In the past trump was able to drag out legal suits, buy off litigants and generally get away with whatever he was accused of.
He was the biggest dog in the fight.
Not this time; James has referred this to the IRS and, I think, the DoJ.
IRS and DoJ represent the US government; as someone posted a few pages back, there is no bigger dog.
This case, combined with all the others, should see the end of trump.
Next month sees the start of a court case against the trump org with weisselberg testifying against as part of his plea bargain; if he doesn't keep his end if that agreement he'll serve time.
Must be a stressful way to live your life…
Has the Donald ever known happiness?
Does he look like a happy guy to you? He's found his people by appealing to folk who are always looking at something to feel mad about or threatened by. Populism isnt popular because it makes everyone happy. Its for people who revel in revulsion and are alway looking for another imagined bogie man to unite against. Trump can imagine bogie men all day.
some creepy cringe!
A triple whammy for the Trump household today:
The NY civil lawsuit into his (alleged!) over-inflation of his property/businesses valuations announced
The successful appeal by the DOJ to allow access to the seized Mar-a-lago documents
Another conservative activist involved in the efforts to overturn the election (Virginia Thomas) agrees to testify.
I suspect Trump won't have any more toys in the pram tonight
No matter how powerful you are, no one is above the law.
If only that were true. Theft of $15m. Likely to end in no prison time, a fine, or some sort of plea deal against other corrupt officials, which themselves will eventually come to nothing, once that is the public's gaze has been directed elsewhere.
Another conservative activist involved in the efforts to overturn the election (Virginia Thomas) agrees to testify.
Whose husband sits on the Supreme Court apparently....🤔
I'm not so sure Donald will see the inside of a cell TBH he's 76 and will either die first or tie the various cases up in procedural nonsense with whichever truckstop lawyers he can grift into defending him. Nah Don will be just fine...
It's all of his lunatic believers I'm concerned about, the kind of people that turn up for a 'rally' and then let themselves get talked into invading government buildings. How will those gun toting idiots respond to their Orange saviour being set upon by the state?
That and who then picks up the golden ticket to lead the coalition of crazy once Donald is finally gone...
That and who then picks up the golden ticket to lead the coalition of crazy once Donald is finally gone…
The midterms will be interesting. While "the coalition of crazy" is strengthening it's grip on the republican party, it is yet to be seen if it is resonating at all with the electorate.
Unfortunately Biden is such a non entity, he also doesn't look to be connecting with the electorate. He won last time basically on a anyone but Trump surge of the disenfranchised voters, I am not sure they will be so motivated if the political landscape still ignores them.
Court of Appeals just gave him a thumping on the classified documents issue.
https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1572739925585412097
In his comments the judge told them they can’t have their cake and eat it! That’s blunt language for this sort of thing. I don’t think the lawyers have said they have been declassified though, that’s come from the Donald himself. He must be a nightmare to work for in a legal case.
The lawyers haven't (can't) say they've been declassified, because they haven't. It's one thing to tweet (or truth or whatever) whatever bollix that you want, it's another thing entirely to make the claim as an attorney in a court of law. Because if it turns out to be a lie (it is) then you could be disbarred and potentially find yourself in the Dock too.
So if Donald is claiming it, but the lawyers aren't using it, that's a pretty good sign that it's all a figment of his imagination. He is well and truly busted!
He just has to think they are declassified and they are. Also, the FBI were actually searching for Hillary's emails. And, sending it to Mar-a-Lago or "wherever", where else did he send them?
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1572790894834913280
Hes in lumber for his golf courses in Scotland too.
Can we just not lock him up. Maybe have a global vote?
Guys just and odious turd
I particularly liked the declaration of nil value for the trump multi storey in Chicago for tax purposes.
We’ll he does claim that much of the billions he reckons he’s worth is the value of the Trump brand so maybe his lies will in fact prove to be true - a building with Trump written on it may indeed become valueless
The whole fantasy values things is interesting, things declared as being worth a kabillion dollars when it came to insurance, securing loans and generally masturbating, and then the same thing being declared as worthless for tax, bankruptcies etc. Obviously that's fairly commonplace but it's straight up fraud and the trump org did it so constantly and casually that it should be easy to roll up a bunch of those cases
This is like watching something on Netflix when you don't know how many episodes or series there are. Feel like you are getting to the end and then BOOM! New series.
Apparently Trump can declassify documents with his mind!
Using the power of his mind, Biden now classifies all of qanon and truth social.
Lol, spectacular comeback (if only it was true)
Lol, very good.😁
Perhaps The Donald could offer to travel to Russia to do his bit by joining up; what with all the eligible Russians running for the borders, I’m sure Putin will welcome his American buddy with open arms.
It would solve a lot of problems…
He would, but ya know, those pesky bone spurs. Poor guy.
