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An official statement from White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said: “Nearly 62 million people voted for President Donald J. Trump in 2016,
Thats all well and good but over 65 million voted for Hillary, however thanks to the electoral college vote they have an orange bawbag who throws his toys out his pram at every opportunity
I cant see the NY Times publishing something that liable to damage them without being really, really confident.
Having seen the documentary on them, they have access, Trump even called them a couple of times. They are having meetings with plenty of sources.
The biggest fear for the Republicans (FFS GOP - Grand Old Party is an outdated term) is that he takes them all down, midterms looming current forecast 75% chance of Democrat control = paralysis for them. Senate is not really winable for the dems at this point, 1 seat majority is possible if it all falls well as they are only voting on the wrong seats for them.
The biggest fear for the Republicans
Thats the gamble isnt it. As you say the seats open for election favours them and the win is that a lot of judges positions are up for grabs including the supreme court (especially after their blocking throughout the latter years of Obama) so if they chose well for youngish judges they will be able to shift the political landscape for several presidencies.
m and the win is that a lot of judges positions are up for grabs including the supreme court
I think your missing how many judges so far, the job is almost there with that one. Last supreme court is the win. It could better to cut losses now but who knows. I've linked before but Project538 are talking a lot about how trumpy some people are going in the races and how some are not. Same with NPR Politics who are looking across the board and trying to be impartial but hey you have to laugh when everyone is flipping on Trump.
I think your missing how many judges so far, the job is almost there with that one
Nah. They are doing well but in lower courts still seats to fill and in the supreme court the average age suggests some upcoming seats for grabs so long as approval stays in their favour. Obviously any democrats will be hanging on but there is a chance to move it from 5-4 to even more in their favour. Especially since some of the 5 still are judges first and hardcore republicans second.
Its messy and if I was a republican candidate I wouldnt want to try and figure out which way to go. Although pro trump would almost certainly get me the republican nomination too much arse licking might knacker me.
Dear Lord the latest from the NY Times is beyond anything Armando Iannucci could come up with. Bonkers
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The question to ask is, what is the author trying to achieve by publishing that now?
Oddly that press release actually sounds like a summary of Trump 🙂
The question to ask is, what is the author trying to achieve by publishing that now?
Well the woodword book being written by somebody with credibility sets up a good spring board for it.
Thats all well and good but over 65 million voted for Hillary
And 122 million didn't vote for either of them.
Historically turn out is pretty poor for the Mid Terms - even fewer people vote in the mid-terms than vote in presidential elections and the last turnout was the lowest for decades at 36%
It would be interesting to see how many Americans, in the context of everything thats going on right now, just don't give a shit.
Yourguitarhero mid term elections is the answer and maybe if it is true has had enough of Trumps bullshit
Historically turn out is pretty poor for the Mid Terms – even fewer people vote in the mid-terms than vote in presidential elections and the last turnout was the lowest for decades at 36%
Which is what makes this interesting, the angriest vote in these ones
I'm still not sure about the NYT story, elaborate plant by Trump so he can decry all MSM as fakenews & distract from the far more credible claims in Woodword book?
Secretly written by Pence to force out Trump ? ☺️
Tbh I don't get the motivation of the leaker, if ihey want to pursue a republican agenda, trump is mostly letting them, why rock the boat? especially before the midterms.
Trump hasn't drained the swamp, he's dammed the creek & the crap just keeps building up.
if ihey want to pursue a republican agenda, trump is mostly letting them, why rock the boat?
You have to look at what Trump has delivered for GOP and what he is likely to be capable of delivering after the midterms.
So far, tax cuts, and soon, the second conservative Supreme Court justice.
Congress is almost certain to go Democrat in the midterms, after which time they can expect nothing else of substance.
It may be convention to allow the incumbent POTUS a clean run at the next presidential election, but I'm sure there are some calculations going on as to whether he's going to even make it to 2020 due to Mueller, in which case he probably needs to get the push sooner to give someone else a realistic chance.
So far, tax cuts, and soon, the second conservative Supreme Court justice.
Don't forget Tariffs which they hate!!
Attacking the incumbent on grounds of amorality implies a certainty in one's own morals.
OMG. Defo Pence.
Attacking the incumbent on grounds of amorality implies a certainty in one’s own morals.
The ads will simply echo Trumps words and how he has failed - Drain the Swamp = More Scandals
From the Woodward book...WTF?
The 'Lodestar' thing either confirms that Pence is very dumb indeed, or that some genius is stitching him up.
EDIT: On reflection, that 'extract' cannot be real! So I'm the dumb one!
