I'm still seeing lots of people online claiming that the Capitol riot was all just Antifa in disguise. 🙄
You'd like to think an official probe would help, but these people are already blindly ignoring the fact that no one arrested was antifa, and that right-wingers livestreamed it from their own social media accounts, so I doubt it.
I’m still seeing lots of people online claiming that the Capitol riot was all just Antifa in disguise.
I thought the Republican party had decided that the Capitol riot looked like a normal tourist visit?
See the guy on the left.? He now thinks it was just tourists.
So they lawyer claims the rioters were "brain damaged" etc. How many of them turned out to be in the services/police? Says a lot for their recruitment vetting!
Yeah, that's the alternate gaslight story. They have a few variants.
The rewritten narrative appears to be something like:
- The speeches beforehand didn't encourage any violence because Trump said "peacefully" (once, near the start. He also used the word "fight" 20 times and had the crowd chanting "Fight For Trump").
- It was a perfect peaceful protest. There was no violence or damage.
- The violence and damage was all caused by Antifa/BLM in disguise.
- There is no evidence of violence or damage and the fact that there is so much video evidence of violence and damage from live-streams shows that it was a frame up by Antifa.
- The people that tore down the American flag and erected the Trump flag in its place were also Antifa.
- Ashli Babbitt was a brave patriot who was murdered by security for no reason at all and/or she was an antifa agitator and/or she never really existed.
nickc
Full MemberSee the guy on the left.? He now thinks it was just tourists.
It's really bizarre, this. Because there's 2 photos of him during the attack that really stick out, one being that one where he is quite reasonably shitting his pants. But in the other, he was helping barricade the door against the mob, just a few yards from where Ashli Babbitt was killed. That's bloody brave and deserves recognition. (and self-interested, sure, but most people in the chamber were not doing what he did)
And then, he decides to rewrite history. So now instead of being the brave military veteran who stood the line between his colleagues and friends and a riot, he'll be remembered for the picture where he's shitting his pants, and as a completely dishonest terrorist apologist. Why would you do that to yourself? There's no shortage of other people who were spreading the lie...
as a completely dishonest terrorist apologist. Why would you do that to yourself?
Even weirder is that answer to that very sensible question appears to be; so an narcistic amoral embezzling orange shit-gibbon will think favourably of him.
I think you missed out increasingly irrelevant from that list of Trumps "qualities", which makes it even more peculiar.
Apparently 51% of Republican voters believe the storming of the Capitol building was done by the radical left seeking to discredit Trump.
As I posted earlier, Republicans like those voting in Congress are doing nothing more than virtue signalling. They need to shit or get off the pot and start another party else they are just enablers.
Half of the Republican party's support is bat shit crazy and the number of Republican representatives that are bat shit crazy is increasing as well. If you think you are hanging in there to try and save your party think again, your party is lost, see that 51% figure. The best that virtue signalling vote will get you is deselection or a Trump candidate standing against you come the next election cycle.
Does anyone on here think that there is any chance that the Republican Party will return to normality? That it will stabilise?......
Thought not, and given that thought, every day that so called non bat shit crazy Republicans procrastinate they are assisting the demagouges, traitors and fascists that they sit alongside (until they themselves get kicked out). They are destroying their country by backing a lie and that's bat shit crazy too.
Liz Cheney's primary challenger getting the dirty laundry out before oppo researchers do.
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1395790033383301120
Apparently 51% of Republican voters believe the storming of the Capitol building was done by the radical left seeking to discredit Trump.
When he was in power, he was able to control the narrative and feed the big lie, now I would be surprised if the figure was still that high as he has been much less effective in communicating that lie in the face of reality. I think it will still be too high but I would expect it to be a bit less than 50%.
It is still a dangerous narrative to spout, but unless the democrats **** up big, it isn't a winning narrative. They may further radicalise those already too far along that path, but they are not winning anybody over with this stupidity.
Amazon buying MGM may get Trump nervous.... MGM own Apprentice outtakes
Amazon buying MGM may get Trump nervous…. MGM own Apprentice outtakes
The Orange Buffoon has closed his "From the desk" blog page. Probably because nobody was reading it. Hopefully he's becoming increasingly irrelevant. Fingers crossed!
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/02/trump-blog-page-shuts-down-for-good.html
cheque bounced.
Yeah, saw that last night. People like Sidney Powell, Steve Bannon, that creepy My Pillow guy and Michael Flynn are apparently vying to provoke an insurrection. It'll either be a treasonous plot that'll land at least one of them in jail, a means of signalling to wannabe GOP presidential candidates that team Trump are the only show in town, pure grift or the insane mutterings of an increasingly irrelevant bunch of loonies.
It’ll either be a treasonous plot that’ll land at least one of them in jail
That sounds a very fine line for them to be taking - or are they so far down the rabbit hole they are hoping their arrest will actually start it?
