Sorry Elfinsafety, I'm not "seeking affirmation"
The fact that you responded proves you are.
Or are you seriously in such denial of your own need to be accepted within society? Are you?
Sorry, I'm not singling you or SBZ out for personal criticism; just that whenever I hear or read such statements, I just know it's bollocks.
'Oh I don't care what others think of me'
You do. Of course you do. You [i]have[/i] to.
No decent person will think less of you for admitting you're Human.
why does elfin have to come along and be so articulate and stuff. I think it's very true what you say there. I think it's one of those relative things isn't it?
This is gonna be a good thread!..
"So.. dressing up a or acting like someone who wasn't like you would bother you?"
that's an odd thing to say Charlie Mungus. You've got the wrong end of my stick!
Why bother posting your opinions on this thread???
Is that why you post Elfinman ?.......because you care what other people think of you ? LOL ! 😀
I try not to care what people I don't care about think of me.
I think that just about covers it. 😀
is that so ? I'd say rather that I like it when people like me (despite my manifold failings) but I don't mind if people don't. And I don't favour dependency - I think it's better to be self reliant and take pleasure from human interaction where it's positive.
Yeah, that's cool, Simon. And you're right- concentrate on the positive, the nurturing, the rewarding things. Too often I find myself sucked into negative and destructive arguments and conflicts.
But hey, here we are, many of us 'alone' yet sat here discussing this fascinating topic [i]together[/i].
At 20 to one in the morning.
I think that's pretty bloody cool, and I care enough to hope others do too. Wether they do or not, I have no control over, but being active within the discussion is quite rewarding, I think.
Is that why you post Elfinman ?.......because you care what other people thin[b]k[/b] of you?
Why would that be a cause for amusement within you? Is it such an outlandish concept, to confront the notion that people do, even subconsciously, give a damn what others think?
We're not amoeba, you know.
Yes, a bit.
'Oh I don't care what others think of me'
You do. Of course you do. You have to.
with respect old lad, you cannot dictate to others. For a start the autistic and sociopaths don't care, it's part of their disorder. I would care if someone I liked didn't like me but as for the rest, I'd prefer them to be well disposed towards me but otherwise I'm not bothered - but I've reached that position intentionally, as caring about what herds of strangers think of me is clearly pointless, at least until such time as I want them to vote for me...
It's ten to one. 😈
Look at me, look at me, I am shy ... look at me I am shy. 😆
You don't bother about what people think of you if what they think cannot harm you.
But if what they think (say things behind your back or blackmail you) may harm you then you need to deal with them accordingly. In this case you should be concerned as your reputation might be on the line if not careful. Step on them maggots and step on them hard until they ooze juices ... 😈
In this case you should be concerned as your reputation might be on the line if not careful.
no one paints me worse than I do 🙂
Simon; I spose different people have differing levels of emotional response and reaction to different things. Maybe some people are more sociable than others, and all that.
you cannot dictate to others
It wasn't an 'order', just a statement of fact really. That applies to most folk, anyway.
I really am far too tired for all this now though. I've run out of steam.
Good one to ponder though. Nice one Dogbert; good thread. something to think about.
simonfbarnes - Memberno one paints me worse than I do
In that case no harm can come to you so long as you do not put a foot wrong so in that case you can just yawn and fall asleep. 😆
I spose different people have differing levels of emotional response and reaction to different things
yes, in terms of human interactivity, some are incapable, some have had it driven out by circumstances, some chose to ignore it or only use it for manipulative purposes, some are unduly influenced by it and the rest of us enjoy it as a vital component of life 🙂
it's 5 past one and I've got work at 9.30. This is more interesting. very eloquent SFb. I was quite introverted and self conscious as a kid, and, so worried about how I came across and what people thought of me. Desperately caring about other peoples opinions. That's one end of a spectrum, the other end is not giving a toss at all and being Jeremy Clarkson!
"You don't bother about what people think of you if what they think cannot harm you." I dunno..
so long as you do not put a foot wrong
that's my forte 🙂
..the other end is not giving a toss at all and being Jeremy Clarkson!
The Clarkson construct might not care [i]what[/i] people think about him, but he needs people to think something about him. If everyone stopped paying attention he wouldn't exist.
Similarly, some of the most prolific/loudest people on here don't get the payment (coz that's what it is) of my attention.
I thought if I invoked Clarkson we could put it to bed for the night 🙂
"Good one to ponder though. Nice one Dogbert; good thread. something to think about."
you can hear in the punctuation, the winding down...drr..drrr...bed. brain OFF!
Clarkson is [i]fuel[/i] for STW!
Thank *expletive* for this forum, I really couldn't live with myself if it weren't for the great folk on here.
Seriously, I don't give a second thought as to what others think about me, but then I sell cars for a living & the pre-conceptions people have are amazing.
I really don't care as I know I will do my best for people who do right by me, that is all that matters.
you can hear in the punctuation, the winding down...drr..drrr...bed. brain OFF!
