[Closed] Did i do the right thing?

To defend OP, the guy's asian-ness is relevant because of asian takeaway.

Why?

You're the one doing the stereotyping.

Probably.

enfht - cheers mate 😀

Crushrider, I aint your mate you rascist pig (joke)

ha ha, that got me for a second!

Him being Asian could have a relevance, could not. This kind of thing happens to me occasionally, round here. I've had it off White lads, Black, and Asian.

Ok.

To try and bring a little bit of insight to this...

Many young Asian men tend to hang around in quite large groups. Round here, at least, the reason for this stemmed from the fact that smaller groups and lone bods would often suffer racist attacks from gangs of thugs. So, a sort of defensive thing; safety in numbers. Another, is the 'Gang' thing aspect of 'street culture'.

IME, the most aggressive and antagonistic group, in this area, are the young Asian lads. Mostly, things are fine, but if there is any trouble, guaranteed, there will be loads of them appear, within seconds. I've learned not to get into situations with Asian lads, if there's the threat of loads more round the corner. Call it cowardly, but it doesn't seem to be a part of Asian culture, to have a fair 'one-on-one'. No, you're more likely to get a kicking off a dozen or more.

Also, this is exacerbated by the incredible arrogance displayed by some young Asian men. If there are any females around, they can behave in the most appalling manner. The posturing and arrogance is seen as more of a positive, even desirable quality, it seems, within young Asian culture. The boys act big and tough, and the girls think it's all brave and macho. Everyone else just think they're being dickheads.

Now, you add into this mix, sexual frustration. This is the really worrying aspect of the drive to violence, within so many young men, of all colours. But withing the highly segregated Asian communities, many of the young lads are just not finding a natural outlet for their frustrations, and sexual desires. So, this gets warped, and manifests itself as arrogant and aggressive behaviour. The big, flashy cars thing is part of it (as it is so with other groups, too), as is the flashy clothes, fancy 'phones etc.

So, whilst their counterparts from other cultures are getting some, the young Asians are, on the whole, not. With many of them being obliged to enter into arranged marriages, their only sexual encounters are often with prostitutes (prostitution is rife, in this area, and the vast majority of clients are young Asian men), or girls from other cultures. These are secret and 'illicit' liasons, and are extremely frowned upon, within the Asian community, and therefore kept quiet. So, sex is seen as something 'dirty' and 'wrong', outside of marriage, and living in a society where sexual openness is prevalent, and sexual activity seen as 'normal' and acceptable, these young men, full of raging hormones, are often, quite simply, walking time-bombs. This is a problem that is not addressed, and not even discussed, within the Asian community.

I've dealt with sneering, arrogant little ****s by saying stuff like 'you're a virgin, aren't you (18-20 year old lads don't seem to like this)?' 'You don't even know what a woman looks like, do you?'. They usually have no response other than apoplectic rage.

So, getting back to the OP...

You walked on. You did the right thing. All you need to know, next time, is that the poor little ****er isnt, well, ****ing, and that's why he's all wound up.

Hope this sheds some light on this particular issue.

Why?

Re-read his post.

He said he didn't respond as he feared the guy's friends could be in the takeaway waiting to pounce on him.

Unlikely, I know - but it does make the assailant's race relevant.

He said he didn't respond as he feared the guy's friends could be in the takeaway waiting to pounce on him.

Because gangs of Aisans hide in take-aways? Last time I was in our nearest Asian take away, I didn't see any Asian people in there at all.

Why can't we all just be friends? Did Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder teach us nothing? they celebrated their diversity.

Good point, we made Rudeboy.

Maybe the all need to beat one out before going out? Just an idea like.

Rudeboy, very interesting - the only long post ive read in ages

hora - Member

Hang on, he might have been a Bollywood Actor looking for a dance-off with someone? [8)]

ROTFPMSL

OH and yes you did the right thing. I used to get this in night clubs all the time because I was bigger than you average teenager. Just used to walk away till one night this guy pushed the wrong button and got slammed into a fruit machine taking it, him and me over with the force. No one was injured but a still spent the rest of the night in a cell for drunk and disorderly.

