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and Russia?

They stay to help Syria govt.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 11:32 am
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help them do what? bomb people? Cover up chemical weapons? It's not really answering the question is it. But then again whats the point in asking


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 11:42 am
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So you're not worried about all the allegations against Assad and Putin, let me guess it's all a media conspiracy and all the countries that think he's committed war crimes are lying and have underlying motives.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 11:44 am
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help them do what? bomb people? Cover up chemical weapons? It's not really answering the question is it. But then again whats the point in asking

They can do as they wish because Syria has never been the alliance to the West.

The West can stay out rather than being the trouble makers like they already are by encouraging "democracy".

Stay out.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 11:56 am
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all the countries that think he's committed war crimes are lying and have underlying motives.

That's a reasonable assessment, other than the fact that all sides in all wars commit war crimes.

This is a particularly interesting article, which I suspect you won't read, written by the associate editor of The Spectator and a former chief political commentator for The Daily Telegraph, so someone who can probably be described as having Conservative views :

[url= http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/time-judge-assads-aleppo-campaign-standards-set-mosul/ ]It’s time to judge Assad’s Aleppo campaign by the standards that we set ourselves in Mosul[/url]


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 12:16 pm
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I'm not naive enough to think that war crimes don't happen on both sides and I don't remember saying that only one side should be held accountable. But I don't think the US leaving would stop all the dreadful things happening and I certainly wouldn't be pro Putin or Assad as some people on here appear to be.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 1:56 pm
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I'm not naive enough to think that war crimes don't happen on both sides

And given that Trump has openly said that he supports [url= http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/trump-torture/ ]the use of torture "much stronger than waterboarding"[/url] and [url= http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/17/rand-paul/rand-pauls-right-geneva-conventions-bar-donald-tru/ ]killing the civilian families of combatants[/url], he'd be an odd choice if you want to end them.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:16 pm
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killing the civilian families of combatants,

Bloody hell, he really did, I missed that.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:22 pm
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and now hes said meryl streep is overrated ! the git,

Im hardly a fan of her films, but he really is just a petulant child!

just stop lying, say it was wrong and donate some of your billions to a disabled charity or something

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no wonder putin has him in his pocket, hes so easy to stimulate a response from


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:25 pm
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openly said that he supports the use of

Oh, look, you cherry picked your sources without commenting that Trump subsequently took advice from one of his experts and followed it

http://uk.businessinsider.com/james-mattis-trump-torture-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

Just imagine, a president who listens to the experts rather than entrench himself in dogma, who would have believed it?

Trump mocks reporter with disability

You think that people shouldn't be mocked, just because they have a disability? How demeaning is that?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:37 pm
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I think the point is he shouldn't have even considered it in the first place, you shouldn't need to tell the president elect that he should be against war crimes.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:41 pm
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you shouldn't need to tell the president elect that he should be against war crimes.

C'mon the USA has been carrying out extra-judicial killings abroad for yonks. Usually with drones but sometimes up close and personal (OBL).


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:49 pm
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you shouldn't need to tell the president elect that he should be against war crimes.

You mean like how Obama was going to close down Guantanamo?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:49 pm
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Oh, look, you cherry picked your sources without commenting that Trump subsequently took advice from one of his experts and followed it

I didn't cherry pick anything - I deliberately linked to FactCheck and PolitiFact coverage to be as neutral as possible.

Both stories were widely reported and you can listen to Trump say the words himself.

When challenged on both issues he became further entrenched and doubled down on his support.

He only moderated his viewpoint on torture [i]after[/i] he was elected, as your link and the NY Times interview shows, as part of his more general rollback on his campaign issues.


 
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You think that people shouldn't be mocked, just because they have a disability? How demeaning is that?

no, you can mock them as much as you want, just dont use their disability to do it, the same as you wouldnt with their race or sexuality

thats pretty obvious, I shouldnt be surprised that needs explaining to you, but I am!


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:53 pm
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He only moderated his viewpoint on torture after he was elected, as your link and the NY Times interview shows, as part of his more general rollback on his campaign issues.

So what's your problem with that then?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:56 pm
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We just have to take him for what he is. A sociopathic imbecile and intellectual lightweight.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:58 pm
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You mean like how Obama was going to close down Guantanamo?

Remind us why that didn't happen ...


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 2:59 pm
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thats pretty obvious, I shouldnt be surprised that needs explaining to you, but I am!

Of course ninfan should understand that, but when you're morally bankrupt, any turd looks like a stone to throw.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 3:01 pm
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Can we shut this thread for a year and then come back and see how much damage has been done. That is if he hasn't got bill gates to shut down the cyber in the meantime.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 3:03 pm
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We just have to take him for what he is. A sociopathic imbecile and intellectual lightweight.

Isn't that mocking his 'disabilities'?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 3:04 pm
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You think that people shouldn't be mocked, just because they have a disability? How demeaning is that?

you can mock someone [i]with[/i] a disability. That's not the same thing as mocking them [i]for[/i] their disability. But you knew that, right?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 3:04 pm
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Can we shut this thread for a year and then come back and see how much damage has been done. That is if he hasn't got bill gates to shut down the cyber in the meantime.

I was sure he was going to lose and really looking forward to this thread dying as a consequence.