Exhausted meself, in't I Kev? Got wheaty beer an' all.
These late night threads are great, but at some point, sleep is vital.
to be continued. bloody humans...
for the OP to have any real meaning, you've got to separate working, engaging with people and the tact etc required etc from the equation. That's the point poor Fred misses in his ever-try-hard way. No man is an island etc.
Beyond that it has to be a question of degree. perhaps a better test is whether you find yourself inhibited by others' supposed thoughts about you? Are you happy to dance like a bad uncle at a wedding on a date for instance? Are you happy with a Deore rear mech even tho everyone prefers xtr?
I bet a ton of folk on here are guilty of the latter.
Are you happy with a Deore rear mech even tho everyone prefers xtr?I bet a ton of folk on here are guilty of the latter.
Well, duhhhh! 🙄
I have a simple philosophy for life, avoid the TV brain washed masses like the plague, they sit there criticising everything and everyone and have to way of controlling it.
Also only give value to peoples opinions if they treat you fairly, if they don't treat you fairly then they haven't earnt the right to an opinion and either get ignored or insulted until they ****S OFF!
yes it does bother me what people think of me.
and i think if people are truthfull, we all do.
As for clothes, trying too look good, worry about what other people think, I'm all too aware of the fact that all I have is the moments.
Staying focused on what I want and having a simple but enjoyable life is all that matters. Am I perfect, not buy a long shot, however if I was there wouldn't be much left for me to do.
Everyone needs to learn to set self aside, don't let your minds draw you into arguments or put you off balance emotionally. Fighting isn't always the best way to win, sometimes letting go and not allowing shit to effect you is the only way to win.
I'm off to find something to do, I just got woken up by a mouse at 5:20 am and I have the choice of go back to sleep or get on with my day. 😀
People who don't care are usually not very nice anyway.
shamefully it does bother me.. to the point where I believe it influences my decisions and often even the things I say..
obviously to a certain extent this is normal to a lot of folk.. but I feel that it can inhibit me sometimes.. which is something that I consider to be quite negative.. as we only live once and I believe we should live life to the full and offer our fullest possible contribution..
EDIT: I've edited this as I've been up since O'christ 00 O'clock with a teething baby and am feeling surreal.. I did ramble on about some other stuff.. but I don't know if it was appropriate to the thread or something I wish to share with the forum at large..
ironic
People who don't care are usually not very nice anyway.
yep that's me
I don't care what strangers think about me and if by some bizare twist of fate you end up as a friend, then you already know what I'm like so have accepted all my little oddities and therefore I don't have to worry about that either 😀
it bothers me if people i don't know (or who don't know me) take an immediate dislike to me, but it wouldn't be unexpected based on past experience, and it's not enough to make me want to reconsider any of my life choices.
i do care what my close friends and family think of me, but (luckily) they like me anyway so that's fine.
I don't care what strangers think about me and if by some bizare twist of fate you end up as a friend, then you already know what I'm like so have accepted all my little oddities and therefore I don't have to worry about that either 🙂
...and yet you posted that on here to show people what YOU are like.
Oddly elliptical.
As hoomans we need to care what others think of us. Otherwise society wouldn't work.
If people think they genuinely don't care about other's opinions then they are either completely self-deluded or they are actual sociopaths.
In the case of the latter, they wouldn't be posting anything on here.
FeeFoo - like I care? 😀
couldn't care less, in fact my girlfreind says i seem to enjoy pissing people off!
I love pissing people off.
And don Simon watch out or I'll bully you 😡
And don Simon watch out or I'll bully you
Let me know when it starts so I can behave appropriately. 😉
Nah couldn't careless. TBH
I used to care what people thought - then when I had kids, at 34, I finally grew up and got over it.
I am who and what I am. I have numerous faults, but trying to be someone I'm not, or do stuff just to fit in with the group, are not among them.
Taking a break from writing a long essay on conformity and obedience.......... and having looked at lots of evidence, most people are bothered about what others may think of them. Even those that deny this are conforming on many levels in order to be accepted.
Probably.
😆
We're too simple a creature not to conform in this way. Our emotions get in the way of a constantly logical thought process.
Couldn't give a flying f__k.
I ride a bright pink bike (so I hear the usual "You must be gaaaaay") and an old Patriot (so I hear the usual "Can't you afford a decent bike?").
xiphon - Member
Couldn't give a flying f__k.I ride a bright pink bike (so I hear the usual "You must be gaaaaay") and an old Patriot (so I hear the usual "Can't you afford a decent bike?").
yea i got my self a nice pink bike, that pisses people off!
Yes.
Only if I fancy them...
How on earth can riding a pink bike pi55 people off ??!
If you like pink, then enjoy riding your pink bikes.
Both bothered about what people think I reckon, even if it is for a negative response, it is the response you need. You're seeking acceptance through efforts to be an individual.