Wouldn't want to do that again 😯

If you've had to think about it, you've done the right thing.
People who are in a position to handle things physically, don't think about it, they just wade in.

You're OK today, the other guy will probably still be a pr1ck. Don't worry about it.

Hurray! someone else found my comment funny (I was laughing at my own joke) 😳

I used to live in a very highly populated asian area and I would say that 80% ish of the asian men (not chinese but indian, packistanies, bangladesh etc) act in this manner. They think they are yardy "black" (ie afro carabean/american) gangsters and act in a arrogant and aggresive manner.

Before any of the "PC" brigade gets on my case I have "asian", black, German,Spanish, Italian,Polish,Chinese, disabled and lesbian friends. I am just stating what I have observed. Oh and if i have spelt owt wrong or my grammer is not rite, DO ONE 😀

Personally I'd have told him to **** off regardless of the colour of his skin.

Shreck you did the right thing by walking away. I know on occasions like this most people feel like retaliating but all it will get you is grief especially if you deck them proper , the police won't be interested in the fact that they pushed or hit you first unlees you have a witness who will swear you acted in self defence.
I was knocked of my bike recently by some drunk teenage idiot intentionally stepping out in front of me, first thing I do is get up go over and push him in the chest a few times with some verbal insults, I really did want to hit him but after realising he was only young I decided
1) if I did that then i would be labled a child beater (even though he was bigger than me)
2) probably end up in the cells when his mates called the cops.
3) look stupid when my wife & her friend caught us up on thier bikes.
He went off with his mates laughing and hurling threats, I went away still fuming but with the knowledge I did not go down to his childish level.

Forget it ever happened and don't feel your pride has been hurt it takes more guts to walk away than to fight.

Ps. Rudeboy that does ring true. My girlfriend has had alot of comments made about her nationality/race by groups of asian lads. I once took humbradge with this and it almost turned very nasty. White lads tend to think it, whereas sucky sucky, me love you longtime and hey chinese girl me like to....tend to be verbalised (and postured) I found. This of course is O/T to the OP's thread though.

jon1973
Did Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder teach us nothing?

What? The Frog Chorus and Sir Duke?

Rudeboy, interesting and refreshingly candid opinions from someone who straddles the racial divide. Perhaps now you'll respond to my comments on last week's thread.

Now, you add into this mix, sexual frustration.....

Sounds like the OP would have been in more danger of receiving a beat off as opposed to a beat down now.

LOL! I got all serious, trying to help bring some understanding to this issue, then read Hora's 'Bollywood Dance Off' post, and pissed meself! Brilliant!

Hora, you are a proper bastard! (Meant in a friendly and affectionate way, of course!)

If only some of these lads could channel their energies in this manner:

[url= http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKdvrkv1S4 ]Check dem skilz![/url]

Anyway, It's a sad day when I can't walk around the streets wearing my white pride t-shirt because of asians shoving me.

RudeBoy I dont know whats funnier, the video or the messages left underneath. IMO what an utter load of sh*t. (Does that make me a biggot?)

get over it you lot.
i liked wwaswas's response, but i would never have occurred to me at the time. even if you run away it's better than being bleeding on the floor whichever way you look at it.

Not being a p.c. superhero at all. Genuinely interested as to why there's a relevance to the guy being asian at all in the context of what's been said.

Whoever wrote "bombers" in the tags is being a bit stereotypical.

Richard Reid was of mixed british/jamaican heritage if I remember rightly.

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chakaping - Member

Whoever wrote "bombers" in the tags is being a bit stereotypical.

Richard Reid was of mixed british/jamaican heritage if I remember rightly.
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I am assuming your new?

Check dem skilz!

That looks fun to be honest! I went to my mates engagement party and the Iman said 'time for a short prayer'......sheesh he went on for about 20mins!

just realised the 'bombers' comment on this thread can be misread if your new!!

