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Or do we have a 'soul'
What is a "soul"?
What is a "soul"?
Something my weak, pathetic, gutless line manager appears to be devoid of.
Do you have one, then? What colour is it?
I don't see evidence of any mechanism that allows anyone to "choose" a destiny. The history of the macro universe emerges deterministically as effect follows cause ad infinitum, with no need for free-will, human spirit, gods or other nonsense.
Or does it?
What colour is a magnetic field?
Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there, bonehead!
Buzz - does God play dice with the universe?
Some events on a sub-atomic scale are entirely random. If you take five radioactive nuclei and wait five minutes, three of them might decay. If you turn back time and do it again, none of them might.
So that effect could carry over to the macroscopic universe. If you started the solar system again, the gas cloud might condense into 6 planets, all too hot or cold for life...
"might be part of some random event in my brain "
What does that then? A quantum event? How does that interact with the electro-chemistry of your thought processing? No one has yet explained how this is feasible.
So if you're convinced we have "free will", is it some unkwown quantum effect, or a supernatural effect?
We can say that the measurable repeatability of cause and effects is such that God doesn't seem to be interfering, at least when we're looking. So this suggests that maybe God doesn't exist because God does not seem necessary for the universe to behave as we've seen it repeatably behave since we started looking.
If you follow the Bible, God interfered a lot back then. Sending the Christ seems a big interference!
This is all very deep. I need cheesecake.
"If you turn back time and do it again, none of them might."
You cannot do this experiment so you cannot know the result, only guess it. In fact I argue that you will get an identical result.
A similar experiment, not involving time travel 😉 does produces a distribution of outcomes. Who knows why quantum level behaviour is like this?
But what I really want to know is: how does quantum-level behaviour affect the macro physical world in such a way that it makes us "decide" our destiny?
molgrips - Member
What colour is a magnetic field?Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there, bonehead!
Really? Gosh, you are clever. Clever enough to take me literally and not recognise the general point behind the metaphor. As usual. As I believe I've said previously about your responses.
I assume, however, that a magnetic field can be detected with instrumentation? You'd think, with all the history of burrowing into the stuff of existence WAY beyond atomic structure, the "soul" would have showed up on the radar by now.
... the monitor edit to the above indicating that your epithet is apparently allowable where mine was not, I'll just restrict myself to letting you imagine what my rejoinder was... Think of a vertical mouth.