There are a lot of "fakes" going round pretending to be from the Woodward book, not sure if they are designed to discredit it or compliment it (?) . That whole paragraph doesn't even read like trump is saying it...
Yes, I've reconsidered that one...
Trouble is, we're at the stage where you almost believe anything is possible. That is too coherent to be Trump!
Don't forget Trump and the NYT have a long history. When he was merely a real estate crook he desperately wanted to be part of New York "society" and the Times ruthlessly mocked him for it, printing endless stories about his gaffs and stupidity at various city functions. This is just the next in a line of hatchet jobs.
It hurts the Donald as it constantly reminds him that no matter what he achieves the NYT just reminds everyone that he's just a dumbass realtor
I like the way he refers to TNYT as ‘failing’. If it is, it’s taking a remarkably long time to fail.
Also his complaint that it’s ‘biased’. Aaah bless. Nedder mind den ikkle wickle Pwesident. Just concentrate on the even-handed Fox News.
I just saw him say his approval rating is going through the roof, so I went and had a look.
53.7 disapprove, 39.9 approve.
FAKE NEWS!!! That does not even add up to 100%
He's defending himself again, stand down everyone, a respected world leader is offering his unwavering faith....
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I assume various serial killers will be along shortly to back him.
It's truly startling how this is playing out
Frank, has the tweet been deleted, Twitter saying that page doesn’t exist?
summary?
I just saw him say his approval rating is going through the roof,
He has been tweeting his approval rating amongst Republicans.
Frank, has the tweet been deleted, Twitter saying that page doesn’t exist?
summary?
Its still in his twitter feed but I'm getting unstuck trying to embed it to forum. Copy and paste is ...
Kim Jong Un of North Korea proclaims “unwavering faith in President Trump.” Thank you to Chairman Kim. We will get it done together!
The Chairman Kim post is quite sinister. What will they get done together? How is that alright?
It will barely be discussed though as it is lost amongt all of the to other White House drivel.
Abnormal is the new normal.
I read the Kim Jong Un bit as
Trump is naive, I know how to play him to get what I want.
🙂
et tu brute or not 🙂 Pence denies being anonymous nytimes column writer 🙂 Ol' Donny will be smouldering
I reckon it's Melania.
Ooof, imagine if it was, or even ivanka. Then again i wouldn't be surprised if it's Trump himself just so he can declare shenanigans/fake news and then proceed to big himself up.
wow!
we're now at the stage where his own VP is having to say hes not secretly plotting behind the POTUS's back
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/06/donald-trump-inauguration-crowd-size-photos-edited
And the original story that just keeps giving, just how many people
Does anyone else get the impression that there are a stack of these stories being released in the wind up to the mid terms to see what happens?
and why wouldn't you. Save it all up and keep dropping the things that make him more irrational.
Bob Woodwards phone call with cadet Bone Spur.
Well he certainly hits his talking points on NATO though bragging about getting no actual commitment 😉
Would be nice for Bob to get a pair 😉
Well he’s got his witch hunt now as they are going to have to find the op-ed to keep him happy.
Phone call with Woodward just shows Trump for what he is.
Convo ststarts that no one told Trump that Woodward wanted to talk to him and goes on about not being told then trump actually mentions at the end that he oh x did mention that.
Doesnt care about lying and being caught.
Doesnt care about lying and being caught.
Or he can't comprehend he is lying. It's just a stream of semi conscious thoughts leaking out. Some of that stuff should have been the internal thoughts for most people or scribbled on the notepad rather than.read out loud.
Seems entirely plausible that somebody would coment that trump on the record to muller would end up with the orange jump suit - I wonder if they will match the skin tone.
It's it me, or does it feel like the trolling, calling out and general keeping pressure up may actually encourage the orange boaby to have the world's finest flounce soon?
#please
Poetic justice would be if he got time in a federal prison in New Mexico. I gather he does not like Mexico...
Or he can’t comprehend he is lying.
This. He is like a desperate salesman just saying what the people directly in front of him want. Trouble is now it is being recorded and other people are listening.
i really think he doesn’t understand the job or that it will impact him, his family and business forever... I foresee bitterness and wild anger before too long.
Will be pretty rough for the 2 secret service agents assigned to him after the presidency if he’s in prison eh?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45435813 - The BBC looked at the linguistic style of the NYT piece...and pretty much concludes its Pence!!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Without being funny, I did think it might be Pence. Too many "It wasn't me Guv, honest" noises, and off course he can tell folks that might want to know (apart from Trump, obvs)
– The BBC looked at the linguistic style of the NYT piece…and pretty much concludes its Pence!!
