Personally I think aracer's assertion that there is a planet with more helium 3 on it than helium 4 is the real eyebrow raiser.
So to the believers a simple question: Why?
I'd love to believe, it would make the world a more interesting place but balance of probabilities and a rational mind tells me that rejecting more obvious explanations is foolish.
A rational approach to the world is why we can have this debate, typing on laptops rather than scrawling on stone tablets with our own shit
Mr Woppit - Member"Buzzers" said Ford. "Rich kids from other parts of the galaxy with nothing better to do than land on some remote part of a planet, find some poor unsuspecting local and walk up and down in front of them making "beepbeep" noises.
Rather childish, really..."
Teasers. Where have you got Buzzers from, is that the American version?
Teasers. Where have you got Buzzers from, is that the American version?
Well you might think its a long way to the [i]drugstore[/i] but that's peanuts to space
[quote=richmtb ]Personally I think aracer's assertion that there is a planet with more helium 3 on it than helium 4 is the real eyebrow raiser.
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Well that's not exactly what I wrote, HHGTTG tells us that there are an infinite number of worlds, He3 is a stable isotope, some celestial bodies have higher ratio of He3 to He4 than is found on earth and I'm not aware of any physical limitation on the ratio. Certainly possible.
Wow - well squeaky party balloon voice - but now I want a robot lawn mower...
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(with ""LAZORS"")
Maybe they get a bunch of those robot lawnmowers and hack them, then install cad drawings of crop formations and set them going in corn fields. Nobody would be able to see anybody out in the field tramping down the corn, then.
Seems perfectly feasible to me, the logo of circlemakers.org is a CAD drawing, so that proves it.
CountZero - MemberI'm sure these people can help you out there;
http://www.circlemakers.org/perpetrators.html
Hmmm. Not only is that the worst designed website in history, I don't think it can help. See:
I think we agree on the latter but there's confusion as to who the plaintiff is heremrmonkfinger - MemberAre you happy with that statement to exist for eternity on the internet?
Sure you don't want to retract it?
Because, unless I'm mistaken, you do have to have evidence before accusing someone of a crime, within our legal system. And that evidence has to stand up to scrutiny by a court and jury.
Because there's some [i]in[/i] the White House!molgrips - MemberWhy doesn't an alien land on the White House lawn?
In the higher echelons of freemasonry that many presidents and high-ups are in, they worship an alien entity with a weird name.
Look up the Berwyn and Rendelsham Forest cases.Why is it always the middle of Nebraska or somewhere?
That's good, in a way.It would be very very easy for an alien to convince me of its existence.
Ironically, most ET researchers think any kind of alien invasion in our lifetime would be a fake one because of what's in the Project Bluebeam documents.
No, because I would want nvidia to prove it.nealglover - Member
http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/05/nvidia-crop-circle/Is that enough ?
E.g. if I said "Hey, I built the pyramid at Giza."
Did anyome else have a dream they were on STW last night? It was all a bit Vanilla Sky
So which of his books did you read cover to cover to reach that conclusion?
Would you a like a hand moving those goalposts ? They look heavy 🙄
Why on earth would I need to read any of his books cover to cover to know that he has some extreme views ?
Lizard Overlords ?
Moon Matrix ?
Why the hell would I need to finish (or start) any of his books to know those ideas are batshit mental ?
Do please explain.
link please
Wikipedia, not that difficult to find for yourself
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell
Hmmm. Not only is that the worst designed website in history, I don't think it can help. See:
Ah, so it's a government funded misinformation thing is it ?
Righto, that old favourite of the conspiracy loon 🙄
From what I can gather, David Icke writes and talks about what he does because he just wants us and future generations to live in a world where we're free, happy, healthy and can pursue our joy and passions - and not in an abusive, perma-warfare, super-fascist police state like some people in power want it to be.
I don't disagree with his goals (if that's actually what they are)
But that still doesn't mean I believe anything he claims.
We all agree with that. So what's the problem?
So you think that just because I agree with (what you claim is) his ultimate aim, I have to believe all the crazy shit he makes up ?
Your "logic" does not make sense I'm afraid.
