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[Closed] Difference between Saudi Arabia and ISIS? Absolutely nothing.

wwaswas · 2015-11-20T11:16:45Z

This has made me so angry. How is what's happening here any different to what Jihadi John or whoever are doing. Religious 'Police' trying to suppress anyone who questions their methods or rules. I don't often get pissed off about stuff to get that cold anger but the injustice of this action by a state that the UK holds close to it for political reasons is so unacceptable, so patently unjust and designed to suppress any questioning of religious doctrine and state power. And yet Cameron (and Labour before) are courting Saudi like they're some sort of role model for the Middle East. Well fuck you Saudi Arabia. [url[i]A Palestinian poet and leading member of Saudi Arabia’s nascent contemporary art scene has been sentenced to death for renouncing Islam. A Saudi court on Tuesday ordered the execution of Ashraf Fayadh, who has curated art shows in Jeddah and at the Venice Biennale. The poet, who said he did not have legal representation, was given 30 days to appeal against the ruling. ... The religious police first detained Fayadh in August 2013 after receiving a complaint that he was cursing against Allah and the prophet Muhammad, insulting Saudi Arabia and distributing a book of his poems that promoted atheism. Fayadh said the complaint arose from a personal dispute with another artist during a discussion about contemporary art in a cafe in Abha. He was released on bail after one day but the police arrested him again on 1 January 2014, confiscating his ID and detaining him at a police station until he was transferred to the local prison 27 days later. According to Fayadh’s friends, when the police failed to prove that his poetry was atheist propaganda, they began berating him for smoking and having long hair. “They accused me [of] atheism and spreading some destructive thoughts into society,” said Fayadh. He added that the book, Instructions Within, published in 2008, was “just about me being [a] Palestinian refugee … about cultural and philosophical issues. But the religious extremists explained it as destructive ideas against God.” [/i]

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jimjam

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That al-Baghdadi wasn't really the leader - he was essentially a figurehead chosen to give ISIS a religious public image, when really the real leaders are former Iraqi secret services/military intelligence who aren't religious fanatics.

The link you posted mentions Bakr met with with al-Zarqawi but doesn't go into any detail. I think we could speculate (or guess wildly) that ISIS spawned from Al Qaeda in Iraq, a handful of other groups and military intelligence you mention.

Posted : 24/11/2015 6:18 pm

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