I did think it might be Pence.
It can't be him, whatever the linguistic tics involved. Say Trump stands down, and Pence assumes the presidency and fights in 2020, the NYT can simply end him by revealing him as someone who not only undermined the previous incumbent, but then barefaced lied about it through his denial.
Far too risky for a cowardly worm like Pence. Will be some deputy-something or other. The only senior figure I had in mind was Dan Coats, but even he's denied it.
It can’t be him, whatever the linguistic tics involved.
There is the mention of adults so I reckon it is TeamHurtmore.
I would assume whoever wrote it would try and do it in a nonstandard way even if the paper didnt add some stuff on top. If it was me I would also be trying to fake someone I dont like style.
it can only be a matter of time until someone at the NYT gets pissed and leaks it to everyone in a bar...
It took 31 years to find out who Deep Throat was...
The thing is that this would be wonderful, being able to take the piss out of the Merkins for electing a racist, sexist cretin in a big racist tantrum/protest vote gone wrong.
But the yanks, stupid as they are, at least had the sense to make the result of their racist tantrum reversible after four years....
Slim Shady?
I've just started watching Blazing Saddles for the first time in ages and every time Mel Brook's governor speaks I think it could be Donald Trump...
The Obama speech today was quite something!
Obama didn’t even try and veil his contempt for trump in the speech, I wonder how the orange bawbag will respond. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the whitehouse at the moment
'Nuff respec to Obama for going "screw convention, this shizzle needs speaking about". Could really do with more of this.
I wonder how the orange bawbag will respond.
He made a joke about sleeping through it. Quote of the day apparently.
He wasn’t sleeping, more likely the White House aids are drugging him so he can’t do anything apart from move his thumbs
Afternoon power naps.
I do like Obama’s speech thou saying that’s not how the checks and balances in their democracy works.
Apperently Mueller agreed to a written deposition but Giuliani is now saying that Trump will not answer any questions on obstruction.
Oddly enough I vaguely remember a certain person on a plane really keen to sit down and talk to mueller a while ago.
Plaid shirt mans kinda intreasting thou removed as he wasn’t cheering enough then held by secret security for 10 mins.
As an aside was watching episode 5 of that Vietnam documentary and Mcain was on it in video that showed him being interviewed in a hospital bed by a French reporter when he was held prisoner after being shot down.
I just can’t get how Trump has got away with his jibes against him and the nonsense .
When Trumps dad was paying off the doctor this bloke was bleeding for his country.
I’ve no doubt The Lump wasn’t lying when he said he found the speech “boring” and that he “went to sleep”.
He does, after all, have the attention span of a chihuahua...
Leader of the Free World, asleep on the job at one in the afternoon. Shouldn't he be doing something productive like working on his swing?
To be fair, most of us slept better when Obama was in charge.
That obama speech is an hour long, and its an hour well spent
He does, after all, have the attention span of a chihuahua…
A spokesman for the global chihuahua community demand an apology for that slur, sir!
Leaders of the Free World, just little boys throwing stones...
He's coming up with more fascinating stats. He tweeted
"The GDP rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years".
This was debunked in a response by Fox News (his allies?):
"Since 1948 there have been 63 quarters with a GDP growth rate higher than avg quarterly unemployment rate".
My thought on both these was "what is the value on comparing those two figures"?
I'm no Trump lover but I that's a fairly reasonable comparison the man in the street can grasp I would have thought.
You want the GDP fig has high as you can and the UR low.
Whether real life Economists puts much weight in comparing the two I couldn't say.... But I know some will.
Just another example of a blatant lie that his base will happily swallow without question, dismissing any actual fact checking by the media as "fake news".
If Trump (and dare I say Brexit) has taught us anything it is that lies stick best when they are shouted from the rooftops.
People will call him on it, but that still means people are talking about it, so the underlying message still gets out even though it is fundamentally untrue.
People will call him on it, but that still means people are talking about it, so the underlying message still gets out even though it is fundamentally untrue.
This, my dad was telling me just the other month how Trump had repealed obamacare, thus was 'getting things done'
It's the same trick pulled during Brexit: It didn't matter that the figure on the bus was a demonstrable lie because even those that were disproving it were still talking about sending large amounts of money to Europe, so the message itself was still very effective.
Thinking about it, this means we may have reached the point where telling a blatant lie is actually a more effective way to get your message out than just telling the truth.
If you tell the truth then your opponents won't mention it.
Yes they will. /montypython