I do love the idea of librarians being his undoing. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-national-archives-classified-b2158785.html?amp
@stwhannah Those librarian films and the TV series weren't fiction, documentaries every one.
Oh, the conspiracy nutters are going to have a field day with this.
https://twitter.com/PETEKEELEY/status/1567302618145517573
Yeeeeeeeeeees.
It's really frustrating, because everyone is focusing on the fact that he had these documents (which is undisputed I think?) - what I really want to know is WHY did he have them? What was he doing/intending to do with them?
It's one thing pinching classified material - it's another thing distributing..... or even selling it.
The trouble will be proving that latter part. They could get him for holding the docs, but proving his intention to sell to a foreign agent will be near impossible.
I'd say it is possible for him (he could get good money for them), but a prosecution would need someone to confirm that.
Wasn't there a claim that there's a second criminal case being investigated, linked to this one but not public? I thought there were court documents signed by same judge and interrelated evidence, but which were not made public.
With how sensitive things are it really would not surprise me if the investigating team did have more accusations, but choosing which to follow and to keep them private until full evidence is established, and without revealing national secrets as they go.
But hey, I'm getting into conspiracy theory stuff...
If you look at the photo of the docs there's a UK government coat of arms on one of the headers
They could get him for holding the docs, but proving his intention to sell to a foreign agent will be near impossible
Just being in possession is enough. I don't see how he gets out of this.
Oh, the conspiracy nutters are going to have a field day with this.
There really aren't that many nuclear-capable states.. if it turns out he's been selling Israeli nuclear secrets to the Saudis, then I'd imagine that the DOJ would be the least of his problems.
if it turns out he’s been selling Israeli nuclear secrets to the Saudis, then I’d imagine that the DOJ would be the least of his problems.
You know that Israel is run by Jews, right? (That's not a conspiracy theory, it really is run by Jews.) So, Jared has business ties with the Saudis, Donald has the dirt on the Jewish nuclear bomb, the FBI and CIA are involved, Hunter's laptop... etc. Every conspiracy nutter's Christmas come true, they'll tie this all up into some outlandish nonsense theory.
It’s one thing pinching classified material – it’s another thing distributing….. or even selling it.
Mishandling classified information is enough to get you jail time. I don't think that is in dispute
Every conspiracy nutter’s Christmas come true, they’ll tie this all up into some outlandish nonsense theory.
We appear to be living in a reality which quite literally trumps most previous conspiracy theories. You have to be into intergalactic lizards to push the boundaries these days.
Hopefully JHJ can pop along to keep us up to date on the latest.
I suspect his reason for holding the documents was to make himself look and feel important
I suspect his reason for holding the documents was ti make hi.self look and feel important
Apparently none other than Kid Rock has previously said that Trump showed him stuff he had no business seeing. I'm hoping this refers to paperwork, rather than anything else.
So it's clear that he probably waves around this shit to anyone who wanders into Mar-a-Lago.
So, Jared has business ties with the Saudis, Donald has the dirt on the Jewish nuclear bomb, the FBI and CIA are involved, Hunter’s laptop… etc. Every conspiracy nutter’s Christmas come true, they’ll tie this all up into some outlandish nonsense theory.
Just need Jimmy Saville for the full set, we know the connection to Prince Andrew already
I suspect his reason for holding the documents was to make himself look and feel important
Although there were a lot of empty folders too and some of the paperwork that was returned had been torn up - so maybe as much motivated my shame as vanity. Aside from the empty folders at Mar a Lago he was also flushing torn up paperwork down the toilets in the Whitehouse.
Trump tended to act aggressively towards Whitehouse officials who wrote any notes during meetings - he didnt like anything being written down. Theres no doubt behind the facade he's hugely humiliated by his time in office. The idea that every single note, document and transaction during those four years becoming part of a permanent public record must be pretty haunting.
martinhutch
Full MemberApparently none other than Kid Rock has previously said that Trump showed him stuff he had no business seeing.
Did Trump tell him that this is for the questions that don't have any answers?
Looks like Trump now being investigated over his "Save America" (sic) PAC.
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1567877713506992129
Medical emergency, apparently.
https://twitter.com/lindyli/status/1569178659071692802
https://twitter.com/DonLew87/status/1569157575882555393
I find it hard to believe that the healthiest,fittest,best looking president in the history of America has any medical problems. It's probably some trivial illegal accusations that his elite team of lawyers need to get sorted ASAP.
FAKE NEWS - the Antifa news have staged a body double of a conspicuously dressed Trump to…make him look bad. It’s just SAD. Bigly SAD.
speculation that Trump is being arrested/indicted 😕 Though he might have a funeral to go to ?
How is it that anyone ever took Giuliani seriously? As far as I can tell, he was always a nut.
https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1569668871648608256
Is anyone able to explain this?
https://twitter.com/w7lvez/status/1569537912378900482?t=n7MPNjuLAqysJ9kPbbDPlw&s=19
Satire died a few years back, cant tell up from down any more
No
He's interested in the dictatorship side, not the political side of things.
there a video of the orange shitgibbon driving around his virginia golf course in buggy being chased or chasing his lawyers around also in buggies... just needs the benny hill music.
markgraylish - just sign uo for a free account.
markgraylish – just sign uo for a free account.
Ive already have a NYT account but I've exceeded my free access limits...
markgraylish - yes, it's the article which CNN picked up on.
Sounds like he's openly using Qanon now
He posted a 'truth' (Ha!) On lie social that was a picture of him with a Q badge and the headline 'The Storm is Coming'. He's pretty desperate now I'd say..
That or he's hell bent on doing something really, really dumb and committing political suicide. It's what did for him in 2016 right..?..Oh!
I think the qanon lunatics/radicalised halfwits and their followers are pretty much the only group that he can still count on without question. Preaching to the converted has always been his thing- he doesn't like convincing people, he likes having crowds cheer when he says what they want to hear, so it's pretty natural for him to go ever deeper in that direction. Looks like it'll continue to reduce his wider appeal and lead to an increase in dangerous madness from him, while keeping him in the public eye enough that people will see it happening even while the legal stuff continues, so I reckon it's mostly self harming but at the same time it'll stop him from becoming as irrelevant as if he tried to stay more mainstream- he'll have less support, but the support he has will be waaaay more movivated and dangerous.
he’ll have less support, but the support he has will be waaaay more movivated and dangerous
Yes, seems to be the most likely outcome.
Well it looks like his lawyers stunt to get a third party involved in the top secret docs scandal isn’t quite what they had hoped for, CNN reporting……
Judge Raymond Dearie, the special master overseeing the seizure of documents from Mar-a-Lago, signaled to lawyers for former President Donald Trump that if they don't make a case that any of the documents were declassified, he would determine that they're classified.
In his comments the judge told them they can’t have their cake and eat it! That’s blunt language for this sort of thing. I don’t think the lawyers have said they have been declassified though, that’s come from the Donald himself. He must be a nightmare to work for in a legal case.
trump, donald jnr, eric and ivanka all being sued for fraud by Letitia James' office.
Court papers are on CNN website.
Just another nail...
I feel there's decades of argument and court process ahead.
Same same. Trump has spent most of his life being sued by private individuals, companies and government agencies. This is just his latest challenge, but situation normal for him. He'll carry on doing the same until he dies. We will never see him in jail.
Must be a stressful way to live your life...
Has the Donald ever known happiness?
I sure hope not.
