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He's cried off a visit to war cemetery due to a bit of rain.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1061251308974493696
Well unless it was raining
The Whitehouse have released a video of the “assault”, which appears to have been doctored compared to the original live NBC footage!
Apparently the video was cobbled together from a downloaded GIF by the bloke behind the far-right Infowars website.
Good to see Agent Orange likes to surround himself with like-minded people...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/09/matthew-whitaker-acting-attorney-general-wpm-scam
How tragic that cadet bone spurs won't honour American WWI wargraves coz of some rain !
I know in the grand scheme of things there are probably worse things to worry about, but as a sometime Media Studies teacher married to a History teacher the doctored video thing bothers me hugely...
“You are a slow learner, Winston."
"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”
It's a massive worry, the lies he comes out with are a serious issue, it's setting a pattern that mean it's hard for some to be impartial unless you look at every single event
I see he’s also blamed the Californians for not maintaining the forests where the wild fire is.
Because the fires in the 98% government owned forests where Trump has cut funding should have done more, and so to punish them he's threatening to cut more money. Bawbag
15,000 posts - I'm not sure anyone would ever have expected this to run so long
I would say is been an emotional rollercoaster, but i'm struggling to think of any time we've been on the up...
I’m not sure anyone would ever have expected this to run so long
I think this is the point for a Stormy Daniels quote but I don't have any to hand....
Trump crying out of the WW1 comemoration says so much about the man.No respect for history, human sacrifice, europe, in fact anything at all. Shame on him and shame on all the people around him who have allowed him to do this.But there again, shame on a nation that put him there, and continue to allow him to represent them.
I'm sure he is about to explain how somebody else told him it wasn't possible to get there. I'm sorry but in any situation I'd have walked through the fields to be there at that point.
Is this the same Trump that can manage a round of golf in the wet? It's a good job men of sterner stuff fought in the wars or we would be up shit creek without a paddle.... OH
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Having recently seen this image I see it every time this chump opens his mouth
So the weather was too bad to fly in for this:
The helicopter is literally designed to land in water if it needs to
Trumps Europe, a 9 part series coming to your screens soon:
Is this the same Trump that can manage a round of golf in the wet?
Yes, it's also the same Trump who said he'd run, unarmed, into a mass shooting to try to stop it. But it was drizzling so he wasn't allowed out.
At the cemetery he couldn’t visit because of the risk of wetting his semi-dirigible hair, there are two thousand buried U. S. Marine Corps war dead.
Semper Fi eh, Mr President? Semper Fi...
He's over here purely due to the WW1 remberance events and he didn't plan his itinerary around being at the events? Unbelievable. I thought he couldn't stoop any lower than he does on a daily basis but that is indefensible.
I want to write something about the Americans insisting on having guns to the point of having personal armouries and the right to use them to protect their freedom but I'll go on a rant about how no-one has used one to remove the biggest threat to World harmony. I've got too much planned for the next few days to have to deal with Homeland Security knocking at my door.
Don't forget that Colin Kaepernick kneeling for the anthem is "disrespecting our soldiers" but not bothering to turn up to pay your respects to dead soldiers is just fine.
At the cemetery he couldn’t visit because of the risk of wetting his semi-dirigible hair
It might be his bonespurs ache in the damp.
I wonder if he'd have gone if the mid-terms were next rather than last Tuesday. Cynic? Moi?!
Now much as I don’t like Trump, and with the caveat I haven’t looked into it in much depth, if he had to fly in due to logistics and couldn’t due to weather then what’s he to do? Doesn’t matter if Marine one can land in water, there’s vis limits, wind limits etc. Probably should have planned better and prioritised the time for a road move, but I doubt that’s a. Simple or b. His job.
Last I looked, there was this thing called ‘weather forecasting’ so you can arrange in advance for whatever might affect what you need to do...
Might be worth taking look at this page airtragic https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46168995
Especially the comment from Ben Rhodes. "Where there's a will..." and all that.
Probably should have planned better and prioritised the time for a road move, but I doubt that’s a. Simple or b. His job.
Yeah it did seem to be covered under there is always a plan B points made.
I'm sure he will reel off a whole list of people who's fault it is and how he really wanted to but was not allowed.