Well, it seems that the legal troubles of the Orange excrement-gibbon roll remorselessly onwards. This from the Grauniad
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/24/donald-trump-investigation-mar-a-lago-legal-woes
Essentially though, not withstanding the Special Master, the DoJ has been given permission to continue with its examination of the classified docs. So he has managed to delay things by a couple of weeks.
When the pincers finally close on him, I expect his fall to be dramatic and quick..
When the pincers finally close on him, I expect his fall to be dramatic and quick.
I dunno, part of me relishes it being slow and drawn out, just so we can really appreciate every salacious little detail of his decline.
I’d like to see him end up living in a double-wide on a trailer park next to the Salton Sea in California, a most appropriate location for the orange shit-gibbon to finish up.
https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ca-saltonsea/
With Trumpers, it's impossible to tell parody from reality.
https://twitter.com/PeterMSmiths/status/1573862023586267136
Meanwhile the Orangeutang isn't the only one facing jail time.
Turns out his completely above the board, rational, level-headed sometime election fraud advisor is facing a bit of bird too..
Really, couldn't happen to a nicer guy..
When the pincers finally close on him, I expect his fall to be dramatic and quick.
I dunno, part of me relishes it being slow and drawn out,
Thing is - Trump is relishing it too- for all his bleating and wingeing the whole Mar a Largo circus is keeping him the centre of attention. He's currently furious about De-Santis's Martha's Vineyard stunt partly because he feels it was his idea and Whitehouse officials prevented him from carrying it out, but mainly because the coverage of it has knocked State-Secrets-Gate out of the headlines for a few days. His car-crash interview with Hannity blurting out nonsense about the FBI actually looking for Hillary's emails at Mar a Largo are just pouring fuel on the fire so the spotlight turns back to him again
Thing is – Trump is relishing it too- for all his bleating and wingeing the whole Mar a Largo circus is keeping him the centre of attention.
I highly doubt it. It's one thing to spout shite on TV, or at rally's or on social media, but it's a whole world of difference to do the same in court.
Does anyone know whether Trump himself has ever actually taken the stand in any of his legal challenges or has he always done a deal or otherwise weasel out of court appearances?
Obviously, he pleaded the 5th in his deposition the other week, but outside of that, has he appeared in court?
Not sure but he's a busy boy..
I expect his fall to be dramatic and quick..
I expect the outpouring of violence when that happens will be dramatic and long lasting
I expect the outpouring of violence when that happens will be dramatic and long lasting
I expect it to short and relatively localised. Even rednecks don't like being played for fools by privileged rich kids.
I think the convictions of the insurrectionists will be a deterrent and the backlash to the poor police response to the insurrection will lead to a very heavy handed response
I think the racial and political violence is only going to increase, and i think the likes of the 3 Percenters, boogaloo bois, and so on will be aided by mostly racist police forces across the central states and will act l (as they did on Jan 6th) with more and more impunity egged on by a few vocal supporters and enablers and an otherwise passive Republican party doing whatever they can to shore up a declining vote.
Either way next election if Donald wins or loses it's going to be wild
Donny has rebranded his movement to "Make America Gay Again"
Fascinating bit of podcast recently about some Trump lawyers who are actually good at their job. For all the fallings out and ripping offs and spats and feuds (and a bit of going to prison) theres a handful of lawyers that Trump unwittingly gave the keys to the Whitehouse to, who've feathered their own bed and while everything else has gone up in flames they're doing quite nicely thank you.
The New Abnormal from about 17mins
Its about the law firm Jones Day, who cut their teeth first defending, and then later promoting, the tobacco industry then turned their ambition to politics. They zeroed in on Trump right at the beginning of his campaign simply because they saw him as an empty vessel. Having helped propel him to power they followed him into the Whitehouse, gave themselves government jobs and used those jobs to give more jobs the other employees of Jones Day - many of them being lifetime appointments. So while Trump has been and gone.... they are still there. Jones Day is now able to represent its clients in front of Judges they personally appointed.
An interesting parallel drawn here...he so nearly gets it.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1577769068152487936
Hmm - "the FBI - all they do is investigate". Well, yeah - it's in the name - To protect the people and to uphold the constitution - that's their mandate. It was yours too, but you seemed to forget it on Jan 6th.
in the same speech ^^ he claimed a pollster told him would have beaten george washington, abe lincoln running team by 40 pts! 😀
To be fair, their grasp on social media and modern issues would be a bit poor
Supreme Court refuse to intervene in Mar a Lago documents case.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/supreme-court-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html
Not going well for the orange one.
And about to be subpoena-ed by the Jan 6 Committee.
Yay, a bad day year for Trump is a ray of sunshine is an otherwise gloomy 2022!
I god I hope this is a big step towards putting this dangerous idiot behind bars! As far as I know 1.30 ET is 6.30pm UK time
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1584547916152086529?t=9VxRJc0zYSOnqj-kV2OjCw&s=19
^^^
Nah, that's nothing related to Trump
