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If this guy wasn’t a hard-core Trumpist, I would have thought it was a pretty good parody.

What is that guy on?

If ever there was a need for some sort of mental capacity test to serve in office....


 
Posted : 21/12/2022 3:34 pm
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That tweet my Lord how thick can you really be.


 
Posted : 21/12/2022 6:42 pm
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If my thermostat makes me vote Tory I'll be fuming!


 
Posted : 21/12/2022 7:23 pm
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Any lawyers on here? Is it a good sign when the judge warns you that your lawsuit is vexatious and frivolous?

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1605683966287265792


 
Posted : 21/12/2022 11:56 pm
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'vexatious and frivolous' pretty much sums up his business empire, political career, his love life and relationship with his hairdresser.

Its also his pet names for his testicles


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 12:02 am
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Rep Scott Perry - W.T.A.F! 😳

There is no way on God’s green earth that a ****wit like that should be allowed to run a coconut shy, let alone be allowed anywhere near a government office.


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 2:38 am
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^^^
I can't help but feel that, even in current day USA, there's no way anyone that idiotic could actually get elected so maybe his Twitter account was hacked.
Or am I being to generous?


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 3:45 am
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I can’t help but feel that, even in current day USA, there’s no way anyone that idiotic could actually get elected so maybe his Twitter account was hacked.
Or am I being to generous?

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 4:37 am
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Its also his pet names for his testicles

Chuckle


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 5:59 am
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I can’t help but feel that, even in current day USA, there’s no way anyone that idiotic could actually get elected so maybe his Twitter account was hacked.
Or am I being to generous?

It depends if he says it because he believes it, or if he is just manipulating the qnanon\election steal\maga nutters to ger and remain elected.


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 6:03 am
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It depends if he says it because he believes it, or if he is just manipulating the qnanon\election steal\maga nutters to ger and remain elected.

That's the thing. Most or all of the MAGA/Tea Party people in Congress know the conspiracy theory stuff is utter bollox, they just keep repeating it because it gets the attention of Republican voters. It's all just a big joke to them.


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 6:21 am
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Maybe his Chinese made phone is changing his sane messages.


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 8:13 am
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There is no way on God’s green earth that a ****wit like that should be allowed to run a coconut shy, let alone be allowed anywhere near a government office.

Tory MP criticised for complaining about Priests literally "doing their job"


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 8:18 am
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That MP got owned by tbe Archbishop of Canterbury, think its on the Braverman thread.


 
Posted : 22/12/2022 10:45 am
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Hopefully he'll just fade into irrelevance.

https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/1606469753937223680


 
Posted : 27/12/2022 1:12 am
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Wow! Finally some lying that even Fox news finds too much to bear.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1607916062653251586


 
Posted : 28/12/2022 4:40 am
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That new York magazine/intelligencer article was good reading - thank you

The genius of Trump, Nigerian scammers, & bitcoin peddlers comes from realizing that there is a large untapped niche of dumb people, so dumb that the dumber your argument, the more they will fall for you.

Normal & rational people have too many inhibitions to play that game.

This misses the point entirely imv. It's all about 'teaching the garden to weed itself'. the shysters are deliberate in their language, their misuse of grammar and their failure to spell and punctuate even close to correctly. In the same way trump deliberately contradicts himself in his speeches. The target of these communications is those who are easily taken in. If you're given to look at things critically you're of no use and in fact a drag on resource. Respond and engage only if you're uncritical - then you're worth investing in for what can be taken from you. Your money, your vote, or in trump's case both


 
Posted : 29/12/2022 10:52 pm
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Wow! Finally some lying that even Fox news finds too much to bear.

That was great to watch! She was a ran for the Democratic nomination for President in 2019, it would have been interesting to see what she could have been like if she was successful


 
Posted : 30/12/2022 8:18 am
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sinking ship ? we live in hope


 
Posted : 03/01/2023 10:26 pm
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Something funky going on in congress right now with the speaker vote not going to script with Jordan and some of the Trumpite republicans holding out for more compromises. The canker of nastiness that clung around Trump is still festering away. A quick biog of Jordan makes rather unpleasant reading.


 
Posted : 03/01/2023 11:06 pm
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BBC has a live blog of the vote for the new speaker.

First time in 100 years that the Speaker has needed more than one vote. Wonder if they're going for the record?


 
Posted : 03/01/2023 11:09 pm
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Wonder if they’re going for the record?

The current record to beat is 133!


 
Posted : 03/01/2023 11:12 pm
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Yeah, can't figure out where this is going. AIUI, there must be at least 218 (?) votes for one candidate and the Democrats can't muster that number of votes, so yet again, the US is being held hostage by extreme right nutters.