Maybe we shouldn’t be too surprised at Agent Orange’s attitude, what with his ‘Amerika First’ statements, n’all, and recalling that it took Japan declaring war on Amerika at Pearl Harbour to get them to pay any attention to Europe during WW2: Amerika is as self-centred as a gyroscope, you have to work really hard to find any reference to world events in Amerikan newspapers, there was one page in the LA Times, most of the rest, and it’s a huge paper with about a dozen sections, was concerned with California and LA.
I can’t help thinking the country is like something out of a Philip K Dick novel...
I’m sure he will reel off a whole list of people who’s fault it is and how he really wanted to but was not allowed.
Undoubtedly! And certainly, if the top man gives the direction “this is to happen”, then it will; his programme would then have had a road move time factored in. This isn’t trivial, though; when you’re POTUS, you can’t all just pile into the cars and hit the road! I was involved in a little bit of planning for the G8 summit in Northern Ireland in 2013 and the “no air” plan was a formidable thing!
I dare say the Marine one helicopters have some of the latest avionic upgrades available making them capable of flying in all weather conditions day or night. Trump is just a slime bag with no respect for anyone else.
I dare say the Marine one helicopters have some of the latest avionic upgrades available making them capable of flying in all weather conditions day or night. Trump is just a slime bag with no respect for anyone else.
Nope. No such thing. The pilot has to be able to see to land it, and wind limits are wind limits, there isn’t tech that’ll stop you from falling over! I suspect if anything the opposite is true, there’s probably a lower risk tolerance for flying the president around which could make the limits tighter. Not disagreeing Trump is as you say though!
Amazing how Macron, Merkel, Trudeau and the rest all managed to get where they wanted to go...
This isn’t trivial, though; when you’re POTUS, you can’t all just pile into the cars and hit the road! I was involved in a little bit of planning for the G8 summit in Northern Ireland in 2013 and the “no air” plan was a formidable thing!
The guy in charge of planning for Obama was a little shocked, they all planned to have multiple ways to get anywhere, it's just how they roll.
Did they fly? Genuine question. If so, it certainly smells like a lack of will!
The guy in charge of planning for Obama was a little shocked, they all planned to have multiple ways to get anywhere, it’s just how they roll.
Yes, but my point is, you're talking a half-hour flight vs a two hour drive, for arguments' sake. If he had other stuff planned that was within that extra hour-and-a-half either side, that was a higher priority, then he can't do the road move. That might be poor planning or bad priorities, but not necessarily a call he made. A more impressive POTUS, of course, would have a brief on the plan for the day and might intercede on the lack of a viable road option, anticipating how this looks!
He must have had a tee time booked at 12.30 then
Yeah so at the best they are shit at planning, in the absence of a genuine emergency I can't see of anything else that is coming close in terms of importance.
The buck stops with him. No need to apologise for his inability to pay his respects to those who died.
Just heard his speech from his eventual visit today, it's as if the stage direction was sound as uninterested as possible.
Bloody obvious airtragic it still needs a pilot and the report said rain not high winds. I still reckon the helicopter flying the president will still be equipped with things like FLIR, weather radar, anti ice systems giving them all weather flight similar to PAVE Hawks that Pararescue use.
He's got his masters approval at least
It just seems out of character to me. Of the many, many things you can criticise Trump for, a lack of enthusiasm for the military isn't one of them (except for actual participation in the Vietnam War of course, that was pretty dangerous). He surrounds himself with retired Generals. This isn't something that'll play well with his base, and he's all about playing to his base. I try to make a rule of not criticising figures I don't like for an action I'd accept from a figure I do like. Would I criticise Obama for this, or accept the explanation? Is it just about knocking Trump?
Bloody obvious airtragic it still needs a pilot and the report said rain not high winds. I still reckon the helicopter flying the president will still be equipped with things like FLIR, weather radar, anti ice systems giving them all weather flight similar to PAVE Hawks that Pararescue use.
I'd have thought so too. None of those help if you can't see to land it, though it's hard to imagine just rain degrading the visibility that badly, it would normally have to be mist or fog.
It just seems out of character to me. Of the many, many things you can criticise Trump for, a lack of enthusiasm for the military isn’t one of them (except for actual participation in the Vietnam War of course, that was pretty dangerous). He surrounds himself with retired Generals. This isn’t something that’ll play well with his base, and he’s all about playing to his base. I try to make a rule of not criticising figures I don’t like for an action I’d accept from a figure I do like. Would I criticise Obama for this, or accept the explanation? Is it just about knocking Trump?
You're over thinking it. He didn't want to stand in the cold and wet, and an empathy bypass means that he doesn't understand why he should.