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Housemate A provided a TV for the lounge, its was his TV, from his room in our previous house.
Housemate A barely watches any TV.
Housemates B and C watch a moderate ammount of TV, PS3 etc. We all have jobs and better things to do at the weekends.
Housemate B met his new missus in October, she lived in her own house localy and so they probably spent >50% of their time there. He effectively moved out to live with her in May, maybe spending 2-3 nights in the house since then, but still paid rent/share of the bills etc at the house.
Housemate C has a TV in his room and probably watches as much TV up there as he does downstairs.
Last week whilst moving his stuff out housemate B put a DVD on and left a friends kids and the missus infront of the TV while he and his mate moved his stuff out in mates Volvo.
TV stoped working, they (everyone appart from housemate A) were all in the room at the time, no one was anywhere near it, the sound just stoped working and was replaced with what sounds like an earth fault, you can still hear it, but theres a low frequency white noise over it.
The TV is 14 months old. A Samsung 32" LCD, cost arround £330 or so. And housemate A thinks that B and C should bear the cost of replacement as he's hardly watched the thing.
What would you do if you were A, B or C?
I'm not telling you which ones me.
I think your'e A.
A - accept that TVs break - and are often beyond economical repair these days
B - move out & forget about it
C - realise it's his turn to buy a telly
it[s]s was[/s] is his TV
If something i paid for breaks i replace it, but thats just me.
No, it's one of those trick questions like you used to get at school, there is no right answer, just sit there and cross your arms looking smug.
The sensible answer is that why on earth would B and C contribute? The TV was there so they watched, what should they have done bought another of their own to watch? A was happy to leave it there for all to use so don't see the issue.
Few more details, C thinks they should go halves on a repair bill as he still has to live with A, B has essentially told A to go back to the shop he got it from and pusue them as in his oppinion B and C had nothing to do with the TV going wrong and thinks the repair bill will be more than the TV's probably worth.
what's the manufacturer warranty? If 2 years (some are), then go through that route. If not, arm wrestle at dawn for it
I think A stands for A....le,
and personallyi would blame D, who sneakily set a time delay device in the tv, just so Band C could get the blame for A, tv not working.
Nobody's fault.
A bears the cost him/herself.
A put the TV in "public" area so what does he expects?
If A wants to put the blame to others then s/he should not put the TV in the public area in the first place.
😯
A put TV in living room, should not expect any payment as it was his/her choice to share it.
Spent £500 on my 32" just over two years ago, last month it started tripping the RCD every time you turn it on. Life's a bitch and stuff breaks 🙁
A to pay. B and C to give a contribution if they are decent chaps
one for the moral amongst you
Should be no lack of them on here! 😉
what's the manufacturer warranty? If 2 years (some are), then go through that route
Almost certainly will be under warranty, and even if it isn't, then pretty sure EU regs mean that you should be covered anyway (I think electronic things are covered up to 2 years, something to do with reasonable life or somesuch?)
So A should get in touch with whomever he/she bought it from (if he's the original purchaser!) Failing that, get in touch with the manufacturer...
Pretty much what ziggy said. If B or C or someone connected with them had actually broken it that would be different, but if it just stopped working properly of it's own accord then it's just one of those things. I could see how A might reasonably think it's C's turn to provide a TV for common use, but I don't see that anyone really owes A anything.
If A hardly watches TV, and C mainly watches TV in the bedroom, why bother to replace it. Oh and it should be covered under warranty.
Once A put TV in lounge he accepts its for communal use. B and C accept this and use it even on a limited basis. Surely if any communal item breaks the repair bill should be split by A,B and C.
Well if A hardly watched the telly why should he buy a new one, however if a new telly is bought and A has not contributed then he would have no claim over tv
Who pays for the TV licence? if 'A', then he should not have to pay for the repairs/replacement
if B or C then I think he [A] should
Leeeeegally....
Unless there was any form of contract of use entered into by the various parties when the TV was placed in the communal area, then B and C aren't liable for a penny. If A gave them permission to use the TV at any time, then tough titty. Shit, as they say in Paraguay and various other places on Earth, Happens.
Mooooorallly....
TV died of 'natural causes'. No-one did anything deliberate or otherwise, to bring about it's demise. Yet another example of how shittily built stuff is these days, sadly. Flatmate A should have got household insurance, if they haven't already.
CASE DISMISSED.
[i]Next case M'lud, the defendant is accused of Crimes Against Humanity, following being caught riding a Fixie.