Unless sense prevails, and sufficient moderate Republicans (does such a thing exist anymore?) decide to vote for a Democrat speaker...


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 1:00 am
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Unless sense prevails, and sufficient moderate Republicans (does such a thing exist anymore?) decide to vote for a Democrat speaker…

More likely that Democrats will vote for a moderate Republican on the understanding that the MAGA agenda get ignored.

I pick the lettuce too.
https://twitter.com/Tom23960586/status/1610430294334607360


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 1:19 am
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Trump seems pretty toxic, especially as his peers are now very aware of how fragile his business model is.

I can't see the repubicans giving him any favours.

He's basicaly a non-entity at best, but more likley a total liability, but the larger issue at hand, is that a more astute right wing republican will take his place.


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 1:24 am
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He’s basicaly a non-entity at best, but more likley a total liability, but the larger issue at hand, is that a more astute right wing republican will take his place.

The problem is that he still has very strong support among Republican base voters.

About 30% of voters are registered Republicans (maybe a bit higher, but below 40%, I believe).

To run for Congress, a Republican first has to win nomination by their party. They need 50% + 1 votes in a Republican primary. Even though only 20% of voters are hard-core MAGA voters, that's a majority of Republicans in red states. Those red state seats are safe Republican seats, therefore, MAGA candidates dominate the Republican caucus.

Mainstream Republicans like Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney (who are staunchly conservative, but fundamentally honest) know that the MAGA nuttery drives moderate voters away, but the MAGA core of the Republican voters don't care - they aren't interested in assembling a governing coalition and crafting a pragmatic policy portfolio that will generate enough mainstream support to be enacted, they are only interested in performative stunts to demonstrate their distain for anyone who disagrees with them.

So, basically, the Republican party is dominated by nutters who aren't interested in actually governing. They know that Trump is toxic and drives away moderates, but they think that owning the libs is the purpose of getting elected so they back Trump because he drives away moderates, not in spite of it.


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 2:02 am
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Yeah, can’t figure out where this is going. AIUI, there must be at least 218 (?) votes for one candidate and the Democrats can’t muster that number of votes, so yet again, the US is being held hostage by extreme right nutters

It seems like a system that works perfectly as long as people are more or less reasonable and public-minded. Lol. Now we have one or two headbangers- and the people who matter will know exactly who they are- who can hold out for their three wishes. The only balance to that is that if they want anything too extreme, he might lose some votes from the More Reasonable Caucus, but the way US politics is now it'd be a huge step for a republican to step away from Mcarthy and towards a Democrat. And there's not really a more reasonable Republican candidate, and if there were they'd face the exact same problem. And on the other hand Mccarthy is so fundamentally untrustworthy and spineless and the overall process so broken that there's no point in him even making a pitch to democrats because they know any deal is worthless. With the exception of the dino Manchin, who himself basically occupies the headbanger territory in his own party, but he'd have been the first door they knocked on.

The only winners are the biggest headbangers. They're also the only republicans that can make capital out of refusing to support Mccarthy. It's in their interests just to drag it through a couple more rounds of voting so their headbanger voters can approve of their headbangerness.

It's a bit like when Theresa May couldn't form a government so the DUP were able to extort literal bribes of a billion quid of public money for their support


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 4:26 am
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Where's that picture of the tardigrade violinist when you need it?

https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1610499466255273984


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 8:53 am
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Yeah, can’t figure out where this is going. AIUI, there must be at least 218 (?) votes for one candidate and the Democrats can’t muster that number of votes, so yet again, the US is being held hostage by extreme right nutters.

Unfortunately the democrats recent experience will be the inspiration. With politic having become so polarised and the house and senate being so closely balanced - it has been the outliers that hold the power. Joe Manchin and Kyrstin Sinema have dominated democrat policy by being the one or two votes needed to make anything happen and not being prepared to toe the party line. So thats what this bunch of republic**ts want to do - signal that without a concession to them nothing the party tries to do will succeed. Which is funny really as most of what the Republican Party does is try and not do anything.

We're in the same boat obviously. Thats why Braverman has a job.


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 10:25 am
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It's back to the voting public. These utter shysters would just be turgid irrelevant pub bores (or crooked businessmen, or both) without the electorate giving them the power to do damager. Over 30% of American voting adults still being members of the GOP....with the track record of what they have done in recent years (Inc Jan 6th) is frankly sign of a toxic nation. They are either morons or actually approve of their shit - not sure what is more terrifying.

UK is no better mind you. There are 81,336 members of the conservative party that gave Truss a chance to **** us all over that need a damn good thrashing too!