That sounds a very fine line for them to be taking – or are they so far down the rabbit hole they are hoping their arrest will actually start it?
There are elements funding the GOP who apparently believe that democracy is a barrier to competing with China amongst other things. It's a fair bet that there's a whiff of grift from the likes of the useful idiots like Powell et all, knowing that they can fall back on the "shortbus" defence.
DO you not think that all those touting a coup think they are safe because if they do get arrested/jailed it'd be 'proof' theres a consipiracy and it'll kick start the rebellion (whilst the mob frees them from jail)?
I see the 'audit' in Arizona are now going to give 'tours' of their work. Presumably other republican states will be given the VIP tour to see how they can join in. That starts getting a little creepy and dangerous. This stuff needs to be shut down now but it it does everyone is going to shout coverup.
a person familiar with his thinking said
"Thinking" here doing a lot of heavy lifting.
The former president had heard from friends that the site was making him look small and irrelevant
I love the emphasis on "small and irrelevant". Marvellous.
a means of signalling to wannabe GOP presidential candidates that team Trump are the only show in town, pure grift or the insane mutterings of an increasingly irrelevant bunch of loonies.
I hope people aren't thinking that now Trump has gone, so are his politics. The GOP have become infected with it, their recent actions demonstrate this, all it takes is for them to field a presidential candidate with trumpian politics, but without the trumpian idiocy, and the dems to do too much cosying up to corporate America, and 2024 could see a return.
This is by no means over.
The appeal of Trump to the Republicans was that his daily theatre on social media was a distraction while the functioning apparatus of the state was quietly neutered or dismantled. Make no mistake here, there are a number of candidates waiting in the wings to repeat the cycle and they will rely on an energized voter base overcoming apathy from the liberally minded to retake office, perhaps permanently.
This all goes back to spending limits on personal donations - a small number of sympathetic billionaires with deep pockets and one hand on the policy tiller are probably the greatest threat to American democracy right now. Fascism isn't a spontaneous movement - it relies on sponsorship to flourish, cut the funding off at the source and it withers and dies.
The appeal of Trump to the Republicans was that his daily theatre on social media was a distraction while the functioning apparatus of the state was quietly neutered or dismantled. Make no mistake here, there are a number of candidates waiting in the wings to repeat the cycle and they will rely on an energized voter base overcoming apathy from the liberally minded to retake office, perhaps permanently.
I don't think that's what happened. Trump said out loud what a lot of people thought. The Republican establishment initially believed he'd be a flash-in-the pan so they ignored him. Once he showed that the extremist voters supported him, other Republican politicians realized that opposing him would be the end of their careers. He just terrorized the Republicans and they were too scared to oppose him.
Guys like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley are quite smart, but utterly dishonest. They know that Trump will eventually leave the scene so they are just hoping to pick up his supporters when that happens. It has nothing to do with policies because the Republican party basically has no policies anymore beyond cutting taxes and trolling liberals.
"This all goes back to spending limits on personal donations"
This is definitely what happened. The changing of the limits to personal donations which was forced through a few years back was the straw that broke the camel's back. That action was the 4th horseman of the apocalypse if you like, following on from the creation of fake news by removal of broadcasting standards and the courting of white evangelicals (citing them as the 'true' Americans) under Reagan, closely followed by Bush removing the controls on assault rifles etc, thus arming the mob.
Trump is only a symptom. The Republicans are the cause and they own this. I also have to agree with PJM with regards Cruz and Hawley circling an ageing Trump like the supplementary characters in 'The death of Stalin'. If I were Trump I would be nervous of accepting a cup of tea from either of them. It's all a bit more game of thrones rather than house of cards.
Trump is only a symptom. The Republicans are the cause and they own this. I also have to agree with PJM with regards Cruz and Hawley circling an ageing Trump like the supplementary characters in ‘The death of Stalin’.
The future of the GOP could lie with the opportunistic Ted Cruz, or the bible belt's choice Josh Hawley, or it could lie with Eric, Donald jnr or Ivanka. In congress we see the likes of Boebert and Taylor-Greene who are highly belligerent and have nailed their colours to the mast of the loonies - neither are particularly bright, but are sufficiently gobby to grab headlines with "own the libs" type narratives and policies which are basically a series of political non-sequiturs.
It all adds up to the conclusion that the GOP is collectively very, very sick - perhaps terminally so if they falter in the mid-term elections, we could see them replaced with something much worse unless the influence of individual donors across the political spectrum is drastically curtailed. There will no doubt be senior Republicans who'd privately breathe a sigh of relief if political funding was reformed.
david packman coup, interesting takes on the GOP back story....
Booooooooo...... snopes says false ^
Nice revenge for the Biden wasn't driving nonsense 🙂
Huh?
https://twitter.com/harrysiegel/status/1402045666516480004
https://pagesix.com/2021/06/07/bill-oreilly-to-go-on-qa-tour-with-donald-trump/amp/
Full text:
Network throats hawk Joe Boredom. Newspapers wrap around fish and Pelousy.