Wow! The thread that just keeps on giving!!!
Precisely. It's for a juryy to decide so you saying "I don't want someone saying they saw something as evidence" is facetious.
No it's not, we are simply saying on the basis of what you've offered up as evidence, we don't believe you. You therefore need to either conceed or provide something that will convince us - that's how it works in a court of law.
Because there's some in the White House!
In the higher echelons of freemasonry that many presidents and high-ups are in, they worship an alien entity with a weird name.
I assume that you have verifiable evidence for this, or this a case of 'I've said it, therefore it's true and an undisputable legal fact'?
No, because I would want nvidia to prove it.
E.g. if I said "Hey, I built the pyramid at Giza."
So when you say something we all have to accept it as fact, but when someone else says something it's just rubbish?
Teasers. Where have you got Buzzers from, is that the American version?
Got mutated whilst getting dragged through a memory wormhole into the frontal lobes.
Happens a lot. More since my head had that argument with Leith Hill. 😳
Wow what a brilliant thread
I watched V the other night, I didn't realise it was a documentary at the time maybe I should watch it again.
He3 is a stable isotope, some celestial bodies have higher ratio of He3 to He4 than is found on earth and I'm not aware of any physical limitation on the ratio. Certainly possible.
Definitely possible, but then its also possible that all the oxygen molecules in the room will gather in one corner and I'll suffocate. Possible but really, really unlikely a bit like Aliens in the White House in fact
Having said that though if the universe is infinite (it probably isn't) then there are far more simulated universes than real ones, so it likely that we live in a simulated universe. In which case all bests are off and you can have Aliens in the White House and He3 abundant worlds.
I've been largely staying out of this but I'm loving the spectacular confirmation bias being displayed here. This little stream in particular is great:
[b]6079smithw[/b] posts a link to the 30th December circle in California (a pretty simple-looking geometric design) and says [i]"Quite what entities makes the rest of them is unknown... no way did a bunch of students make that in the night."[/i]
Later [b]6079smithw[/b] posts:
until you have footage of English men going into a field to recreate one of those fancy intricate crop circles seen above in one night then you have no proof and it remains unknown who makes them all.
So [b]piedi di formaggio[/b] posts a video showing footage of a "fancy intricate crop circle" being created at night by a few blokes in 5 hours. They may not have been English though.
Meanwhile [b]6079smithw[/b] excitedly reports that the mysterious Californian circle bears the numbers 192 repeated in Braille (because aliens are apparently blind?). It must be a message.
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Later he restates that all he wants [i]"is to see the really complicated ones replicated by men, at night."[/i] and that the [i]"video pedro di maggio posted is not one of these."[/i] (why's that then? it contains at least 50 circles by my count, how complicated do you want exactly?)
Meanwhile the mysterious and really-quite-uncomplicated one that was [i]definitely[/i] created by alien entities turns out to be [url= http://www.nvidia.com/content/global-new/crop-circle.html ]a viral marketing stunt by NVidia[/url] ahead of the [url= http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/01/05/live-las-vegas/ ]CES announcement of their new 192-core Tegra K1 graphics chipset[/url] which is so [i]"impossibly advanced. It’s practically built by aliens."[/i]
So that's cleared up then?
Nope. He wants nvidia to prove it was really them and until then it was obviously aliens.
Wow!
He is obviously a man of unshakeable faith! 😀
[quote=nealglover ]Your "logic" does not make sense I'm afraid.
I believe that is the correct and concise answer to any post by smith et al and would save us all a lot of trouble. Might make the thread rather more boring though.
To realise the really bizarre stretch of logic here though we need to look at the history of such "circles" being attributed to aliens. I think it is generally accepted that certain atmospheric phenomena can naturally create depressions in crop fields - there is first hand evidence of that upthread. I understand that the alien idea originated from those trying to determine the causes of such depressions and thinking that they were caused by some form of space craft taking off - which isn't such a ridiculous notion. The more perfect and complex shapes came later as a man made thing, probably influenced by this original alien idea and thinking it a laugh to pretend to be aliens. Then the [s]idiots[/s] believers decided to run with the alien idea, working from the original alien deduction (note, not abduction) and expanding from there. Alien spacecraft making irregular depressions makes some kind of sense (I'll even admit to it being a possibility). The thing is though, contrary to smith's assertions the more complex patterns are actually less likely to be made by aliens, not more.