Does that make me a biggot?

Not at all. Not part of your culture, is it (I'm assuming!), so not something you can personally relate to. I think it's awful, too, but it's a part of some Asian weddings, that sort of thing. Bit like 'drunken dad dancing' at a Western, Christian wedding. S'all right though- people enjoying themselves. Good to see people happy, I reckon.

Hora- bet the food was good though,eh?

So that fact the OP called him a lad - does that make him sexist as well?

But yes, did the write thing. I think most people would much rather you were asking this question alive and unharmed, rather than you're family asking the question "why did he have to die?" or the like....

I was only being sarcastic, but I do think it's laughably sh*t all the same. BTW I'm a honky...oh pants I've done it again

er, just out of interest whats a honky? or should i not ask? 😯

MrCrushrider - Member

er, just out of interest whats a honky? or should i not ask? [8O]

A caucasian person.

There are less idiots in the countryside, apart from singlespeeders of course

See, that is proper racist!

Mods!

He also mentioned the lad was in his 20s, why wasn't this picked up on as was the race mentioned?

ah right, thought so - i just thought id check!

ta

from a journalistic point of view, his description of an Asian lad just adds detail to the story, as does him specifying the location.

He could have just said "I was being, and something happened", would that have been easier?

Your own perception of what he intended to mean reveals more about you than it does him in my opinion.

Pook, good point - well made

Whoever wrote "bombers" in the tags is being a bit stereotypical.

**** me Pook thats far too much insite for STW readers! Good point though...

Rudeboy the food was stunning. It was very Bollywood when the bride to be came in, glamour, cameras flashing (over-flashing to create a Popstar entrance effect). I was the only Gora in the place!

Pook - Not at all. I agree anyone who shoulder barges someone deliberately is a plonker. I'd also agree it's not wise to rise to the provocation, so hat's off to the recipient of the provocation - you did a good thing I think.

I kinda thought that the guy's colour is entirely irrelevant other than he's a plonker for doing what he did.

Subsequently I've learned from this thread that many asians have gangsta culture fixations, carry knives, will attack mob handed, are virgins, etc.

All useful background info in case I ever meet one of these asian types in a similar situation.

Has nobody mentioned shreck should've gone and learned how to type proper English before posting?

Anyway, similar thing happened to me a little while back, bloke bumped me with his shoulder when I was walking along with MrsDezb. I turned and looked at him and he looked like the local drunk. He was giving it all the "come on"... I pissed myself laughing and carried on the way I was going.

Thing is, only YOU know if you've done the right thing, cos only you are in that situation at that time. There is absolutely no point in posting the question on here. (Especially if you can't write proper)
Even if you think afterwards, I should've done this, or that, or said this, it doesn't matter, cos you react how you react and the moment's gone.

It wasnt a shoulder barge it was a hand out push in the shoulder.i mentioned his race just as part of the story nothing to do with been racist.

You did the right thing, I reckon.

As for the whole race thing, just because it was mentioned the guy was asian.....what a load of toot.

From the sounds of it, what happened to you is the kind of thing that happened to me on a weekly basis where I grew up in Wembley. Groups of asian blokes stopping you passing in the high street - occasionally a group of black kids would do the same. It was always groups of blokes showing off to their mates - and I never had a white person or group do it to me....does that make me racist for saying that?
I agree with rudeboys comment about the showing off to girls/mates thing. I had numerous run-ins with asian blokes at uni who thought they were being big and clever in front of their mates, with the safety net of numbers to protect them. One guy tried to trip me up in a club while I was carrying 3 pints. I managed to save the beer (yay!) and turned round to see who had done it. This bloke started squaring up to me laughing at what he had done, until he realised his mates hadn't found it as funny and were walking off - that was it.....apologies all round and 'yeah, safe man.....' all that crap.

The older I get, the more I realise it's safer to leave these morons to it. One day they'll do it to someone who will absolutely massacre them.