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[b]GUILTY! THE DEFENDANT SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM HERE TO A PLACE OF EXECUTION WHERE HE WILL BE HUNG BY THE NECK UNTIL HE BE DEAD!!!!!!
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[i]But M'Lud...[/i]
[b]CONTEMPT OF COURT! 5 YEARS HARD LABOUR![/b]
Ahhhh......
It's A's TV, down to him in my opinion.
Who pays for the TV licence? if 'A', then he should not have to pay for the repairs/replacement
if B or C then I think he [A] should
Don't see why it makes a difference who pays the licence. What if it's shared by all three?
the defendant is accused of Crimes Against Humanity, following being caught riding a Fixie.
so what did he do after he was caught that was so terrible?
Oh don't start I'm too tired.
I think I'll have a little lie down. It's hard work, sending people down all the time.
if its only sound, can you not run sound through some pc speakers, that is unless you use the tuner which it wont work for, i have sky and dvd player connected like that.
Has nobody considered Hosuemate E?
Hosuemates E pays no rent and watches telly when everybody isn't there, he also likes to take the telly to bits and saves 'spare' screws in a jar.
He also does things to your mouth when your asleep.
The TV belongs to A and he put it in a shared room presumably to be used by all. It's still his TV and he should get it fixed if he wants to keep it/use it.
If it can't be fixed/replaced under warranty then a bit of cash from B and C each would be the nice thing to do.
Housemate F returns home to find jam in the mute button on the remote
GUILTY! THE DEFENDANT SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM HERE TO A PLACE OF EXECUTION WHERE HE WILL BE HUNG BY THE NECK UNTIL HE BE DEAD!!!!!!
Hanged 😉
Any reasonable person would expect a TV to last longer than 14 months so you've got a very strong case under sale of goods act to get the retailer to either fix or replace (their choice) the telly.
A to pay.
Lol at the legal advice.
Personally I think the kid that was watching the dvd ls liable, case closed, dock there pocket money and send to young offenders
Chuck some orange juice on it and claim on the contents insurance .....
B shares the new lady with A as compensation and with C so he brings his telly down to stick in the shared living room
Lol at the legal advice.
You like that one innit? 😀
Bullshit like that works when other parties have no clue as to what the Law actually is...
If it just broke then accept it.
Next time buy one from John Lewis and get a 5 year warranty.
the kids broke it
tough shit A
radio rentals where are you now?
Up to A to decide if he wants to replace or chase up warranties. He chose to offer it for sharing. I'd be taking it back or poking around inside.
If A, B and C want a new shared tele then they could all chip in for a cheap 2nd hand one.
If housemate A watches barely any Tv then its probably no great loss to him and therefore not worth him replacing it. If its his TV and he chose to keep it in the communal area then thats his choice.
That said, Its probably the decent thing for B + C to chip in.
Just Do (without) It
How many months use?
IMO no one guaranteed the TV when they watched it. It'd have gone at somepoint anyway.
However if A had provided/loaned a microwave to the house everyone should contribute.
Why? I don't know why.
Either you all agree to pay an equal share to buy a TV, or you don't and don't get one. Simples.
Either you all agree to pay an equal share to buy a TV, or you don't and don't get one. Simples.
Isn't more a question of who is responsible for replacing A's broken TV, irrespective of whether it will end up being for communal use?
I'd definitely be trying to see if the original retailer would cover it under warranty anyway irrespective of who owns/watches TV. If A hardly uses TV then don't bother getting another. If B and/or C want one they should buy one.
If I was A and couldn't get the repair done under warranty I'd probably get it repaired (if economical to do so) and maybe just mention the cost to B & C and say that I would be grateful if the others would contribute toward the cost.
In case anyones still hanging on for a thriling conclusion I'm B.
I've proposed I 'buy' the broken TV for £135, hosuemate C chips in £60, we buy a replacement off ebay for £195 (plenty to chose from), I buy an AVreciever for my new house and everyone is at least on speeking terms if a little unhappy with the whole sorry mess.
I hate house prices, lets face it when 3 people earning ~£30k each can't afford to live independantly there's something wrong!
simple, as a group go out and get very drunk. then come home, try to "fix" T.V, give up, throw it out fo bedroom window until it explodes. cheer.
Who was holding the remote control when it broke!
psychle is right. Take it back to the shop. Even if the warranty is out, EU regs state 2 years, the reason we do not have 2 years is because we have the 'reasonable' expectation category and that is more than 2 years. Check with CAB. If the shop refuses to fix (which is very unlikely) go see CAB