[Closed] Doctor Who (may contain spoilers)

kelvin - Member

Oldtalent, to be clear, do you have a problem with gay or black characters in TV programmes?

I don't think anyone would have a problem with non-white, non-heterosexual characters in TV if they were ever there for a valid reason. it's just that this literally never happens and most likely never will, because stories involving minorities are at best boring and more usually just weird and confusing. So clearly it's always just to tick the diversity box. They have this big form for every programme you know...

I can't tell if you're joking Northwind. Hope that you are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Surprised they havent forced a 'trans' companion down our throats yet to get another diversity box ticked.

Well I suppose the master isn't really a companion but technically a trans character?

I realised a couple of days ago when watching the last Xmas special on Netflix how much I had warmed to Capaldi. It's a shame he's going!

I loved The Pilot, lots of insightful relationship type stuff and witty dialogue, all the things that has made Moffats tenure such a joy 🙂

I've just watched it. I enjoyed it, moreso than the Christmas episode that I watched part of then forgot to finish.

I didn't click with Smith, though perhaps some of the stories then were pretty good. I'm still undecided with Capaldi, though he'll probably be gone before I do make up my mind. I think I liked Tenant the most of the new generation.

Thanks Cougar, I was a bit thrown there. Couldn't discern wit from ignorance in that post; my failing.

Well I suppose the master isn't really a companion but technically a trans character?

Ah, well, no one can come out of a discussion about whether the master is now Trans looking good… minefield! And do we get two regenerations of the Master at the same time this series? "The Two Masters?" What will he get up to with himself/herself if so? Could get very confusing.

I'm sad Capaldi's going, he's come closest to Hartnell, 'my' Doctor, although Hartnell could never, ever be said to do 'funny', not even 'mildly amusing', his Doctor was, however, someone who you'd be unwise to turn your back on, and Capaldi definitely has that side to the character, mad, bad, and very dangerous to know.

WHat utter toss. Surprised they havent forced a 'trans' companion down our throats yet to get another diversity box ticked.

kelvin - Member

Thanks Cougar, I was a bit thrown there. Couldn't discern wit from ignorance in that post; my failing.

If in doubt, just assume i'm totally hilarious

I really wanted to lime the Capaldi Who but Jenna Coleman put me off. I recently went back to watch all the Capaldi episodes and I really enjoyed them. I think it just took a few for him to develop his own version of the character. I'll be sad when he goes.

Not sure about Bill. Having a companion more eccentric than the Doctor?

What do we think so far then?

Not too bad so far, enjoyed last night's, but was that a spoiler in the preview for next week?
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Last weeks felt a bit flat, tbh and was expecting a bit more from Frank Cottrell-Boyce's episode two.

I really like Bill, best companion for a while.
Fingers pointlessly crossed.

So it's no longer Tom Baker?

Not too bad so far, enjoyed last night's, but was that a spoiler in the preview for next week?

Just caught up. Had its faults but I thought that episode was ace. As Ninth may have said, David Suchet was [i]fantastic.[/i]

Can't comment on the preview, I leap on the 'stop' button as soon as it goes "next time...", been burned by that once too often.

Suchet was outstanding. His voice breaking up at the end was wonderful.

So, what's in the box?

It plays piano, so not likely to be a dalek. Captain Harkness, perhaps?

I think the Vault may be holding The Master.

Never watch the previews!!

Cougar - Moderator
I think the Vault may be holding The Master.

Yup, reckon so.

Random fact: that's the same house they filmed Blink (Weeping Angels) in.

Yup, reckon so.

I base this notion on nothing other than the fact, who else would play a piano and be spoken to the way The Doctor just did? I don't even remember what happened to him (her) last.

Attempting to reason with Daleks on Skaro, I think.
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Yeah enjoyed last night's episode (Knock Knock - wow didn't realize that was Suchet). The previous week (Thin Ice) was a bit lame.

Suchet was superb - real, raw, genuine emotion in those final scenes from him. Who of the highest order.

In the vault?

