No reputable lawyer wants to work for him.
https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1355684839362539522
Which lawyer would work for someone who everyone knew hadn't paid his last lawyer?
So Trump leaned on his defence secretary Christopher Millar to order a “stand down” for the national guard over the capital coup attempt, sounds perfectly normal.........
https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1355977325368623107?s=21
That’s went well.............
I'd be so much happier if UK mainstream news outlets had adopted that approach to unverified misinformation from, say, 2015 on? Less climate denial, less anti-antiracism, les antilockfown/mask/vaccine nonsense, maybe no Brexit...
There’s definitely an argument for regulating the media further so that unsubstantiated claims aren’t legitimised. Treating News as entertainment has caused a lot of problems.
There’s definitely an argument for regulating the media further so that unsubstantiated claims aren’t legitimised. Treating News as entertainment has caused a lot of problems.
This all sounds great until governments start throwing satirists into jail. The Onion would need to shut down, for a start. Armando Iannucci would be thrown in jail for The Death of Stalin, so should Oliver Stone for JFK.
The reason the U.S. Bill of Rights includes freedom of speech is to protect people like that from despotic government. Problem is, free speech means that people are allowed to say things that you find objectionable, so sensible people are very vary of government regulation of media.
Yes, I agree that it's a fine line, but there are parts of the media that undermine and manipulate democracy itself, and thereby reduce freedom for all.
Even in the USA free speech is not an absolute right. For instance "fighting talk" is not allowed i.e. "tends to incite immediate breach of the peace". You're also not allowed to threaten the president.
I was listening to Louis Theroux interviewing Ruby Wax this morning. She really didn't like 3 people - her dad, Jimmy Saville who she decided was too creepy to interview and Donald Trump who dumped her and her crew - he just told the pilot of his private jet to land at the nearest airport and get them out of the plane.
Lovely man.
I’d be so much happier if UK mainstream news outlets had adopted that approach to unverified misinformation
Newsmax had been pushing the various election fraud claims up until the point the voting machine company sent them a polite note asking them to apologise and to desist from doing it again if they didnt want to go to court.
The reason the U.S. Bill of Rights includes freedom of speech is to protect people like that from despotic government. Problem is, free speech means that people are allowed to say things that you find objectionable, so sensible people are very vary of government regulation of media.
The first amendment didn't impede the "fairness doctrine" that used to be applied to news organisations. In fact when tested in the supreme court the decision was 8-0 in support.
dissonance
Full MemberNewsmax had been pushing the various election fraud claims up until the point the voting machine company sent them a polite note asking them to apologise and to desist from doing it again if they didnt want to go to court.
I wondered that- the bit that the anchor wrote definitely felt like it was written by a lawyer.
The first amendment didn’t impede the “fairness doctrine” that used to be applied to news organisations.
IIRC, last time Fox News faced a big lawsuit, they denied being a news service. I think they said it was just entertainment, not news. Similar thing applies to people like Jon Stewart, who was meant to be an entertainer but ended up being thought of as a news guy. Basically, unless they deliberately say something that they know is untrue and that causes harm, there's not really much anyone can do about it.
My god, James Dellingpole.....not even the Mail or Express will have him now then?
I really wish I hadn't looked at the rest of that site 😬
IIRC, last time Fox News faced a big lawsuit, they denied being a news service. I think they said it was just entertainment, not news.
Alex Jones certainly tried that angle.
Double post.
Treating News as entertainment has caused a lot of problems.
That Pillow dingbat up there was certainly entertaining!
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1357392242785333249
the earth is round....😁
Is that to flush out flat earthers?
Sometimes, you need to establish the basics
It's technically ovoid, but i agree that 2+2=4. You can demo that with apples. Or beans. Or fingers.
but a jury trial. Can you imagine how long it will take to find a suitable jury 🙁
I've never read a court document before. I never expected it'd start like that. Is that normal or just symptomatic of the petulant and infantile nature of the defendants? Entertaining nonetheless.
Ovoid is round enough for me.
US claims can be a lot wacker than UK ones. In England and Wales that opening paragraph would go in a speech or written argument, but not in the document that starts the case off, which would be a rather dry set of allegations of fact. Can't speak for Scotland though. In the US, they tend to stick evidence, argument and allegations of fact all in at once.
the earth is round….😁
Is that to flush out flat earthers?
Something can be both round and flat 🙂
So, in summary, the house says...would love you to come and chat with us; trump says...gee, thanks guys, but I'm just too busy and don't really have anything to say to you.
Translation - you're a lying scrote and we want to skin you; fk you.
A la Ralph Wiggum, if you freeze frame this video you can spot the exact moment that James Dellingpole lost his credibility -
He's not been de-platformed, he's just been found out.
To save watching the whole clip:
Just heard a soundbite of Biden's speech where he was talking about America's position on the world stage. Actions speak louder than words and all that but my word it felt good to hear him say it after the last four years!
Trumps quit the actors guild now, they were due to kick him out anyway. He said they had done nothing for him, they said thank you.
Trumps quit the actors guild now, they were due to kick him out anyway.
After his pisspoor performance pretending to be the President of the United States, I'm not surprised.
Does that mean that he can't go back to appearing on The Apprentice unless he moves filming outside the U.S. or hires scabs to work on set? He's a lousy businessman, but he did make a shedload of money off that show.
...can spot the exact moment that James Dellingpole lost his credibility...
Delingpole and people like have no place discussing international trade as an appointed expert pundit. Delingpole is an essayist, whose job is to dress up a contentious issue with words and counter logic. Unfortunately, people who read The Spectator or Breitbart largely can't tell the difference or simply don't care. Delingpole genuinely doesn't know the answer to the question put to him that has Sam Gyimah and Caroline Flint openly mocking him. But sadly, that hasn't ended his career as it should have in normal times.
Way back in 2016, I was involved in an exchange with a Brexiteer from Lincolnshire on social media. The guy was as ignorant as cheese, but kept on posting videos from Leave.eu showing various EU parliamentarians being berated by UKIP MEPs. He asserted that they were "good telling videos", which he thought was great. There was no context whatsoever, any attempt to explain this was dismissed outright as "Soros has got to you". He was a huge fan of Delingpole, but when asked why his response was "he tells it like it is".
The best analogy I have for the Brexit and Trump cultists is the difference between an adult and a child watching an episode of The Simpsons - they're both watching exactly the same script, but have a vastly different understanding of the jokes.
Trumps quit the actors guild now, they were due to kick him out anyway.
After his pisspoor performance pretending to be the President of the United States, I’m not surprised.
TBF Martin,he should have been up for an Oscar in his role as an unhinged despot.
His performance was nothing short of spectacular.
The best analogy I have for the Brexit and Trump cultists is the difference between an adult and a child watching an episode of The Simpsons – they’re both watching exactly the same script, but have a vastly different understanding of the jokes.
Absolutely the best, most concise explanation for why Brexit happened I've seen since the whole terrible shitstorm started to rumble into life.
*Applauds*
*Stands and continues applauding*