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 10:52 am
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Joe Manchin and Kyrstin Sinema have dominated democrat policy by being the one or two votes needed to make anything happen and not being prepared to toe the party line.

Sinema seems to only be interested in promoting her own career, she doesn't seem to have any coherent package of policies that she wants to implement. She would not be able to win another primary as a Democrat so she's going to run as an independent. She has no hope of winning as an independent, the question is whether she hurts the Democratic or Republican nominee more in the general election.

Manchin is a senator from West Virginia, which is deeply conservative coal country. Many of the left-wing policy platforms would be political suicide for him, he can only survive by being a pragmatic centrist (which makes him relatively right-wing compared to the left-wing of the Democratic Party.) In order to maintain a senate majority, the Democratic Party has to retain senate seats like the one that Manchin holds, which means that they need to avoid forcing him into a choice of voting for policies that his conservative constituents won't accept. If the Democrats imposed a left-wing purity test to throw out centrists like Manchin, they would lose their senate majority and be much worse off than they are with Manchin giving them a majority, but killing some policies. They have no realistic choice other than letting him vote how he chooses.


 
Posted : 04/01/2023 11:16 am
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And now the 10thvote has failed. He even seems to be losing votes as this time he is down one to 200

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/jan/05/house-speaker-vote-republicans-kevin-mccarthy

I'm wondering if there is an upside to this in that they won't be able to get a speaker who can force through the most toxic stuff as he won't have a strong enough base.


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 12:20 am
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The twist could be nominating a reasonable republican by the Democrats and then they vote for him.  End up not with a loon in charge


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 12:24 am
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Oh that would be a twist


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 12:28 am
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Shows how unreasonable these people are. If you fail to achieve something ten times in a row, at what point do you foxtrot-oscar?

DISCLAIMER I have no clue about the actual machinations of this vote.


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 12:42 am
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I’m wondering if there is an upside to this in that they won’t be able to get a speaker who can force through the most toxic stuff as he won’t have a strong enough base.

Is it the speaker that forces stuff through? I thought the President has his plans & the house votes. Now the Reps have the majority most will be stymied anyway?


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 11:03 am
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Is it the speaker that forces stuff through? I thought the President has his plans & the house votes.

The speaker controls the agenda in the House, but legislation also needs ratification in the senate, plus a signature from the president to become law. It's a very complex system. Biden spent decades in the senate, Nancy Pelosi decades in the house. Between them, they achieved a huge amount because they understood how the system works.

The clowns holding up the speaker confirmation aren't interested in actually passing any legislation, they're just mugging for the camera to get votes back home in Backofbumsarse.

My money is on McCarthy holding on for at least 20 votes but quitting before 30. He obviously has zero self respect, but eventually it will dawn on him that the humiliation will never have a pay-off. Still, his name will be a major footnote in history.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1611061108260933632


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 6:00 pm
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a reasonable republican

Not many candidates for that in the House of reps any more.


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 6:13 pm
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What'd be really interesting is to see exactly what each of the flipped rebels has been promised.

One of the better outcomes now is that it gets to the point where the proper loons- Gaetz and Boebart and scum like that- are still holding out for whatever insanity it is they want, free guns for preschoolders or if you're gaetz free preschoolers for him, and then just 3 democrats tactically flip and make them irrelevant and they can both **** off with nothing


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 8:33 pm
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and then just 3 democrats tactically flip and make them irrelevant and they can both **** off with nothing

Depending what he's promised the rebels, might have been in the Democrats interests to vote him in sooner. Which would have really made the headbangers heads explode


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 10:06 pm
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Depending what he’s promised the rebels, might have been in the Democrats interests to vote him in sooner.

Thats the problem isn't it. These fruit loops are going to get themselves on some fairly important committees and immediately decide the most important thing to do is investigate Hunter Bidens 'selfies' or something.


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 10:33 pm
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decide the most important thing to do is investigate Hunter Bidens ‘selfies’ or something.

Sadly a lot of those already supporting him are already planning on that. The holders out probably just want to skip investigation and move straight to execution of all "liberals".


 
Posted : 06/01/2023 10:55 pm
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Depending what he’s promised the rebels, might have been in the Democrats interests to vote him in sooner.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

I think the Democrats are doing the right thing in just letting the Republicans come to terms with their own stupidity. The holdouts don't really want anything policy-wise, they're just showing off to their voters back home that they can cripple the government anytime they want. Having done that, they can't back down now. The Democrats should just let them keep on doing stupid until they're so desperate that moderate Republicans go begging to the Democrats to bail them out of the mess.


 
Posted : 07/01/2023 3:20 am
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Oh dear, Republicans at each others' throats.

https://twitter.com/andyharnik/status/1611582256660758528


 
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