It's a Timelord? Maybe, though I feel that's a little predictable. It's someone dark, a genius & a slightly sick sense of humour. Stands to reason it's Missy. Though, I'm hoping for something else....

Jenna Coleman put me off

You must have meant 'got me off'

I think the Vault may be holding The Master.

Pretty much my thoughts too after all what other character would be happy being told a story by the Doctor where lots of young people get killed.

Then again that might be too obvious. I never saw the "He will knock four times" coming.

Surely got to be either Missy or The Master in the vault given it's clearly a big part of the series arc and we know John Simm is coming back at some point.

got to be either Missy or The Master in the vault

I wonder if we might see both, in a wibbly-wobbly Two Doctors regeneration crossover sort of affair. That could be cool (and why else would you bring John Simm back?)

I think Simm is great but was never convinced with him as The Master. Gomez, OTOH, was brilliant.

I thought the Simm/Tennant story arc was a bit too messianic for me, tbh.

I'm sure it's one or both of them in the vault, but it could just be the new Doctor, or several old ones?

BTW, don't Google anything Who related atm.

Just looked up the name of the actor slated to replace PC and it's brought up a whole raft of spoilers.
You really don't want to know.

So, what's in the box?

Osgood's making a comeback

I thought the Simm/Tennant story arc was a bit too messianic for me, tbh.

The doctor who writers just can't write an ending, the 2 potential sci-fi classics in the series reboot, Simm as the master and the one based in the school at the outbreak of the war, just dissolved into utter stupidity, I could have written better endings to them both.

I've just caught up with this weeks.

Quite tense at first, Suchet was doing a good job of quiet menace and oddness.

But then he did his little boy voice and ruined it. A genuine laugh out loud moment. But not in a good way.

So what did we think of tonight's?

Cliched 'running around in corridors' fare, but well executed and genuinely tense I thought.

I liked that one, just realised this series is 12 episodes.

Enjoyed, a slow demise and a loss of confidence is a good direction. Hoping they pull it off properly without too much filler. Blind in 4/12 leaves a bit of interesting time

Loved it.

Whilst the episode left something to be desired the direction the series may be heading down is intriguing. I love a good regeneration!

That was another good'un. Really enjoying this series! 🙂

Well, how good was that?

One of the best episodes I've seen in a long time.
And what a set up....

Loved the 'badass' line, btw.

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Exciting.

Decent set up for the rest of the series, but is it just me becoming increasingly irritated by Moffat's writing? Great ideas? but seems incapable of hanging a narrative together properly.

Lucas stole the show in tonight's episode though. Clearly the part doesn't really stretch him, but his performance is spot on.

SPOILER ALERT. Disappointed it wasn't Simm in the priest's robes on the executioners planet. Sounds like they asked Lucas to do a voice that could have been his?

Tonight's was rather good. Really good, actually.

On another note. Flying Pickets on TOTP on BBC4. Look like nothing so much as a group of Dr Who tribute artists.
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Enjoyed that one, just revisiting S1, at this point until I watch more Tucker/Eccleston are on top for me, would love to have seen Tucker doing the darker side so hopefully that comes back in this one. He has an arc to follow. Good fun watching the bad wolf story fall out

Just caught up. Great episode, this is fast becoming my favourite series of the new bunch. Which is all of them really, as I remember almost nothing of the old stuff (other than Sylvester McCoy. For some miserable reason always Sylvester McCoy.)

Well, what did everyone think of that then?

So much packed in recently I think I need to watch the last couple again.

Odd series, tbh, fun though.
Loved the first half, seemed to go off a little before picking up again.
So many good characters and possible storylines, almost seemed like they were up against time and desperate to shoehorn everything in.

Enjoyed it very much overall, tinged with the realisation that we're dumping the best Dr for years just as he's getting the hang of it.

Looking forward to Christmas.

I'm glad the latest mate has been dumped too; she was irritating.

It's a pity Michelle Gomez has been cast in the series, she's proved she would be brilliant in the title role.