Then he won. 🙁


 
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We just have to take him for what he is. A sociopathic imbecile and intellectual lightweight.

Isn't that mocking his 'disabilities'?

To be fair ninfan had it coming.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 3:15 pm
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Remind us why that didn't happen ...

Because all the conventional politicians didn't want to close it. Now a non establishment outsider will bring change...

...or something.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 3:23 pm
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Isn't that mocking his 'disabilities'?

It's a fair cop.


 
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Posted : 09/01/2017 5:10 pm
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You think that people shouldn't be mocked, just because they have a disability? How demeaning is that?

You could easily be better than this, if you only wanted to.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 5:15 pm
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You mean like how Obama was going to close down Guantanamo?

Another of Obama's heroic acts in his final days deliberately after the election so it would not affect the result is releasing people regarded as too dangerous to be released during the past 8 years of his Presidency.

On tha Golden Globes I though Hugh Lorrie was excellent ... I paraphrase "thanks for awarding me the last ever Golden Globe, I have a feeling that an award given by an organisation with the words Hollywood, Foreign and Journalist in the title may come to an end"

Streep made a fair enough point, another of Trump's low points. It was fair enough to critise or even mock the guy's reporting but the headshaking stuff crossed the line.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 5:53 pm
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Another of Obama's heroic acts in his final days deliberately after the election so it would not affect the result is releasing people regarded as too dangerous to be released during the past 8 years of his Presidency

moar #jambafacts

the overwhelming number of convicts granted early release or pardoned happened long before the election

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/12/19/president-obama-grants-153-commutations-and-78-pardons-individuals-deserving-second

Are you honestly trying to say he's released dangerous prisoners?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 6:35 pm
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So assuming he can get any celebs go to trump's inauguration , which one is going to do a Jarvis Cocker and moon Trump?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 6:45 pm
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And now has Trump broken the federal anti nepotism statute? Does look like he might have.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 7:10 pm
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Anyone else surprised the next president of the USA is allowed to have a personal Twitter account?

I mean, he can't even take a mild ribbing from some celebrities without throwing his toys out the pram, so hows he going to manage doing real politics??


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 8:30 pm
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Anyone else surprised the next president of the USA is allowed to have a personal Twitter account?

like Obama?

I mean, he can't even take a mild ribbing from some celebrities without throwing his toys out the pram, so hows he going to manage doing real politics??

If you cant tell when Trumps deliberately winding up the lefties yet, then you've got a hell of tough a four years ahead of you


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 8:48 pm
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Anyone else surprised the next president of the USA is allowed to have a personal Twitter account?

There is an official [url= https://twitter.com/POTUS ]@POTUS account[/url] which Obama created in 2015:

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Apparently the plan is that [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/11/01/what-happens-to-barack-obamas-potus-twitter-handle-when-he-leave/ ]Obama hands over the account to Trump (along with the official Instagram and Facebook account) as part of the inauguration process[/url].

But Trump already has a lot of followers on his @realDonaldTrump handle so he may just keep using that one.


 
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If you cant tell when Trumps deliberately winding up the lefties yet, then you've got a hell of tough a four years ahead of you

Eight (8) years ahead of them.

They will suffer.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 8:52 pm
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If you cant tell when Trumps deliberately winding up the lefties yet, then you've got a hell of tough a four years ahead of you

My apologies on all this, I thoiught they'd voted for a president and not just a court jester. That changes everything. 🙄


 
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If you cant tell when Trumps deliberately winding up the lefties.....

That's a good one !

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.......I'm fairly sure it was Trump who was wound up!


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:02 pm
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a president and not just a court jester.

I'm fairly sure it was Trump who was wound up!

Haahahaahha, I love hearing you repeating all these reasons why Trump shouldn't be president, which just a couple of months ago you were giving as reasons why people would [u]never[/u] vote for Trump as president.

D'oh! 😆


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:29 pm
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Haahahaahha, I love hearing you repeating all these reasons why Trump shouldn't be president, which just a couple of months ago you were giving as reasons why people [s]would[/s] should [u]never[/u] vote for Trump as president.

Subtle but important difference. Jamba has taught you well in the art of inventingness and manufacturability of words and meaning.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:34 pm
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Oh come on ninfan if you are trying to make out that trump doesnt have the temperament as a toddler you are obviously taking the piss

Seriously for this assignment, you are gonna get D-, must try harder, at troll school


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:38 pm
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Ninfan, do you think Trump should be president?


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:47 pm
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Who would have thought that Meryl Streep was anti Trump? She is a talented actress but just an actress - its not a proper job and she doesn't help people. and she has never stood for office or won an election - she should have zero airtime. Like all celebrities.

You are all soooo boring and predictable. Guess what? Maybe Trump will be a good president? Maybe people care about jobs being outsourced abroad etc etc.

He won, get over it.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:52 pm
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Funny how all these lefties, after spending years telling us that we shouldn't trust the media, immediately gobble up the 'truth' that the media feeds them...

Media hijacks The Doughnuts' Twitter account, shocka!! 😯
Good to see you swallowing everything Donald, ninfan, I'm sure it'll work out well for you.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 9:52 pm
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I know Brian Griffin is a jester.

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