Refugees speak about no-kan-do Kamala. Donald’s newfound silence isn’t golden.
Comes now a never before thing. Shove tweets. It’s D. Trump himself, once the dominant decisionmaker and most powerful person in the world, on a historic speaking tour. Former President Trump will provide a never-before-heard inside view of his administration. In itself that’s historic.
Bill O’Reilly grew the seed. His newie 16th best seller, “Killing The Mob” is No. 3. His 2018 “The United States of Trump” unloaded half a million copies. Bill’s no shrunken violet.
The idea’s an unprecedented December/January national tour prepped with care and caution. Four venues. Start with Fort Lauderdale, Houston. No grand banquets. No hustling franks. A Q-&-A history of Trump’s administration.
Exactly how things were accomplished as well as what did not turn out well. “President Donald J. Trump’s Conversation with Bill O’Reilly: The History Tour.”
O’Reilly: “After Biden’s inauguration, the idea rummaged around in my head two months. I flew to Mar-a-Lago April 4. I know the man 30 years. He asked how we do this. I said, ‘No pandering. No politics. It’s your handling of China, Putin, the economy, ISIS, getting the vaccine. I’ve done the research. The key is it’s all history and people don’t even know how or what. I’ll ask the questions. We’ll record it. Two hours 15 minutes. Hockey and basketball arenas that seat 18,000. My own production company books it.
“What’ll it accomplish? It’s to know what actually happened. Frustrated millions never got actual reports from anyone. They only heard haters. It’s what he did and why — and what he didn’t do. Look, he wants to make history? It’s this. No president besides Lincoln experienced this much hate. It’s not being flamboyant. It’s tell the people what you did and why. Tell us your four years. Get your version on record. Show us how it works. Anyone who loves their country champions free speech.
“So not to badger him, I put it in writing. A 45 minute Q-&-A oral history. Then intermission. People can have a cocktail. Some may even need it. The Q-&-A will be on cards from the audience.
“Interested in the concept, he trusted me. He’s a businessman. He saw it right away.”
And then soft spoken, retiring O’Reilly grinned: “Who knows? Maybe I even sing a few songs.”
Isn’t that nice?
The city, state, country, the world having such great joy, comes now a reprise of a 1978 serial killer who killed five women in a spree. A film’s now being made of it called “Rodney & Sheryl,” starring Anna Kendrick. Also, to add to that, what could be better and merrier now than news that we’re also getting a redo of TV’s antique game show “The Dating Game.” Oh boy, oh joy! What next? Fatty Arbuckle in drag? Rudolph Valentino with a crew cut?Gavel bangs for Bailey
We just lost legal goliath F. Lee Bailey who defended sweeties such as O.J. Simpson and the Boston Strangler. Disbarred, did a little bit in jail, blew his retainers before the cases started, had four wives, and carried a rabbit’s foot for luck. I knew him well. Once so front page famous that comedy writer Bruce Vilanch’s answering machine chirped: “This is F. Lee Bailey.”Clutch the pearls
The pandemic’s checkerboard housing game has now infected Greenwich, Conn., which for the most part is inoculated against poverty. Parking on its crowded main drag, one local sniffed: “I hate all these awful New York license plates that we suddenly see all over here. It’s an infiltration. Disgusting to have these people invading us.”True story. This well-to-do Park Avenue couple needed a housekeeper. A highly recommended helper came for an interview. Wages, hours, duties were set, everything OK until this possible employee saw the husband in another room — age 90 — and reclining. Said this possible helper suddenly, “No, thanks. I don’t want this job. I’m looking for longtime permanent employment.”
Only in New York, kids, only New York.
The universal translator has broken.
The universal translator has broken.
page Six is a gossipy New York Post column and website. The interesting story here is that famous groper of women and right wing tub-thumper Bill O'Reilly wants to do a grift/speaking tour with famous groper and right wing tub-thumper Trump...Where they'll spin fabrications about Trumps presidency without any of that pesky scrutiny nonsense.
Rapey O'Reilly
It’s tell the people what you did and why. Tell us your four years. Get your version on record
Yes - we need to hear Donald Trump's version of events - because in all this one thing the public has been denied its been any opportunity to hear Donald Trump's version of events.
(Do you think Trump would have read far enough down the page to see the word 'Former' in front of 'President' before agreeing to the gig? especially as Im pretty sure December/January comes after August)
Republican Congressman in can we move the moon to mitigate climate change shocker.
He knows that he's talking jive. he also knows that we know he's talking jive, but it's a safe bet that fossil fuel drilling businesses who support the Republicans and this fella's campaign aren't keen to divert some of those lovely profits into saving the planet. The problem that we have is just enough dafties are happy to vote for this guy.