In the higher echelons of freemasonry that many presidents and high-ups are in, they worship an alien entity with a weird name.
Ok, hands up, you got us bang to rights, us higher echelons of freemasonry, that's what we do all right, worship weird alien entities with weird names.
Or, maybe, its just an old boys club for people with spanky jobs, who want somewhere to go when they're off duty. Although I admit that does sound a lot less plausible than the first version.
but the Freemasons ARE aliens.
The Freemansons Hall in London is nothing more than a crudely disguised spaceship!
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its just an old boys club for people with spanky jobs
Exactly! Think about it, have you ever seen a high-ranking freemason that looks like he actually knows how to build a wall, let alone carve a doric column out of marble?
Clearly the masonry thing is a cover 😀
Hmm the NVidia thing did make me laugh when he posted it as it was easily recognizable as a chipset ( well to me anyway! as its what i do for a living). I assumed he was joking but apparently not. Oh and making it that size is far less challenging than making it reality! and a lot cheaper....
easily recognizable as a chipset
Easily recognisable as other things judging by the comments on the UfoSightingsDaily link:
looks to me like a map of a piramide in Egypt
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looks like the thing in Bancroft Crater on Google Moon
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192 explains that it is the red dwarf planet, it may have entered our solar system, and that is who "they" are
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the outter rings is atom particles being tested and the whole image depicts the Large Hallidron Collider
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it correlates to 192L, a low mass red dwarf star approx 3000 light years away in the constellation Sagittarius
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The numbers are an 192 ip Octet that puts the location in Taipei Taiwan. With the image set so that the 5 cubes are at the base of the image sets the frame around the cube depicts an LCD screen viewing 3 frequency bands. The three disks on the outer ring set the time/when. Moon on the rising side of the horizon the Sun in the 8th house and Venus, the 3rd brightest thing in the "night" sky in the 7th house. The setting side of the horizon. 7/12/2014 about around 4:30pm Tai-pei time.-- from http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2014/01/elaborate-crop-circle-spotted-in.html
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Still at least one of them was on the right track..
looks like a blueprint for a microchip of some kind. It would be nice if an Electrical Engineer could look at this and render a comment. A microchip blueprint of sorts. Wonder what it does ?
..though I'm not sure he quite grasps how complex a real micro blueprint is 😀
Exactly! Think about it, have you ever seen a high-ranking freemason that looks like he actually knows how to build a wall, let alone carve a doric column out of marble?
*Exposes left nipple, winks conspiratorially and stands on right leg*
I resemble that remark!
I see the reptilian overlord has joined the thread.
Please spare us o majestic Captain!
Please spare us o majestic Captain!
On The Square, for the sake of the Widow's Sons. 😉
[quote=GrahamS ]..though I'm not sure he quite grasps how complex a real micro blueprint is
Crop computing - it's the very latest thing don't you know.
*Polishes scales*
*Warms up death-ray*
crop subtrates are really limited you need to be investing you time in GaN or maybe even graphene... 😉
CaptainFlashheart - Member
Exactly! Think about it, have you ever seen a high-ranking freemason that looks like he actually knows how to build a wall, let alone carve a doric column out of marble?
*Exposes left nipple, winks conspiratorially and stands on right leg*
I hope you're resigned to your induced expiry on the Wapping steps.
Wait a minute.
Are we saying Nvidia uses alien-designed technology in their graphics cards?
No, they reversed engineered it from all the spacecraft at Area 51 dumbass
Wait a minute.
Are we saying Nvidia uses alien-designed technology in their graphics cards?No. Not alien technology for their graphics cards, that would be far fetched and frankly quite silly.
They did however, (apparently) use an Alien Advertising Agency to make crop circles for them to advertise their new product.
Crop circles like that can't be made by humans you see, waaay too complimacated !!
