Time is precious? Washing two pans, four plates and cutlery takes how long compared to load/unload? Not much longer..[/i]
What sort of meal involves just two pans? Do you use glasses and utensils?
Anyway washing up would completely ruin our white corian sink.
I think avdave2 has provided some useful perspective here.
Everything has a risk, you have to make a judgement.
A mate of mine is a H&S bod, and is usually very pragmatic about risk assessment for building demolitions etc. But he goes a strange puce colour if you talk about leaving a slow cooker on overnight in the same house as your kids.
Seriously? Get a grip on yourselves. A completely pointless PSA about fire risk
FIFY
One house fire is hardly a PSA.
You're far more likely to need the fire brigade to cut you out of your car or lift a tipper truck off your bike than rescue you from a fire!
🙂
Seriously? Get a grip on yourselves. A PSA about fire risk and people are bitching about whether to wash by hand or not.FFS.
Easy there cowboy. 🙂
This is STW,it's Friday,so a dishwasher V hand wash [s]argument[/s] debate is perfect .
I always knew the day when myself and Hora would join battle together against the forces of illogic and idleness.
How can we lose? 🙂
Obviously, this is STW, and there is no room on work surfaces to put dirty crockery because of all the coffee machines, burr grinders, breadmakers....
I always knew the day when myself and Hora would join battle together against the forces of illogic and idleness.
I think it's the modern day equivalent of the battle of Mordor, the forces of good verses evil with the very survival of middle Earth at stake.
It's the Marigolds,isn't it?
You and Hora love your Marigolds 😛
My hands and lower arms have become hardened and strengthen through years of kung-fu like hand twists as I handwash.
Come on dishwashing softies I'll take yer!
who here both does the majority of the washing up in their house (be honest) AND thinks dishwashers are pointless indulgences?
We don't have a dishwasher, but let's face it, most things in peoples houses are pointless indulgences that you could make do without.
Some stats from Which:
Washing machines accounted for around 600 fires a year, tumble dryers more than 500, dishwashers 460, ovens 350, and fridges and freezers 300. (Government data from 2011 to March 2013 about faulty appliance fires).
It's well known that most major manufacturers have had recalls on dish washers due to potential fire risks. Bosch did a massive recall a year or two. NB: Bosch make for more than just themselves, so other brands were also affected.
New house came with a dishwasher though and it has won me over with its seductive ways, especially now we have two kids.
Us too. Dishwashers are better, and that's all there is to it.
